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Up to now, we've had had people ask for viewing locations for each CCSFS/KSC launch, but since a lot of the info is the same each time, we're going to start a general viewing thread for viewing of CCSFS/KSC launches.

Viewing locations for starters: Rocket Launch Viewing Guide for Cape Canaveral
If you are looking for VAFB launch viewing info please consult: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
If you are looking for Boca Chica, TX launch viewing info please consult: SpaceX Super Heavy/Starship - Boca Chica, TX - Launch Viewing
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I had the chance to get out to the Saturn V viewing area for the CRS-13 launch and had a great time with the large screen showing the SPACEX stream and the expert live commentary at the site before the stream started.

Something the article linked above does not cover well is the trick to see  the full landing from the Saturn V viewing area.

Section "C" gave me a great view of the landing zone between the large buildings around the VAB and was not blocked out by the trees that block the view in that direction if you are in a different section of the bleachers.

I got very lucky with the early launch getting on the first bus out of the Visitors center at around 915  and picking the right spot to sit in the bleachers.

It was exciting to see the launch live for sure. The ~10 second delay in the stream meant that the sonic booms matched up perfectly with the first stage landing on the stream.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #2 on: 01/25/2018 12:16 pm »
Apologies in advance if this doesn't belong here...

KSC Visitor Complex just opened Falcon Heavy launch tickets for annual pass holders. Closet viewing will be 6.25 km from the Apollo/Sat V Center.  10% discount. Not available online, you'll need to call (855) 433-4210.

Good luck.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #3 on: 01/25/2018 02:35 pm »
Just got my Feel the Heat tickets. Took about 20 calls and hangups on hold, and 40min wait. Don't give up!

$187 for "Feel the Heat" tickets. Unclear if I had to be an annual pass holder, so you might be able to save that $100.

Best Luck.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #4 on: 01/25/2018 02:59 pm »
Now available online, too.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #5 on: 01/29/2018 01:00 am »
Has anyone watched a launch from the Victory Casino ship? $28 to go out for 5 hours and get a meal. From what I've read they go out 3 miles and there are pictures from the ship that look like a pretty good view. Even if it is a little further out then some of the other spots, you should be able to see the rocket from pad to pad unobstructed.

Thoughts?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #6 on: 01/29/2018 02:40 pm »
What is the public causeway Elon references? The NASA causeway apparently won’t be open, and we still have not heard about Playalinda, have we? I got my ticket for the Saturn V. CEnter viewing but have friends down there who want to know where to watch from outside the gates...

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #7 on: 01/29/2018 02:57 pm »
What is the public causeway Elon references? The NASA causeway apparently won’t be open, and we still have not heard about Playalinda, have we? I got my ticket for the Saturn V. CEnter viewing but have friends down there who want to know where to watch from outside the gates...

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #8 on: 01/29/2018 02:58 pm »
Probably Max Brewer bridge.  ~11 miles from the closer end.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #9 on: 02/03/2018 06:04 am »
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Per @NASAKennedy, @news6wkmg is told Canaveral National Seashore and Playalinda Beach will be open to the public for Tuesday's 1:30pm scheduled maiden launch of #SpaceX #FalconHeavy rocket.

https://twitter.com/news6james/status/959525795088818176

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #10 on: 02/03/2018 03:33 pm »
A nice episode on launch viewing at the Cape by everyday astronaut:

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #11 on: 02/06/2018 08:49 pm »
My backyard was perfect, Port St. John. :) :)

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« Reply #12 on: 02/07/2018 01:04 am »
 

You will have to zoom in to see both cores with their landing burn.
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« Reply #13 on: 02/09/2018 04:12 pm »
Cellphone video of the FH Demo takeoff from Playalinda.  Looked great through my binoculars.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #14 on: 02/16/2018 07:25 pm »
Given the time of the Hispat launch on Sunday 25th feb early am,
what will be open or available? Suggestions? Are the parks even open?
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #15 on: 02/16/2018 07:40 pm »
Given the time of the Hispat launch on Sunday 25th feb early am,
what will be open or available? Suggestions? Are the parks even open?
FL 401 is probably your best bet.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #16 on: 03/03/2018 12:27 pm »
Ill be in the US in June, from the 11th to the 23rd (ish) but I am attending a conference in Texas 11-15. With a little bit of slippage (but not too much) this could work out brilliantly to be the first launch I ever see in person. I am excited about the prospect but I have little hope that it actually works out like that. Does anyone know how far in advance you need to buy flights to get a good price? I have friends in Washington State that I could also visit, but thats almost as far away from the cape as you can go in the US. I sort of need to choose between the two.

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« Reply #17 on: 03/03/2018 01:40 pm »
Ill be in the US in June, from the 11th to the 23rd (ish) but I am attending a conference in Texas 11-15. With a little bit of slippage (but not too much) this could work out brilliantly to be the first launch I ever see in person. I am excited about the prospect but I have little hope that it actually works out like that. Does anyone know how far in advance you need to buy flights to get a good price? I have friends in Washington State that I could also visit, but thats almost as far away from the cape as you can go in the US. I sort of need to choose between the two.

If you have to choose before the beginning of June I'd just go visit your friends.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #18 on: 03/03/2018 02:49 pm »
Does anyone know how far in advance you need to buy flights to get a good price?

It seems to me that fares usually increase once you're within 21 days of departure.  Stay a over Saturday night if you can (that's how the airlines separate price-conscious tourists from freer-spending business people).  I usually start with google.com/flights.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #19 on: 03/03/2018 03:36 pm »
If you're a very frequent traveler, book on miles. With Delta, you can change up to 3 days in advance at no penalty whatever (you may have to pay more miles but at least no change fees) if you are high status.

But I agree with gongora,.. if you go to FL, go with the expectation that you might miss. There are lots of other things to do there. Disney, Universal, LEGOland, KSC, and on and on and on.

Be prepared that FL in June is hot and muggy. Bring sunscreen.

General travel tips are better discussed on non launch specific threads though.   (which is why this series of posts was moved to where it is now)
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« Reply #20 on: 03/04/2018 08:15 pm »
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! Ill be able to mill over them while I wait for my travel form to go through the bureaucratic grinder.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #21 on: 03/06/2018 05:33 am »
So, I just watched Hispasat launch.  We parked along the north side of the 401, across the road from the parking garage.  The roadside is just wide enough to pull off straight, and it's elevated with no trees obstructing vision.  Highly recommended.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #22 on: 03/06/2018 06:16 pm »
Hispasat 30W-6 launch montage partially filmed from a parking lot located near the Aviation Maintenance Science building at Embry-Riddle University in Daytona Beach.

What's neat was that I was able to see the first stage reentry burn from my vantage point about 6 and a half minutes into the flight. The bad news was I didn't get any video or photos of it because I was not expecting to see that reentry burn.

« Last Edit: 03/06/2018 06:19 pm by ZachS09 »
Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #23 on: 03/07/2018 04:38 am »
Hispasat 30W-6 launch montage partially filmed from a parking lot located near the Aviation Maintenance Science building at Embry-Riddle University in Daytona Beach.

What's neat was that I was able to see the first stage reentry burn from my vantage point about 6 and a half minutes into the flight. The bad news was I didn't get any video or photos of it because I was not expecting to see that reentry burn.



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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #24 on: 04/04/2018 10:06 pm »
I went to KSCVC on Monday for the launch.  Traffic was the worst I have ever seen, Easter Break up north, so a lot of tourist.  The last 1.7 miles to park took two hours.  And then I got sick and left for my brothers house 15 miles away.  But it got cloudy there so we watched it on TV.

I am glad I left early.  Traffic leaving was worse, with accidents.  And 4 visitors to the launch were killed in an accident. Very sad to learn of that news.
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« Reply #25 on: 11/22/2018 02:34 am »
Noob question, is it possible to watch a launch outside the gate near the Sands Space History Center?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #26 on: 11/22/2018 03:14 am »
Noob question, is it possible to watch a launch outside the gate near the Sands Space History Center?

Always a good question, answered many times farther down in the thread.  But from personal experience, pretty much anywhere along the north side of 401 is dandy.  You might be able to drive all the way into the area you mention, but the trees are gonna block the early phase of the launch.

I found an area down by the cruise terminal that you could see all the way to LC40.  401 is a little elevated down there, which helps a bunch.  Folks parked perpendicular to the road on the shoulder, ignoring the "No Parking" signage. See my post on the Hispasat launch downthread.  Roughly 8 miles to the pad.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #27 on: 02/15/2019 07:31 pm »
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex Offers
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Packages include launch parties, commemorative gifts, live commentary and more.

