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Offline Jansen

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #40 on: 11/19/2020 07:06 am »
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In compliance with COVID-19 restrictions, the normal public viewing area on Azalea Lane off of Hwy 1 just a half mile south of Vandenberg Air Force Base's main gate will not be open to the public.
= The Hawk's Nest

https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2420144/spacex-to-launch-sentinel-6-satellite-from-vandenberg-afb/
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #41 on: 11/20/2020 09:34 pm »
Re: Ocean Ave viewing - roadblocks will be out at Floradale Ave. per 30th Space Wing's Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/30thSpaceWing/posts/10159599044494897

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We are scheduled to launch the Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich satellite on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from VAFB tomorrow at 9:17 a.m.

For public safety, roadblocks will be set up at the corner of 13th Street and New Mexico, Floradale Ave. and W. Central Ave. and Floradale Ave. and W. Ocean Ave.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #42 on: 11/21/2020 03:37 am »
It looks like the next best option is on Rancho Lompoc Farm Road? I'm assuming they won't be evacuating the prison...

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #43 on: 11/23/2020 08:16 pm »
Report on the viewing from Ocean and Floradale, of the Sentinel-6A launch / landing.  Note that this particular launch was a rarity with nearly perfect viewing (no marine layer fog).

Because of the exquisite weather, viewing the launch from Ocean Ave at the Floradale cross-street was actually an excellent experience. While it was certainly noticeable that we were further away (about 6.7 miles from the pad), it was much better than I expected. I haven't seen a daytime RTLS before, and I was surprised at how well I could see the falling booster after the reentry burn and before the landing burn.

Nonetheless, in the future I hope they will consider putting the roadblock back to the Union Sugar cross-street.  I wonder if someone actually did a 3-sigma safety study to justify this move, or if it was just some overly-cautious bureaucrat deciding this.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #44 on: 11/23/2020 11:40 pm »
Report on the viewing from Ocean and Floradale, of the Sentinel-6A launch / landing.  Note that this particular launch was a rarity with nearly perfect viewing (no marine layer fog).

Because of the exquisite weather, viewing the launch from Ocean Ave at the Floradale cross-street was actually an excellent experience. While it was certainly noticeable that we were further away (about 6.7 miles from the pad), it was much better than I expected. I haven't seen a daytime RTLS before, and I was surprised at how well I could see the falling booster after the reentry burn and before the landing burn.

Nonetheless, in the future I hope they will consider putting the roadblock back to the Union Sugar cross-street.  I wonder if someone actually did a 3-sigma safety study to justify this move, or if it was just some overly-cautious bureaucrat deciding this.

when i talked with the local PD (not CHP), they said that local farmers had complained after the last RTLS that people had stolen a significant number of cabbages from their farms - apparently the wait that time was ~5 hours, whereas ours was more like 2, from the general arrival time of "morning."  so, they said they were asked to push the crowds back to the city limits, even past Bailey, and the CHP tried to do that starting at about 7:30-8am. 

at some point, they gave up.  we moved to a mid point along Bailey before the cops gave up, and it was great viewing, but more congested for the farmers, and further away than i'd have liked.

i told them that they needed to coordinate communication better if they really wanted Ocean clear back to the city limit, because even the base had been communicating just the FL blockade (and was still while they were pushing people back).

i'm not sure i buy the cabbage theft statement.  if anything, i'd be more worried about people urinating or whatever in the fields, and really, none of that is really a problem along Ocean.

sadly, it felt a lot like a know-nothing overly-cautious and newly elected bureaucrat that was throwing his weight around and getting the various PDs involved.  i hope next time they open Ocean back up to ~ the south base entrance gate.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #45 on: 03/01/2021 03:41 am »
So, if you want to see the pad, what is the best spot?  I can sacrifice distance for visibility.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #46 on: 02/02/2022 10:53 pm »
Went to the NROL-87 launch, which was an RTLS launch. Based on this thread, it might have been the first time an RTLS had Ocean Ave opened all the way to 13th St? Either way, parked on the corner of Ocean and Renwick Ave, resulted in a perfect view of launch and landing.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #47 on: 02/07/2022 06:33 pm »
That’s great to hear. I hope to try Ocean Ave next time.

Some had also reported the Hawk’s Nest being closed for recent launches. Well, for NROL-87 it wasn’t quite open but nonetheless hosted a small crowd. At about 11:45 around twenty or so vehicles had pulled over on the shoulder of Hwy 1, where we found the gate locked. Apparently some local police had stopped by earlier but did not possess the proper key.  Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż

After waiting a few minutes more the group finally ducked under the gate and walked the 1/4 mile or so back to the viewing area. A beautiful vantage point for an equally beautiful day. Great viewing, though we had to be careful with binoculars since MECO’s position in the sky came quite close to the sun.

The Falcon’s sound is certainly muted from that far back. What you gain is the ability to see the rocket and TE poking up above the hills, which was perfect for a RTLS flight. And of course, having to crane one’s neck nearly straight up adds such a visceral, body-awareness sense of perspective to the scale of things, something which might otherwise be lost on such a perfectly clear, blue-sky day.

Hawk’s Nest viewing site: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #48 on: 04/15/2022 03:28 am »
I thought that Ocean and Renwick prevented site of the pad but Ocean and Floradale a little to the East did not.  Is that not true? I was considering heading to the F9 launch in the morning.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #49 on: 01/14/2024 04:36 pm »
....bump for a reopening of a closer site to view SpaceX launches.  This has recently been reopened (accessed) for SpaceX non-RTLS launches.  This was my and lots of other space fans' favorite location to set up and view the launch including those from the FireFly launches originating close to the VBSFN airport. Enjoy, and bring a blank and dress warmly, it's breezy and cold at night.

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https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60039.msg2558390#msg2558390

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #50 on: 01/14/2024 08:06 pm »
We've been wondering for Firefly launches if Delta II's Corral Road/Saddle Club viewing site with the concrete bleachers was still available. Don't know why but we're surprised to hear Surf Beach is open. Never was able to watch a Delta II from there as they'd say it was an "overflight" issue. Seeing a vehicle go from SLC-2W while at Surf Beach will be a real treat!
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Vandenberg - Launch Viewing
« Reply #51 on: 01/14/2024 08:25 pm »
We've been wondering for Firefly launches if Delta II's Corral Road/Saddle Club viewing site with the concrete bleachers was still available. Don't know why but we're surprised to hear Surf Beach is open. Never was able to watch a Delta II from there as they'd say it was an "overflight" issue. Seeing a vehicle go from SLC-2W while at Surf Beach will be a real treat!


I was there for several Sunset Polar launches and the Iris launch with other JPL staff on that site.  Yes, overflight is something to behold and the sound.  I think Firefly will mostly fly retro so that spot may be open for that.  Probably if ULA launches, that will be closed, as it has been in the past. VSFB has the ultimate decision to do what they want or is advised by the launch provider to leave the gate open on Ocean Drive to allow access to the rail station.  The station is active and has commuter and Amtrak to serve the Lompoc area. To have an unobstructed view is glorious.
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