Author Topic: SpaceX FH : USSF-52 (X-37B OTV-7) : KSC LC-39A : 28/29 December 2023 01:07 UTC  (Read 192785 times)

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[...] Also, no gray band on the second stage, so no extended mission for the second stage.

Does the absence of a gray band rule out a launch to GTO?
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[...] Also, no gray band on the second stage, so no extended mission for the second stage.
Does the absence of a gray band rule out a launch to GTO?
GTO, I think not.

GSO, probably?  The apogee burn + inclination reduction, might be done by the spacecraft + service module?

HEO?  May not need an apogee burn at all.

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Given the launch groundtrack I still don't know why the talk of GTO, it's very obviously not going to any GTO (unless you define GTO as any highly elliptical orbit at any orbital inclination, in which case you probably a very wide definition of what a GTO is...)

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A second possibly related Navigational Warning has appeared for what is likely the 2nd stage disposal.
The shape and location does indicate a dogleg to a high inclination. #USSF52 #OTV7 #X37B
Will analyse further later today.
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The X-37B launch is set for Dec 10, 2023 (Sunday) at 8:14 pm ET.  10 minute launch window.

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Mission to GEO, after all.
Or a NOSS/Molniya HEO.
Well, well.

As Kosh says: "And so it begins."
its not geo! its GSO! geo is 0 degree inclination

No, GSO is 0 degree inclination.  Any other inclination is not "stationary"

gso is geosyncrinous ourbit not geostationary orbit! geo (geostationary orbit) is zero degrees GSO is not

GSO is Geostationary orbit. GEO is Geosynchronous Earth orbit.

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This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.

Quote from: NGA
071019Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 846/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   110001Z TO 111615Z DEC, ALTERNATE
   0001Z TO 1615Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   51-04N 152-41W, 53-27N 141-07W,
   41-40N 136-32W, 38-43N 146-53W 
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171715Z DEC 23.//

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Mission to GEO, after all.
Or a NOSS/Molniya HEO.
Well, well.

As Kosh says: "And so it begins."
its not geo! its GSO! geo is 0 degree inclination

No, GSO is 0 degree inclination.  Any other inclination is not "stationary"

gso is geosyncrinous ourbit not geostationary orbit! geo (geostationary orbit) is zero degrees GSO is not

GSO is Geostationary orbit. GEO is Geosynchronous Earth orbit.
its the opposite GSO  is Geosynchronous Earth orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit
GEO is Geostationary orbit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit


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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.

If the Space Debris notice is for this mission, then the orbital inclination will have changed from around 52.5° at orbital insertion, to around 78.8° at second stage re-entry.

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https://twitter.com/starfleettours/status/1732954757843525940

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🚀 FALCON HEAVY LAUNCH VIEWING CHARTER LATEST UPDATE: Marine and launch weather forecasts are both unfavorable for Sunday’s evening launch. The Space Force predicts a 90% chance of precipitation, 60% probability of lightning, and the possibility of severe storms during the afternoon and evening hours.

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🌊 Additionally, winds could gust up to 35 knots (≈40 mi/hr, ≈65 km/h) with waves reaching four to five feet high. Due to these conditions, a launch is unlikely as scheduled. It could also be unsafe to be out on the water.
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Falcon Heavy is rolling out of the hangar to LC-39A (SpaceflightNow view)
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Falcon Heavy is rolling out to 39A, while a former Shuttle MLP (Mobile Launch Platform) is being taken for a spin.

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This NGA Space Debris notice referenced a few posts above does not appear to me to be related to this launch, but I could be wrong.

Quote from: NGA
071019Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 846/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   110001Z TO 111615Z DEC, ALTERNATE
   0001Z TO 1615Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   51-04N 152-41W, 53-27N 141-07W,
   41-40N 136-32W, 38-43N 146-53W 
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171715Z DEC 23.//

A cancel-and-replace NGA notice with a smaller time window within the original window and a smaller hazard area within the original area.

Quote from: NGA
081805Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 854/23(16,17,19).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   111253Z TO 111354Z DEC, ALTERNATE
   1252Z TO 1354Z DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   51-34.00N 141-57.00W, 49-51.00N 150-42.00W,
   40-55.00N 146-02.00W, 42-38.00N 138-36.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 846/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 171454Z DEC 23.

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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.

Quote from: NGA
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
   DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
      29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
      28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
   B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
      30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
   C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
      38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
      37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.

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Here's Boeing's OTV-7 patch. Pretty bland. Like Boeing's OTV-6 patch.
« Last Edit: 12/09/2023 04:35 am by SpaceCadet1983 »

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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.

Quote from: NGA
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
   DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
      29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
      28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
   B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
      30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
   C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
      38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
      37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.

Curious, why is this update not listed on the NGA website ?
https://msi.nga.mil/queryResults?publications/broadcast-warn?navArea=4&msgNumber=1420&msgYear=2023&output=html
« Last Edit: 12/09/2023 12:05 pm by Jester »

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FH being raised last night

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Issued a little more than a half-hour later than the one I just posted above (which was delayed because I was away from the computer for a while) is this cancel-and-replace Rocket Launching notice, which has a smaller time window reflective of the ten-minute launch window announced by the SSC.

Quote from: NGA
081842Z DEC 23
NAVAREA IV 1420/23(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   110114Z TO 110155Z DEC, ALTERNATE 0113Z TO 0155Z
   DAILY 12 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.16N 080-37.80W, 29-12.00N 079-57.00W,
      29-10.00N 079-55.00W, 28-36.00N 080-15.00W,
      28-29.00N 080-24.00W, 28-27.59N 080-31.55W,
      28-27.94N 080-31.75W.
   B. 30-30.00N 078-35.00W, 30-58.00N 078-09.00W,
      30-52.00N 077-58.00W, 30-24.00N 078-23.00W.
   C. 36-07.00N 071-37.00W, 38-06.00N 069-34.00W,
      38-17.00N 068-32.00W, 38-13.00N 068-27.00W,
      37-32.00N 068-50.00W, 35-58.00N 071-28.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1414/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170255Z DEC 23.

Curious, why is this update not listed on the NGA website ?
https://msi.nga.mil/queryResults?publications/broadcast-warn?navArea=4&msgNumber=1420&msgYear=2023&output=html

The website always runs somewhat behind. It looks like NAVAREA IV on the website only has through 1414/23.

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