CAPE CANAVERAL (February 15, 2019) – KENNEDY SPACE CENTER – Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex is kicking off a new era of space exploration, offering exclusive viewing packages for the upcoming Commercial Crew SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1 (Demo-1) launch. This mission is significant as it will be the first, uncrewed test flight of NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, which will carry men and women into space from American soil for the first time since 2011. At Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, guests will have the opportunity to experience the awe and excitement of these historic launches just a few miles from the launch pad – the closest public viewing.

 “This is the first of many enhanced viewing opportunities to come,” said Therrin Protze, chief operating officer, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. “With crewed launches on the horizon, the interest in space continues to grow and we are poised to offer many more bucket-list experiences to our guests.”

The Demo-1 launch is the first uncrewed test flight of SpaceX’s Crew Dragon spacecraft, which is set to lift off from Kennedy Space Center’s famed launchpad 39A, the same launchpad from which Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong set course for the moon on Apollo 11 in 1969 nearly 50 years ago. The packages are designed to enhance the overall launch viewing experience.

The SpaceX Demo-1 launch experience packages are:

Package: “Feel the Heat”

Location: Apollo/Saturn V Center

Cost:  $195 per person

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Two-day admission to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, plus transportation to Apollo/Saturn V Center viewing location – the closest launch viewing location available to the public. Second day admission must be used within a 90-day period post-launch.Up-close encounters with the Mars Rover Vehicle Navigator®, a futuristic concept vehicle, and a lunar rover just like the ones used by Apollo astronautsPremium catered meal(2) Drink ticketsLanyard and commemorative Demo-1 badgeCommemorative Demo-1 lithographSpaceX luggage tagReusable water bottleDigital photo on the day of the launch with special backgroundJumbotron access and live, expert commentary of launchFull access to the shows and exhibits at the Apollo/Saturn V Center

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Location: Space Shuttle Atlantis® North Lawn viewing

Cost:  $115 per person

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Two-day admission to Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. Second day admission must be used within a 90-day period post-launch.Launch viewing from the Space Shuttle Atlantis North Lawn viewing locationCatered mealSpaceX luggage tagCommemorative Demo-1 lithographJumbotron access and live, expert commentary of launchDigital photo on the day of the launch with special backgroundLaunch party featuring a live DJJunior astronaut activity

Ticket packages are sold for the specific mission (SpaceX Demo-1) and not for a specific date. Packages can be booked via the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex website here. The limited-availability packages will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis.

This is the first of many launches to come. Packages for future launches will be customized to enhance the unique components of each mission.

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« Reply #28 on: 02/21/2019 04:07 pm »
Tonight's launch should be great, with liftoff happening simultaneous with a 95% full moonrise at Cape Canaveral.  I've not seen a night landing from the coast, is any part of the ASDS landing burn visible above the horizon?
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« Reply #29 on: 02/21/2019 06:29 pm »
Entry burn is visible with clear skies, landing no.

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« Reply #30 on: 02/22/2019 04:40 am »
My Nusantara Satu launch montage, comprised of video taken from Embry-Riddle University in Daytona Beach, audio from various SpaceX webcasts, and Orbiter 2016 simulations of the Stage 1 landing and Stage 2's second burn before payload deployment.

Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

Got my notification email yesterday for my DM-1 launch tickets. Headed to Apollo/ Saturn V center to watch.

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« Reply #32 on: 03/02/2019 05:15 pm »
My SpaceX DM-1 launch montage, comprised of video taken from Embry-Riddle University in Daytona Beach, audio from various SpaceX webcasts, and Orbiter 2016 simulations of the Stage 1 landing and Stage 2 deploying the Crew Dragon spacecraft.

Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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« Reply #33 on: 03/22/2019 06:06 pm »
Any input on whether Playalinda will be open for the Falcon Heavy? I assume it will since it was the last time. Any tips on how early to be there with the limited parking?

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« Reply #34 on: 03/23/2019 04:58 pm »
Any input on whether Playalinda will be open for the Falcon Heavy? I assume it will since it was the last time. Any tips on how early to be there with the limited parking?

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CANA (Cape Canaveral Nat'l Seashore) info is HERE. Currently they are only showing their generic launch warning.

Last year's FH launch was confusing. The rangers told us Playalinda was open, then closed, then finally open. The car line into the park (Playalinda entrance) started before 5:00 am EST last year, but we did have an earlier launch then.

As of 2019-03-23, this year's launch is 2019-04-07 @ 6:30 pm - 8:30 pm EST (local). Park closes at 8:00 pm and they generally don't let you in after 7pm. So... could be a problem.

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This will be my second launch viewing attempt.  First one, CRS-16, was delayed due to moldy mouse food.  >:(

In my search for the cheapest flight options and airline policy for changing the flight, this is what I have found for the 3 airlines that had flights from CVG to MCO which fit my schedule.  Higher price tickets and awards tickets likely have different policies.

Delta charges $200/ticket + difference to change flights. (for Main, Comfort or 1st class. No changes on Basic).  This could cost more than just booking new flights.

Frontier will allow changes if you purchase the Works for $80/person/flight.  This could cost more than just booking new flights.

Allegiant offers Trip Flex.  For $50, you can change your entire reservation ONCE up to 1 hour prior to flight.

Hoping this is helpful to some.


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« Reply #36 on: 03/24/2019 03:27 pm »
Southwest into MCO...

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« Reply #38 on: 03/25/2019 11:00 pm »
This will be my second launch viewing attempt.  First one, CRS-16, was delayed due to moldy mouse food.  >:(

In my search for the cheapest flight options and airline policy for changing the flight, this is what I have found for the 3 airlines that had flights from CVG to MCO which fit my schedule.  Higher price tickets and awards tickets likely have different policies.

Delta charges $200/ticket + difference to change flights. (for Main, Comfort or 1st class. No changes on Basic).  This could cost more than just booking new flights.

Frontier will allow changes if you purchase the Works for $80/person/flight.  This could cost more than just booking new flights.

Allegiant offers Trip Flex.  For $50, you can change your entire reservation ONCE up to 1 hour prior to flight.

Hoping this is helpful to some.

Southwest will let you change any time with very few limitations. They have become my go to for finicky business trips because of it.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #39 on: 04/07/2019 01:48 pm »
I won't be at the Fishlips meetup, but I will be watching the launch from Playalinda Beach the next day (assuming no schedule slips).

If any NSF members are headed there, you'll find me in my NSF baseball jersey. Come say hi!!

Keep in mind, Playalinda Beach is as close as the public can get without special tickets, but it is extremely remote. Just a few porta potties, and no cell phone signal!!!

Playalinda is spectacular and one of the prettiest places in Florida. Plus you feel like you are standing next to the rockets.

If you go there. It is worth it, but do give yourself hours to get there for a big launch like this. I plan on arriving there around 2:00pm.
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« Reply #40 on: 04/08/2019 03:31 am »
..., but I will be watching the launch from Playalinda Beach the next day (assuming no schedule slips).

I see that Playalinda officially closes at 8:00 PM.  Do you have any expectations of what they will do if the launch slips late into the window?  I can't see them successfully talking launch fans into leaving on time if a launch is pending.

and no cell phone signal!!!

Is there some way people there can learn of a scrub, or even of changes in T-0?

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« Reply #41 on: 04/08/2019 04:02 am »
..., but I will be watching the launch from Playalinda Beach the next day (assuming no schedule slips).

I see that Playalinda officially closes at 8:00 PM.  Do you have any expectations of what they will do if the launch slips late into the window?  I can't see them successfully talking launch fans into leaving on time if a launch is pending.

and no cell phone signal!!!

Is there some way people there can learn of a scrub, or even of changes in T-0?

The Canaveral National Seashore announced on facebook that they would stay open through the launch window. I'd say it is best to resort to radio for launch news. Several local stations will cover it, 90.7 FM or 1350 AM are good choices.

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« Reply #42 on: 04/09/2019 08:45 pm »
No parking along SR 401 for the Arabsat 6A launch throws a wrench into my plans.  It was a great (free) spot for launch and landing viewing.

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Anyone have a guess as to when the parking lots at Port Canaveral will fill up?  Were they open for the Falcon Heavy test flight?  Trying to make the tough choice between Playalinda Beach (for launch) or somewhere at Port Canaveral (for landing).

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« Reply #43 on: 04/10/2019 02:22 pm »
https://fl511.com/map#camera has several traffic cameras along 528 all the way in to the port. 

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« Reply #44 on: 04/10/2019 03:46 pm »
Me and some colleagues will try to see it from Jetty Pier!

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« Reply #45 on: 04/10/2019 03:59 pm »
No parking along SR 401 for the Arabsat 6A launch throws a wrench into my plans.  It was a great (free) spot for launch and landing viewing.

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Anyone have a guess as to when the parking lots at Port Canaveral will fill up?  Were they open for the Falcon Heavy test flight?  Trying to make the tough choice between Playalinda Beach (for launch) or somewhere at Port Canaveral (for landing).

They have said no parking along rt. 401 since the 1980's. Pull straight in and stay completely off the pavement. Unless they have finally gotten serious about it, you should see several hundred other cars there.
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« Reply #46 on: 04/10/2019 04:03 pm »
No parking along SR 401 for the Arabsat 6A launch throws a wrench into my plans.  It was a great (free) spot for launch and landing viewing.

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https://www.portcanaveral.com/About/Recent-News/SpaceX-Falcon-Heavy-launch-is-currently-scheduled-

Anyone have a guess as to when the parking lots at Port Canaveral will fill up?  Were they open for the Falcon Heavy test flight?  Trying to make the tough choice between Playalinda Beach (for launch) or somewhere at Port Canaveral (for landing).

They have said no parking along rt. 401 since the 1980's. Pull straight in and stay completely off the pavement. Unless they have finally gotten serious about it, you should see several hundred other cars there.

Great way to bring in county money with all of the parking tickets.   :o

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« Reply #47 on: 04/10/2019 07:29 pm »
Highway 401 is actually taped off this time. They are letting people park at the end of 401 in the usual place, plenty of room left as of right now.

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« Reply #48 on: 04/10/2019 07:47 pm »
Playalinda closed. The guard had no explanations for it.
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« Reply #49 on: 04/10/2019 08:05 pm »
Playalinda closed. The guard had no explanations for it.

All day, or recently? I thought it was supposed to close once it reached capacity.

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« Reply #50 on: 04/10/2019 08:09 pm »
Playalinda closed. The guard had no explanations for it.

All day, or recently? I thought it was supposed to close once it reached capacity.

It is nearly empty here. Can't be a capacity issue.

Odd though, because it was open last time!,

Fortunately,  I found succor at an emergency shelter by the bridge.  .
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« Reply #51 on: 04/10/2019 08:16 pm »
Jetty Park parking is full/closed. Was just turned around from there. Looking at parking in lot F or G, then walking to Jetty Park. There is no one (no staff) at those lots to right now.

Since they are charging for parking at the port this time around (that’s new, right?), maybe they are serious about no parking along SR-401.

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« Reply #52 on: 04/10/2019 09:11 pm »
Parking at the end of 401 is about 3/4 full as of right now.  Should be at capacity within half an hour.

The shoulder along 401 itself was taped off this time, so yes they appear serious about keeping people from parking.

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« Reply #53 on: 04/10/2019 09:25 pm »
I opted for parking st the port and walking to Jetty Park. I saw this on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/marekcyzio/status/1115351881503711232

Looks like it wasn’t a bluff.
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« Reply #54 on: 04/10/2019 10:25 pm »
FYI, they aren’t letting any more people into Jetty Park, even on foot. They are redirecting people to the boat ramp.

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« Reply #55 on: 04/10/2019 10:30 pm »
Playalinda closed. The guard had no explanations for it.

Word on the street is that POTUS is here for the launch!

Obviously, I cannot confirm...
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Playalinda closed. The guard had no explanations for it.

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« Reply #57 on: 04/11/2019 12:21 am »
FYI, they aren’t letting any more people into Jetty Park, even on foot. They are redirecting people to the boat ramp.
For future reference, and for those of us not from the area, where it "the boat ramp"?
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« Reply #58 on: 04/11/2019 12:34 am »
These unprecedented closures of all the regular spots is upsetting. I truly hope that Delaware North is not involved in the change. Launch cadence and importance is ticking up to new heights this year and next with crewed launches, booster returns, heavies, New Glenn, and all the other activity coming up. Hopefully the local authorities will find a way to provide more viewing area that is open to the public rather than only closing things off.

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« Reply #59 on: 04/11/2019 04:59 pm »
For future reference, and for those of us not from the area, where it "the boat ramp"?
Google Maps satellite imagery is out of date (I attached a screenshot from Apple Maps), but the boat ramp is located here:
https://goo.gl/maps/yNRrBB2RYR82

It's just West of Jetty Park.  It's not a great spot, since there is a berm on the other side of the inlet that gets in the way of seeing the final moments of landing.

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« Reply #60 on: 04/11/2019 07:54 pm »
These unprecedented closures of all the regular spots is upsetting.

In the case of the 401, I'll counter with "hundreds of cars parked along the area's only exit route is an obvious safety hazard".  No need for tinfoil.

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« Reply #61 on: 04/15/2019 11:02 pm »
These unprecedented closures of all the regular spots is upsetting.

In the case of the 401, I'll counter with "hundreds of cars parked along the area's only exit route is an obvious safety hazard".  No need for tinfoil.

The police always keep everyone well off the road and people have been parking here since Mercury without serious incident. Why the change?

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« Reply #62 on: 04/24/2019 03:21 pm »
These unprecedented closures of all the regular spots is upsetting.

In the case of the 401, I'll counter with "hundreds of cars parked along the area's only exit route is an obvious safety hazard".  No need for tinfoil.

The police always keep everyone well off the road and people have been parking here since Mercury without serious incident. Why the change?

Sad to hear that they have decided now is the time to do this. I am in Miami from the 7th (from the UK) so will be heading up to the Kennedy Space Center for the day and then hanging around in the hope of catching the Falcon 9 SpaceX CRS 18 from SLC-40. Meant to be a midnight launch? This would be my first in person launch!

Where would people recommend if the 401 is closed off?

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« Reply #63 on: 04/24/2019 03:49 pm »
Viewing from 401 is still great, you just need to drive all the way down to the CCAFS gate and park in the designated areas.  There are bleachers and porta-potties, and base staff directing traffic even for night launches.

I don't think anybody would stop you from hiking back west from the parking areas if that's where you want to watch from.  Personally speaking, it was much smoother leaving after the Arabsat scrub as compared to earlier launches when the entire length of 401 was clogged with cars parked next to the street.

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« Reply #64 on: 04/24/2019 03:57 pm »
These unprecedented closures of all the regular spots is upsetting. I truly hope that Delaware North is not involved in the change. Launch cadence and importance is ticking up to new heights this year and next with crewed launches, booster returns, heavies, New Glenn, and all the other activity coming up. Hopefully the local authorities will find a way to provide more viewing area that is open to the public rather than only closing things off.

Has nothing to do with  Delaware North

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« Reply #65 on: 04/24/2019 04:12 pm »
Sad to hear that they have decided now is the time to do this. I am in Miami from the 7th (from the UK) so will be heading up to the Kennedy Space Center for the day and then hanging around in the hope of catching the Falcon 9 SpaceX CRS 18 from SLC-40. Meant to be a midnight launch? This would be my first in person launch!

Where would people recommend if the 401 is closed off?
Depends on it you want to optimize for launch or landing.  Being a close-to-shore drone ship landing, pushes landing viewing to Jetty Park, though it'll still be pretty far out there.  The viewing area by the entrance to CCAFS sounds iffy.  They were allowing the public there for Arabsat 6A, but maybe that's changing (accord to Ben Cooper's site).

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« Reply #66 on: 04/24/2019 04:20 pm »
Sad to hear that they have decided now is the time to do this. I am in Miami from the 7th (from the UK) so will be heading up to the Kennedy Space Center for the day and then hanging around in the hope of catching the Falcon 9 SpaceX CRS 18 from SLC-40. Meant to be a midnight launch? This would be my first in person launch!

Where would people recommend if the 401 is closed off?
Depends on it you want to optimize for launch or landing.  Being a close-to-shore drone ship landing, pushes landing viewing to Jetty Park, though it'll still be pretty far out there.  The viewing area by the entrance to CCAFS sounds iffy.  They were allowing the public there for Arabsat 6A, but maybe that's changing (accord to Ben Cooper's site).

At ~30 km, it won't be so "far out there".  You should be able to see the landing burn all the way down.  If you are on the dock, it should come to rest on the ASDS with about a third showing over the horizon, although viewing through binoculars will depend on conditions like sea spray, thermal layers, and any surface fog. 
And lighting.  We see images of the landed first stages on the ASDSs, but are they well lit at night? 
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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« Reply #67 on: 04/24/2019 04:29 pm »
So access to SR-401 is completely restricted? You can't even park somewhere else and walk to SR-401? Only other option I can think of then would be 528 for an unobscured view of the launch. Might just watch it from Titusville considering it's not coming back to LZ-1.
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« Reply #68 on: 04/24/2019 04:55 pm »
Ben Cooper's page cites the roping off of the 401 shoulder, as discussed above.  It was added to his page on April 3, before Arabsat.  The general public was still allowed to drive to and park near the viewing bleachers.

If I recall correctly, cars were parked in all three areas shown.  Still plenty of access, without the road completely clogged.

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« Reply #69 on: 04/25/2019 08:16 am »
Viewing from 401 is still great, you just need to drive all the way down to the CCAFS gate and park in the designated areas.  There are bleachers and porta-potties, and base staff directing traffic even for night launches.

Thanks for the responses guys. I'll probably head over to the 401 (unless I hear any updates beforehand) nice and early and see what the deal is.

Not overly fussed about the landing, just seeing the launch is a once in a lifetime for me I think.

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« Reply #70 on: 04/26/2019 09:52 pm »
Not overly fussed about the landing, just seeing the launch is a once in a lifetime for me I think.

Falcon Heavy Demo was my first launch.  Don't downplay the landing.  We were able to follow the boosters through binoculars very clearly from entry burn to disappearing over the visitor center just before landing.  It was the highlight of the trip.  I don't think it will be less thrilling with just one booster landing a bit further away.

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« Reply #71 on: 04/29/2019 08:32 pm »
Can we get into Jetty Park at 3:00 AM on Wednesday May 1 to watch the launch and landing? Is there another spot as good as Jetty Park to watch the landing from?

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« Reply #72 on: 05/29/2019 05:15 pm »
I've got tickets to see the Falcon Heavy STP-2 launch from kickstarter (years and years ago now!) -- anyone else interested in meeting up, discussing hotel options, etc?

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« Reply #73 on: 05/30/2019 03:22 am »
I've got tickets to see the Falcon Heavy STP-2 launch from kickstarter (years and years ago now!) -- anyone else interested in meeting up, discussing hotel options, etc?

I should be there, and am interesting in meeting with NSF people.
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« Reply #74 on: 06/02/2019 02:52 pm »
The launch date is still not official and the flight prices have been dropping, so I've been hedging on actually buying the plane tickets.

The center core is expected to land close to shore---when would we expect OCISLY to return to port assuming the launch happens at 11:30pm June 22 as currently expected?  That might be a useful return flight target, so if it launches on time we get to see OCISLY, and if it's delayed we get a couple of days buffer...

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« Reply #75 on: 06/02/2019 06:25 pm »
The center core is expected to land close to shore---when would we expect OCISLY to return to port assuming the launch happens at 11:30pm June 22 as currently expected?

Using SpaceX CRS-17 as a reference, that mission's booster took a little less than 24 hours.

However, the drone ship was 28 kilometers downrange, whereas it'll be 39 kilometers away when the center core touches down. So, there's a chance it'll take a few more than 24 hours (maybe 32).
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« Reply #76 on: 06/02/2019 11:45 pm »
So, early Monday morning, if the launch late Saturday holds.  I might try to get a return flight Monday afternoon-ish.  That ought to cover a 24-hour scrub too.

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« Reply #77 on: 06/07/2019 08:55 am »
So, early Monday morning, if the launch late Saturday holds.  I might try to get a return flight Monday afternoon-ish.  That ought to cover a 24-hour scrub too.

Hi Scott, I saw your post on Kickstarter and came here!
I'm still trying to decide whether I fly over to Orlando and see the launch or just watch it online. Cause I'm a foreign student on a budget because of our messed up economy and the trip will cost me around 1000$. I booked a hotel room just to be safe. Campbell Motel, it was the cheapest one with decent reviews :D.
Flights from LA is like 500$... And there is a possibility of missing the launch! Stressful.

So, waiting for PS's update on tickets and more information.

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« Reply #78 on: 06/07/2019 12:54 pm »
I've got tickets to see the Falcon Heavy STP-2 launch from kickstarter (years and years ago now!) -- anyone else interested in meeting up, discussing hotel options, etc?

I should be there, and am interesting in meeting with NSF people.

I'll spend with my 2 boys 10 days on CC since June 20 - hope this will give us a decent chance to see live FH launch & landing.  :D
Would love to meet any NSF'ers around launch as well.

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« Reply #79 on: 06/07/2019 01:31 pm »
I'm planning to fly down early morning of Fri June 21 and fly back morning Tues June 25.  If all goes well, that should be enough time to attend the plantary society gala Friday night, spend Saturday at KSC with the kids, see the launch Sat night, do other kid stuff Sunday, and watch the ASDS return to port Monday morning.  Too bad Fishlips doesn't open for breakfast.

For folks with a safety margin after the launch I highly recommend a lunch/dinner at Fishlips in Port Canaveral. Great views of the SpaceX Navy, and hopefully of the center core being processed.

There was a rumor there was going to be an F9 first stage mounted for public display outside SpaceX LCC in Port Canaveral.  Does anyone know if that actually happened? (Also rumor of one going to the KSC rocket garden --- I don't think that's happened yet either?)

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« Reply #80 on: 06/07/2019 09:41 pm »
And no sooner than I post than the launch is delayed to Monday evening. Luckily my flight back isn't until Tuesday morning, but that ate up all my margin for scrubs in one go.


https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/1137042334401671168

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« Reply #81 on: 06/08/2019 08:50 am »
FH on the 24, Atlas V on the 27. Worth stretching the trip to see them both?

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« Reply #82 on: 06/14/2019 05:27 pm »
KSC launch viewing tickets are now on sale. Get them quick before they sell out!

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« Reply #83 on: 06/14/2019 11:17 pm »
Well, I got my SaturnV ticket, got my flight. I'm broke but happy :)

May I ask you guys about your prefered hotel/airbnb solutions?

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« Reply #84 on: 06/19/2019 02:25 pm »
Well, I got my SaturnV ticket, got my flight. I'm broke but happy :)

May I ask you guys about your prefered hotel/airbnb solutions?

I stayed with airbnb-lily, in Titusville for a week. It was very nice, clean, cheap and I was quite welcomed. If you are traveling alone, and you dont mind a small room, its for you. I dont think they serve breakfast, which suits me very well because I am not a breakfast person. It was perfect for me and if I go back alone, I will probably stay there again if possible. If you have problems with the rainbow-flag its not for you though.

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« Reply #85 on: 06/19/2019 03:24 pm »
I booked an airbnb as well.  There seem to be lots of options in the Orlando area.

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« Reply #86 on: 06/20/2019 08:47 pm »
I usually stay at the Holiday Inn in Titusville. It's nice, but somewhat pricey.
I'm encouraged by the comments here to try one of the Airbnb options.

Bonus when staying at the Holiday Inn for a Delta IV launches. The guys driving the hydrogen tankers park a bunch of the tankers right out front!

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« Reply #87 on: 06/25/2019 12:36 am »
Anybody watching STP-2 from an airplane tonight? I'm trying it for the first time, autopilot will have me half a mile from the west edge of the restricted airspace, then following down to the southern boundary for the booster landing. I'm wondering if there are many other aircraft doing this at each launch but can't find much evidence on the web...hope it's not bumper to bumper along V3 tonight!

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« Reply #88 on: 06/25/2019 03:01 am »
Anybody watching STP-2 from an airplane tonight? I'm trying it for the first time, autopilot will have me half a mile from the west edge of the restricted airspace, then following down to the southern boundary for the booster landing. I'm wondering if there are many other aircraft doing this at each launch but can't find much evidence on the web...hope it's not bumper to bumper along V3 tonight!

I hope you have a large tank... what time are you taking off? How does the slip factor into your plans?
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« Reply #89 on: 06/25/2019 03:21 am »
Anybody watching STP-2 from an airplane tonight? I'm trying it for the first time, autopilot will have me half a mile from the west edge of the restricted airspace, then following down to the southern boundary for the booster landing. I'm wondering if there are many other aircraft doing this at each launch but can't find much evidence on the web...hope it's not bumper to bumper along V3 tonight!

I hope you have a large tank... what time are you taking off? How does the slip factor into your plans?

Thanks to NSF I got the word in time to relax and stay home til midnight, takeoff now toward 0130.

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« Reply #90 on: 01/01/2020 03:10 pm »
Is anyone going to see the Starlink launch, now scheduled for   Monday 2020-01-06 ~9:20 PM?

Dinner etc. at Fishlips?
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« Reply #91 on: 01/01/2020 07:32 pm »
I wonder if Playalinda Beach will be open for the Inflight Abort Test? Launch at 8:00 AM EST, beach opens at 6:00 AM EST. I can't imagine any hazards from the breakup that could possibly be of concern at that distance.
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« Reply #92 on: 01/02/2020 01:35 pm »
Can anyone tell me if, or where to find out if, Jetty Park will stay open past the standard closing time of 8PM for the Starlink launch?
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« Reply #93 on: 01/02/2020 05:00 pm »
I wonder if Playalinda Beach will be open for the Inflight Abort Test? Launch at 8:00 AM EST, beach opens at 6:00 AM EST. I can't imagine any hazards from the breakup that could possibly be of concern at that distance.

They usually close the access road to Playalinda a few hours before launch though.  While they allow watching from parking area 1 and north, they typically don't allow anyone on the access road between fueling and launch.  They typically don't open early to accommodate this.  So I'm not sure if they will be open, but I am really hoping they will be.  View from there should be spectacular.

Can anyone tell me if, or where to find out if, Jetty Park will stay open past the standard closing time of 8PM for the Starlink launch?

They *usually* do.  Although since there's no booster return, the side of the 528 causeway is at a similar distance but the view is unobstructed.
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« Reply #94 on: 01/02/2020 11:20 pm »
Is anyone going to see the Starlink launch, now scheduled for   Monday 2020-01-06 ~9:20 PM?

Dinner etc. at Fishlips?

I plan on coming over from Orlando. Would be cool to meet up with fellow NSF peeps! Shoot me a message if you want to coordinate IRL.

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« Reply #95 on: 01/06/2020 05:42 pm »
I wonder if Playalinda Beach will be open for the Inflight Abort Test? Launch at 8:00 AM EST, beach opens at 6:00 AM EST. I can't imagine any hazards from the breakup that could possibly be of concern at that distance.
Can anyone help me find out is Playalinda will be open tonight?
If I were to drive there and find it closed, would the next best thing be the Max Brewer parkway bridge?  (I know nothing about that but read it somewhere on NSF, perhaps this thread.)
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« Reply #96 on: 01/06/2020 08:25 pm »
Can anyone help me find out is Playalinda will be open tonight?

No dice, they close at 6.  It's listed on their website, and I called to confirm.

That said, the Max Brewer should be a great place to watch.  Cloud cover is minimal today, so you should be able to see up to the entry burn just above the NE horizon.
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« Reply #97 on: 01/07/2020 12:19 am »
Can anyone help me find out is Playalinda will be open tonight?

No dice, they close at 6.  It's listed on their website, and I called to confirm.

That said, the Max Brewer should be a great place to watch.  Cloud cover is minimal today, so you should be able to see up to the entry burn just above the NE horizon.

I took your advice and am on the causeway at the NE end of the bridge.
The sky is crystal clear. There is little wind although it’s chilly.
Going to be a great show!

edit:It was!
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« Reply #98 on: 01/16/2020 11:20 pm »
Can anyone help me find out is Playalinda will be open tonight?

No dice, they close at 6.  It's listed on their website, and I called to confirm.

That said, the Max Brewer should be a great place to watch.  Cloud cover is minimal today, so you should be able to see up to the entry burn just above the NE horizon.

I took your advice and am on the causeway at the NE end of the bridge.
The sky is crystal clear. There is little wind although it’s chilly.
Going to be a great show!

edit:It was!

That was one of the clearest days I've ever seen a launch. I could follow the upper stage for several minutes even in Orlando.

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« Reply #99 on: 01/17/2020 03:06 pm »
I'm in the area with the family and I really want to watch the IFA launch tomorrow. This would be my first launch, so I want to optimize it as much as possible. Given the announced closures, the only two places that seem to be appropriate are the Max Brewer causeway and Apollo beach (which will be open), north of Playalinda (which won't).  The problem I see with Max Brewer is that LC 39A seems to be due East from it, and the Sun would be very low in the sky, which should make it hard to watch the launch. That's why I'm leaning towards Apollo beach. Is this reasoning correct? Is viewing from Apollo beach a good plan? Is there a better location? Thanks for any advice you can give me.

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« Reply #100 on: 01/17/2020 03:25 pm »
The problem I see with Max Brewer is that LC 39A seems to be due East from it, and the Sun would be very low in the sky, which should make it hard to watch the launch.

True, sunrise is at 7:15.  But we're still fairly close to solstice, so the sun will be in the southern half of the sky.  A due east view might not be so bad, and it should be better the farther south you go.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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« Reply #101 on: 01/21/2020 05:10 pm »
The problem I see with Max Brewer is that LC 39A seems to be due East from it, and the Sun would be very low in the sky, which should make it hard to watch the launch.

True, sunrise is at 7:15.  But we're still fairly close to solstice, so the sun will be in the southern half of the sky.  A due east view might not be so bad, and it should be better the farther south you go.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

Thanks for your advice. It was spot on. I ended up watching it from Kirk Point Riverside Park, a small park in Titusville overlooking the Indian River about 4 miles south of the causeway. The sun was quite a bit south of the launchpad from there. It was an unforgettable experience!

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« Reply #102 on: 03/14/2020 05:36 pm »
Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex to Close Temporarily Due to Threat of COVID-19

Press Release From: Kennedy Space Center Visitor's Center
Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2020

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER – Out of an abundance of extreme caution and in the best interest of our guests and crewmembers, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will temporarily be closed as of March 16, 2020 until further notice. During this closure guests will not be permitted onto visitor complex grounds.

 As always, the health and safety of our employees and guests is the highest priority for Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex. Our goal is also to mitigate the spread of the virus.

When it became evident that the coronavirus disease posed a health concern to the public, Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex upgraded the already comprehensive and extensive availability of hand sanitizer throughout the park. As well, since that time, we have also increased the routine cleaning of frequently touched surfaces in the workplace and at workstations, countertops, doorknobs and ticket counters. 

Leadership will continue to monitor the situation and when it is deemed safe for guests to return, the entire facility will be cleaned and sanitized prior to re-opening. This will include Kennedy Space Center Tour buses, all attractions, eateries and theaters at the main campus and at the Apollo/Saturn V Center. 

Date specific Daily Admission tickets for the period we are closed will be refunded. Unexpired Daily Admission tickets will still be valid for use. Private programs, such as ATX, Overnight Adventures, Special Interest Bus Tours and Dine With An Astronaut programs will be canceled and refunds will automatically be issued for activities scheduled on these days. During this temporary closure, the Reservations Department will also be unavailable. To complete a reservation for a future date, please visit our website at KennedySpaceCenter.com.

To help protect against the spread of the coronavirus (COVID-19) and help ensure guest and employee safety, we have taken and will continue taking actions to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus based on the guidance of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Our management continues to work closely with local, state and federal experts on this topic to ensure that we are up to date on the situation as it evolves.

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« Reply #103 on: 04/18/2020 10:06 pm »
Bringing up the topic now that a date has been announced. Prospects looking grim to really be able to watch the DM-2 launch from any of the prime viewing locations.
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« Reply #104 on: 04/20/2020 09:57 pm »
I'm guessing Titusville and 528 are going to be the only viable options.  I wouldn't be surprised if they closed Max Brewer too.
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« Reply #105 on: 04/22/2020 11:49 pm »
The viewing stands at the end of S.R. 401 were not open today (Starlink 7).  There was a good-sized crowd along the usual causeways, and in the parking lots on the south side of the port.

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« Reply #106 on: 04/23/2020 09:45 pm »
FHP is going to restrict viewing DM-2 from the beaches. With all the good spots for launch viewing shutdown, I think I'm just going to wait for USCV-1 in August.

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« Reply #107 on: 05/23/2020 11:25 am »
May 22, 2020

MEDIA ADVISORY M020-08

Airspace, Road, Bridge and Water Closures for SpaceX Demo-2


Launch Date: May 27, 2020
Launch Vehicle: SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket and SpaceX Crew Dragon
Launch Pad: 39A
Launch Window: 4:33 p.m. EDT, Instantaneous
Targeted Launch Time: 4:33:00 p.m. EDT

NASA KENNEDY SPACE CENTER AREA AVIATION FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS (To Include Drones)

What: Cape Canaveral Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR)

When: Wednesday, May 27 from 12:30 p.m. until no later than 5:30 p.m. EDT.

Where: All general aircraft operations are prohibited within a 40-nautical-mile radius of Launch Pad 39A from the surface to (but not including) 18,000 feet (located on the Melbourne VOR/DME 009-degree radial at 30.6 nautical miles).

Pilots should obtain NOTAM information regarding affected airports.

Aeronautical Chart in Use: Orlando TAC Chart/Orlando Class B Airspace, Enroute L-24 Chart and Jacksonville sectional

Additional airspace restrictions: Within an airspace radius of 40 nautical miles of Pad 39A, a discrete transponder code must be obtained and clearance granted from air traffic control before entering this airspace. Continuous radio communications must be maintained. All VFR aircraft are restricted to 180 knots or less unless a variance is granted by air traffic control. Pilots should obtain NOTAM information to determine the affected airports within this radius before departure.

NOTAM Information: St. Petersburg Flight Service Station
Telephone: 1-800-992-7433
Radio frequencies: 122.5 MHz (Titusville) Transmitting/Receiving
122.1 MHz (Melbourne) Transmitting, 110.0 Receiving

Radio Communications:  FAA Orlando Approach Control
Titusville/Cocoa area: 134.950 MHz
Melbourne area: 132.650 MHz
South Volusia County (Daytona Beach approach): 125.350 MHz
Space Coast Regional Airport control tower:  118.9 MHz, 121.85 MHz ground

PUBLIC ACCESS ROAD CLOSURES:

- The Cape Canaveral National Seashore (Playalinda Beach) will close for launch on Tuesday, May 26, at sunset and will reopen after launch. The Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge will close on Tuesday, May 26, at sunset and will reopen after launch.

- State Road 406 east to State Road 3, and State Road 3 from the Haulover Canal bridge south to County Road 402 leading to Titusville will be open to badged personnel only beginning on Wednesday, May 27, at 6 a.m. until after a successful launch is confirmed.

- State Road 3 from the Gate 2 the Central Industry Accreditation Office Building to State Road 405 (NASA Causeway) via Space Commerce Way will be closed for launch to unauthorized vehicles beginning at 11:30 a.m. on Wednesday, May 27. NASA Causeway between the U.S. Astronaut Hall of Fame and the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex will also close at that time. The roads will reopen after launch.                                                                 

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER AREA BOATING RESTRICTIONS

ATLANTIC OCEAN: Beginning at 6 a.m. on Wednesday, May 27 and continuing through launch, a general exclusion zone will be in effect three miles offshore from the Haulover Canal, on the northern end of Kennedy Space Center, and southward to Port Canaveral. Four hours prior to launch, all ocean-going traffic will be restricted from entering an area measured from nine statute miles north and south of the launch pad and extending 64 nautical miles east into the ocean. An additional three-mile-wide exclusion zone will be extended eastward along the flight path of the space shuttle.

INDIAN RIVER: Restrictions apply from the NASA Causeway north to Haulover Canal and east of the Indian River's main channel.  Restrictions are in effect beginning at 6 a.m. on Wednesday, May 27.                                           

BANANA RIVER:  Security limits begin at the Banana River Barge Canal south of Kennedy which is located immediately above State Road 528 and extends north.  The area includes KARS Park on Merritt Island. This restriction is effective beginning at 6 a.m. on Wednesday, May 27.

All boating restrictions will be lifted one hour after launch.  Boating interests should monitor U.S. Coast Guard Radio transmitting on Marine Channel 16 from Port Canaveral.

Follow along with launch activities and get more information about the mission at: https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew. Learn more about commercial crew and space station activities by following @Commercial_Crew, @space_station, and @ISS_Research on Twitter as well as the Commercial Crew Facebook, ISS Facebook and ISS Instagram accounts.
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« Reply #108 on: 05/23/2020 11:31 am »
May 22, 2020

MEDIA ADVISORY M020-08

Airspace, Road, Bridge and Water Closures for SpaceX Demo-2


Launch Date: May 27, 2020
Launch Vehicle: SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket and SpaceX Crew Dragon
Launch Pad: 39A
Launch Window: 4:33 p.m. EDT, Instantaneous
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What: Cape Canaveral Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR)

When: Wednesday, May 27 from 12:30 p.m. until no later than 5:30 p.m. EDT.

... extending 64 nautical miles east into the ocean. An additional three-mile-wide exclusion zone will be extended eastward along the flight path of the space shuttle.

Freudian slip? Cut and paste from the old days?  ;D
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« Reply #109 on: 05/28/2020 05:27 pm »
KSC Visitor Center reopening today with limitations.

https://www.kennedyspacecenter.com/info/coronavirus

Additional reports that tickets are already sold out for Saturday's launch attempt.

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2020/05/28/kennedy-space-center-visitor-complex-reopens-sold-out-spacex-launch/5261450002/

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« Reply #110 on: 08/26/2020 02:37 am »
I am considering the Kennedy Visitor Center parking and a movie deal for viewing the SAOCOM launch. Would that be a good location for this launch and stage landing?

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« Reply #111 on: 08/26/2020 03:00 am »
I am considering the Kennedy Visitor Center parking and a movie deal for viewing the SAOCOM launch. Would that be a good location for this launch and stage landing?

It's OK, but the pads themselves will be obscured by trees.  You're still 7-9 miles from SLC-40 and LZ-1.

See the first post of this thread for general guidance.
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« Reply #112 on: 11/19/2020 12:15 am »
Someone said there was no viewing allowed on the 401 in the Port for the Crew-1 launch anyone know why?

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« Reply #113 on: 11/19/2020 02:43 am »
The shoulder alongside 401 has been closed during launches for at least a year now.  It was too much of a safety hazard with traffic piling up after a launch or scrub.

That said, there is the public viewing area at the end of 401, just in front of the CCAFS gates.  It is usually manned for launches, but has been closed lately (including Crew-1) due to COVID.  There are some other areas off 401 around the north side of the port that you might be able to pull over and watch, but this land all belongs to the Port Authority and you could be asked to leave at any time.

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« Reply #114 on: 12/18/2020 04:03 pm »
Do any of you happen to know if the visitor parking lot and grandstands/grass area just outside the air force station will be open for this?  The powers that be long ago closed the 401 to parking along the riverside -- but the Air Force started supporting parking for viewing along with local law enforcement just outside their visitor badge center before the gates.  There's nobody you can call or facebook/twitter/forums I can find even mentioning it.

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« Reply #115 on: 12/18/2020 04:12 pm »
Ask in the KSC / CCAFS viewing thread.  Viewing on 401 was just discussed there a couple weeks ago. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=44657.100
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #116 on: 12/18/2020 07:49 pm »
Ask in the KSC / CCAFS viewing thread.  Viewing on 401 was just discussed there a couple weeks ago. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=44657.100
Thanks Chris- thanks for moving my post and sorry for posting in wrong forum. I tried to find a thread like this one first but didn't see it.  Now I know :-)

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #117 on: 12/18/2020 09:07 pm »
It was closed for Crew-1, and I presume nothing has changed in the meantime.  It's probably too late to call now, but Patrick SFB's switchboard should be able to get you to somebody with an answer.  I think the CCSFS gate is one of the options.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #118 on: 12/18/2020 09:19 pm »
The thread title has been updated to reflect CCAFS name change to CCSFS.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #119 on: 01/17/2021 06:18 pm »
Excuse me but I' confused about tomorrow's launch. Will Falcon 9 head southeast or northeast as usual? I need to know whether Playalinda or Jetty Park are better.

Thanks!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #120 on: 01/17/2021 06:31 pm »
Excuse me but I' confused about tomorrow's launch. Will Falcon 9 head southeast or northeast as usual? I need to know whether Playalinda or Jetty Park are better.

Northeast on Monday, South on Thursday.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #121 on: 01/17/2021 06:43 pm »
Excuse me but I' confused about tomorrow's launch. Will Falcon 9 head southeast or northeast as usual? I need to know whether Playalinda or Jetty Park are better.

Thanks!

For an LC-39A launch with no RTLS, Playalinda is always better.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #122 on: 01/17/2021 08:07 pm »
Thank you both! So tomorrow Playalinda, and Thursday Jetty Park.

Do you know where to park if Playalinda is closed? The beach opens at 9, after launch.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #123 on: 01/19/2021 03:10 am »
Thank you both! So tomorrow Playalinda, and Thursday Jetty Park.

Do you know where to park if Playalinda is closed? The beach opens at 9, after launch.

Playalinda Beach hours are 6 am - 6 pm. Should be open by then.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #124 on: 01/28/2021 10:39 pm »
Any reason I need to get to Playalinda super early on Sunday? I know they open at 6 but wasn't sure if I should get there well before to wait. First time 🤷‍♂️

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #125 on: 03/04/2021 11:59 pm »
I live in the northeast US, but I will be down in Florida from March 6 through 10.  It just so happens that there may be a Falcon 9 launch during this window....though I'm seeing conflicting information.

It looks like NET is currently March 7th at 10 @ 10:41 PM Eastern from SLC-40.

I have never seen a live launch before and not sure when my next opportunity might be.   I've been googling, but particularly since this is a night launch, it's hard to come by solid info.  (Parks will be closed, etc.)

Anyone have a suggestion as the best place to watch this launch from?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #126 on: 03/05/2021 12:16 am »
I live in the northeast US, but I will be down in Florida from March 6 through 10.  It just so happens that there may be a Falcon 9 launch during this window....though I'm seeing conflicting information.

It looks like NET is currently March 7th at 10 @ 10:41 PM Eastern from SLC-40.

I have never seen a live launch before and not sure when my next opportunity might be.   I've been googling, but particularly since this is a night launch, it's hard to come by solid info.  (Parks will be closed, etc.)

Anyone have a suggestion as the best place to watch this launch from?

Space View Park in Titusville would be a great spot.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #127 on: 03/05/2021 12:27 am »

Space View Park in Titusville would be a great spot.

Thank you...looks like exactly the kind of spot I'm looking for.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #128 on: 04/27/2021 06:46 pm »
I am flying into Orlando at 9:30pm Wednesday night.  I am staying in Melbourne but will make a diversion to see this.  Where would the best/closest to the launch/safe place be for me to see this launch given I am not familiar with the area?  It will be my first!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #129 on: 04/27/2021 07:15 pm »
I am flying into Orlando at 9:30pm Wednesday night.  I am staying in Melbourne but will make a diversion to see this.  Where would the best/closest to the launch/safe place be for me to see this launch given I am not familiar with the area?  It will be my first!

I watched a night launch from the causeway at the eastern edge of the Max Brewer bridge.
The distance to the pad is about 22 km.
If you pull over pretty quickly after getting off the bridge itself the launch pad will be visible just to the right of the VAB.
Once it launches you can walk across the roadway and follow it as it goes northeast. 
I was able to see the second stage burning for quite a while.

Space View Park suggested above is just south of that bridge on the west (Titusville) side of the intracoastal. 
Someone got good photos of the Crew 2 launch from there.
It's not that much farther away and it would keep you out of the traffic jam coming back across the bridge.

I highly encourage you to give this a shot.  My friend and I really enjoyed it, and thought it well worth the three hours of driving it took us.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #130 on: 04/28/2021 11:50 pm »
For SLC-40 (which tonight's launch is from), the Rt 528 Causeway over the Banana River is the closest, with a clear view of the pad across the water.  It is also on your way to Melbourne (depending on where you are going in Melbourne, it may make more sense to just continue on A1A down the island).
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #131 on: 04/29/2021 12:45 pm »
Much of the first stage burn was visible from inland at Delray Beach FL. Thats about 175 miles / 280 km away. Bearing ~173 degrees from LC-40 IIRC.
It was tiny but neat. Quite reddened by the long, humid path length. Disappeared behind a cloud before MECO.
That’s the second Falcon launch i have seen from down here.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #132 on: 05/07/2021 09:19 pm »
Got the spouse to agree to stay an extra day in Cocoa for Starlink-27. Any suggestions for best viewing?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #133 on: 09/15/2021 09:21 pm »
Anyone viewing the Inspiration4 launch tonight?

I'm vacillating between watching it from the side of A1A or Fishlips, but would love to see some fellow NSF folks.

Update: The park service just posted that Playalinda Beach will be closed for the launch starting at 4pm.

I drove down to see this one. Haven't picked a spot yet. How early does Fishlips fill up?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #134 on: 09/15/2021 11:46 pm »
Didn't see you, and no seats left. I grabbed my camera and set up behind a bridge support. Blue magfest shirt and red beard.

Cell signal is way better than Wallops. :)

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #135 on: 01/11/2022 01:23 pm »
Is Playalinda the best place for the public to see the Transporter3 launch and landing?  If so, will the road  to Playalinda be open or does it close at a certain time?

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« Reply #136 on: 01/11/2022 01:29 pm »
Is Playalinda the best place for the public to see the Transporter3 launch and landing?  If so, will the road  to Playalinda be open or does it close at a certain time?

Playalinda will be one of the best public spots to view the launch, but just okay for landing. I'll be going to A1A for this one.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #137 on: 01/11/2022 01:38 pm »

Playalinda will be one of the best public spots to view the launch, but just okay for landing. I'll be going to A1A for this one.
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Where is A1A?  Is that because it's the best spot for a landing?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #138 on: 01/11/2022 06:56 pm »
Cross post:
Some friends have a place south of Vero Beach, FL. Bright people (psychologist and occupational therapist) but not techies in the least.  I told them about the Jan 6 launch of Starlink 4-5. They watched from their balcony and were fascinated. He said they could see it from shortly after launch through staging. She said they could see through binoculars “all four pieces come apart”.

They saw first stage burn, staging, AND fairing separation!
From the shore
Fairing separation!
(She didnt know what a fairing is.)

So disappointed I couldn’t join them.
Pretty much clouded out farther south.
Only saw the smoke from the first few seconds of flight.

The “best place to watch the Transporter 3 launch” depends on what you want to see.
Playalina for launch
Jetty Park for the RTLS landing
Farther down the beach for staging.
(OneSpeed modeled that staging will be east of N Hutchinson Island at about 78 deg elevation. Transporter 3 will fly much closer to the coast than the Jan 6 launch.)
The rocket will fly pretty much towards the Sun if viewed from the Cape area, possibly too close at some point for safety while using binoculars.
Do not put yourself in a position where you could follow or be searching for the stages and accidentally look at the Sun thru binoculars!

Edit: A1A runs the length of the Florida eastern beach. Without a cross street that designator is not specific.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #139 on: 01/30/2022 08:10 pm »
Another good post about RTLS viewability:

A question for those that have seen a RTLS. Sitting now on the beach about a half mile south of Cocoa Beach pier. I was thinking of going to the grass plot near the SpaceX control building, but from where I'm sitting I see BO's launch site clearly and some structures looking north along the Coast. Should I stay where I'm at or go up to Port Canaveral? Here obviously has a  clear view over the ocean whereas the grass plot does not. Thanks to anyone that offers their opinion.
I live in Cocoa Beach and have seen RTLS from near and far, from Jetty Park, to boat at sea, to Playalinda Beach. Jetty Park is a bit crowded and too close for my taste. By far my fav view of the RTLS is Cherie Down park, just a little to the south of Jetty Park and not "gate controlled".  You can't see the rocket on the pad and won't see it until it gets about T+ 10 seconds. Very few locations feature a view of the top of the rocket. Cherie Down is close enough to give you great sound and expansive view and very direct view of the landing.  Parking is free but pretty limited so if its full, I'd just park somewhere close and walk out there.
Here's a short vid from the beach the last time I went there:

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #140 on: 01/31/2022 01:19 am »
For anybody interested, the launch viewing area on State Road 401 was open for today's CSG-2 attempt.  It was the first time I've seen it open since the Pandemic started.

This is an excellent location, on the north side of Port Canaveral, just outside the CCSFS gate.  Security and traffic direction is provided by base staff.  You have a clear line of sight to the rocket sitting on the pad, and are just as close as Jetty Park for the landings (though it's behind the tree line).

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #141 on: 01/31/2022 01:35 am »
It is a great location. We watched the first falcon heavy launch/landing there.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #142 on: 01/31/2022 10:12 am »
A bit off-topic: usually, how do you organize your visit around the chance of a scrub or delay?

I am planning to travel to Florida to watch a Dragon launch in April, waiting for the readiness review outcome, but don't know how to manage the possibility of delays. Do you know of a statistical model for that, maybe related to the season?

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #143 on: 01/31/2022 12:25 pm »
A bit off-topic: usually, how do you organize your visit around the chance of a scrub or delay?

I am planning to travel to Florida to watch a Dragon launch in April, waiting for the readiness review outcome, but don't know how to manage the possibility of delays. Do you know of a statistical model for that, maybe related to the season?

The best you can do is plan for as many additional days as your schedule and wallet will allow.  There's plenty else to do around the coast and of course Orlando if you end up needing to wait a few days.

April weather will be pretty good, probably the biggest question is how long of a window the ISS has for the crew launch.

It is a great location. We watched the first falcon heavy launch/landing there.

You and I both, and it seems we were in good company!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #144 on: 01/31/2022 03:29 pm »
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April weather will be pretty good, probably the biggest question is how long of a window the ISS has for the crew launch.

Windows for launching to the ISS are 5 minutes at most. IIRC for Falcon they are instantaneous. SpaceX completes fueling just in time to launch as the plane of the orbit passes over the launch site, and they have little ability to hold before either the fuel “warms” excessively or the plane offset becomes too large to make.

The above advice fro leetdan is critical: be prepared to stay. Every time I go to watch, most people leave after the first scrub. You just have to tough it out. It’s worth it.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #145 on: 01/31/2022 04:08 pm »
Windows for launching to the ISS are 5 minutes at most. IIRC for Falcon they are instantaneous. SpaceX completes fueling just in time to launch as the plane of the orbit passes over the launch site, and they have little ability to hold before either the fuel “warms” excessively or the plane offset becomes too large to make.

I was referring to the ISS window for Visiting Vehicles, though I assume a regular crew rotation would have high priority.  Yes, without yaw steering the launch window is instantaneous on any given opportunity.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #146 on: 02/01/2022 09:30 am »
Thanks for the replies regarding my question.

I have been searching online for statistics on delays in launching to the ISS. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything including cargo. It must exist somewhere. Any hint?
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #147 on: 02/03/2022 01:20 am »
SpaceX Falcon 9 CSG-2: The life cycle of a booster from launch to landing

If you listen to the audio you can hear something important for watching a launch live.
Pay attention to the recognizable audio from the SpaceX webcast. It is many seconds behind the events of the launch.
If you are using a webcast to keep up to date about the progression of the launch, ASSUME that there is a large lag.
Don’t watch your phone through the whole countdown.
Look towards the launch site well before T=0
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #148 on: 02/03/2022 01:26 am »
SpaceX Falcon 9 CSG-2: The life cycle of a booster from launch to landing

If you listen to the audio you can hear something important for watching a launch live.
Pay attention to the recognizable audio from the SpaceX webcast. It is many seconds behind the events of the launch.
If you are using a webcast to keep up to date about the progression of the launch, ASSUME that there is a large lag.
Don’t watch your phone through the whole countdown.
Look towards the launch site well before T=0

I followed that protocol the last time I saw a launch in person, although it was an Atlas V and not a Falcon 9. And it was a night launch too.

Having watched other videos of people viewing launches in person, I assumed liftoff would occur when the webcast’s countdown clock read T-1 minute.

Started my camera at T-2 minutes and before I knew it, the engines ignited and the rest was history.
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Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #149 on: 04/07/2022 09:42 pm »
What are my viewing chances of tomorrow's Axiom launch from Tybee Island, Georgia?

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« Reply #150 on: 04/08/2022 04:52 am »
What are my viewing chances of tomorrow's Axiom launch from Tybee Island, Georgia?

Fair
The weather forecast for Tybee is clear, but the Sun may be in your eyes.
See if you can find something to shade you like a stop sign.
Or go out on the Tybee beach pier and stand under the roof.

Tybee Island is ~250 mi/400 km from the Cape
The path should go within ~150 mi/ ~250 km of Tybee
You might be able to see MECO, staging, SECO-1 and fairing deployments to the southeast.
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« Reply #151 on: 04/08/2022 04:54 pm »
I didn't see anything, but I was on North Beach.   

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« Reply #152 on: 04/26/2022 04:31 am »
How early should I get to Parrish Park or Max Brewer Bridge to watch the crew 4 launch?

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« Reply #153 on: 05/14/2022 12:13 pm »
How early should I arrive a Playalinda to see today's Starlink 4-15 launch?

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@Collin Not sure what the ideal arrival time is, I've heard 4 hours for spots on the stairs.  But for a beautiful weekend day with no launch you can wait 30 minutes just to get through the park gate.  Since you posted this 75 minutes ago, if you are still looking for an answer, GO NOW!

PS Bring all supplies you will need, there is nothing out there but beautiful beach. Water, food, snacks, chairs, all up to you.   Convenience stores on US-1 right before the bridge is your last place to buy anything.

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« Reply #155 on: 05/15/2022 12:41 am »
@Collin Not sure what the ideal arrival time is, I've heard 4 hours for spots on the stairs.  But for a beautiful weekend day with no launch you can wait 30 minutes just to get through the park gate.  Since you posted this 75 minutes ago, if you are still looking for an answer, GO NOW!

Just for an up to date info, I crossed the bridge at 3:20pm and spend almost 1hr crawling to the gate!

Today was my first rocket launch view, so as a precaution I called Canaveral National Seashore (phone # from NPS app) at about 1pm and she told me about a possible road closure "a couple of hours before launch" !!
Then I rushed from Sanford to try to get there hoping for misinformation about road closure but what I saw was almost ONE hour to reach the gate, arriving at the first parking lot with 15 min to spare... and no road closure ::)

Amazing experience  :D
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #156 on: 07/01/2022 02:58 pm »
For those of you who live in the area, I'll be in and around Ft Myers and wonder how far I'll have to drive to even see a launch. I don't think the 200+ miles to see it up close and personal is going to work out (this time) but can I get a decent view from someplace a bit south, one of the beaches down there? Any recommendations? Back to lurking. Thanks.

[Edit] I realize I'll need a great pair of binoculars and which direction the rocket is heading is important too but I'm hoping to at least catch a glimpse once the rocket gets high enough...
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« Reply #157 on: 07/01/2022 04:11 pm »
For those of you who live in the area, I'll be in and around Ft Myers and wonder how far I'll have to drive to even see a launch. I don't think the 200+ miles to see it up close and personal is going to work out (this time) but can I get a decent view from someplace a bit south, one of the beaches down there? Any recommendations? Back to lurking. Thanks.

[Edit] I realize I'll need a great pair of binoculars and which direction the rocket is heading is important too but I'm hoping to at least catch a glimpse once the rocket gets high enough...

So I’m currently straight across from you in the town of Jupiter. Typically the piers in the area offer really good vantage points for launches (especially the southern trajectories that basically fly straight overhead), and sometimes if the conditions are right you’re even far enough east of the cape that you can catch the first couple seconds of the F9 entry burn.

Unfortunately the heavy cloud cover these last couple afternoons have made it feel more like I’m trying to catch a launch at VSFB instead…  ::)

If you can ditch the cloud cover, I’ve also frequently watched from family in the orlando and other central parts of the state as well.

Hope that helps!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #158 on: 07/20/2022 02:07 pm »
Ben Cooper doesn't list Playalinda as a viewing site for Starlink 4-25, despite the park opening at 6 AM and usually being open for launches at this hour. Anyone hear if the beach is going to be closed Sunday morning for one reason or another?

Looks like it's been updated now.
« Last Edit: 07/21/2022 02:50 pm by Orbiter »
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #159 on: 07/21/2022 07:22 pm »
Thankyou for all the Information so far! I am visiting Florida at the moment all the way from the Netherlands. Last time (2019) I saw a launch from rt 528. I would love to see a launch from playalinda beach. The videos I saw are amazing! I was hoping someone could tell me at what time I Should arrive at the gates. Were staying in Orlando and I don’t mind getting up early.

It’s for the Starlink launch this Sunday.

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« Reply #160 on: 11/12/2022 10:17 pm »
I have heard that Playalinda Beach was severely damaged by Hurricane Nicole. It may not be open for a while for launches.
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« Reply #161 on: 01/02/2023 11:58 am »
I have heard that Playalinda Beach was severely damaged by Hurricane Nicole. It may not be open for a while for launches.
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #162 on: 05/25/2023 07:35 pm »
Hi there, we are planning to be in Florida from 17.6. to 27.6. for F9 Satria mission and hopefully as a bonus Delta IV Heavy NROL-68 . As we will travel half a round the globe from Europe, do you have some tips and advice where to stay to get best possible view :-) . Thank you a lot!
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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #163 on: 05/25/2023 07:43 pm »
Hi there, we are planning to be in Florida from 17.6. to 27.6. for F9 Satria mission and hopefully as a bonus Delta IV Heavy NROL-68 . As we will travel half a round the globe from Europe, do you some tips and advice where to stay to get best possible view :-) . Thank you a lot!

regarding launch viewing, Ben Cooper's website is a great resource, it's updated very frequently and he lists lots of great places to view launches from
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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« Reply #164 on: 06/02/2023 07:33 pm »
Hi there, we are planning to be in Florida from 17.6. to 27.6. for F9 Satria mission and hopefully as a bonus Delta IV Heavy NROL-68 . As we will travel half a round the globe from Europe, do you have some tips and advice where to stay to get best possible view :-) . Thank you a lot!

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #165 on: 10/15/2023 04:13 am »
Bad news, everybody... The excellent viewing area at the end of SR 401, just outside the CCSFS gates, is being shut down. It's been almost 5 years since they stopped allowing people to park on the shoulder of 401, but these bleachers gave excellent views of vehicles on the pad, and were about the closest the general public could get to the landing zones.

https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3554720/cape-canaveral-space-force-station-shuts-down-south-gate-viewing-area-indefinit/

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #166 on: 10/24/2023 04:30 pm »
Hi All,

Love rocket launches and heading to orlando on the 4th of november.
Never been able to see a launch in person but would be super thrilled to see this in person. fingers crossed this is still an RTSL.

Where would people recomend, ive had a quickly look but havent seen anything that is 100% open and also populated / safe.

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Re: SpaceX CCSFS/KSC (Florida Space Coast) - Launch Viewing
« Reply #167 on: 10/24/2023 11:35 pm »
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Check here and this page on Ben Cooper's website.
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« Reply #168 on: 12/25/2023 04:34 am »
NSF's own photog team provides the latest advice, including mention of sites that don't work anymore:


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