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Lockheed Martin Awarded Commercial Atlas Launch Contract for EchoStar XIX Communications Satellite

Denver, Aug. 5, 2015 – Lockheed Martin Commercial Launch Services, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Lockheed Martin Corporation (NYSE: LMT), has been selected by EchoStar Corporation to provide commercial launch services for the EchoStar XIX communications satellite. The satellite is scheduled to launch in late 2016 on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Florida.

EchoStar XIX, also known as JUPITER 2, is a large, multi-spot beam Ka-band satellite that will help meet the growing demand for HughesNet® high-speed satellite internet service in North America. The satellite, built by SSL in Palo Alto, California, is designed to provide service for 15 years or longer.

“This is an important launch to HughesNet® customers and the Atlas V rocket makes it an ideal choice for this launch,” said Steve Skladanek, president of Lockheed Martin Commercial Launch Services. “The Atlas program brings unmatched performance, reliability and schedule assurance for EchoStar and Hughes.”

“We are looking forward to the EchoStar XIX launch with Lockheed Martin Commercial Launch Services and appreciate the vast experience and expertise that they bring to the table as we work toward a mission success in late 2016,” said Michael Dugan, president and CEO of EchoStar Corporation.

Lockheed Martin Commercial Launch Services markets the Atlas V to commercial satellite customers worldwide and also offers Athena launch services for small satellites and multi-payload RideShare missions. The company is responsible for contracts, marketing, sales and mission management for commercial and international government Atlas missions and all Athena missions.

For more information, visit echostar.com or lockheedmartin.com.

About EchoStar Corporation

EchoStar Corporation (NASDAQ: SATS) is a premier global provider of satellite and video delivery solutions. Headquartered in Englewood, Colorado, and conducting business around the globe, EchoStar is a pioneer in secure communications technologies through its EchoStar Satellite Services, EchoStar Technologies Corporation and Hughes Network Systems business segments.

About Lockheed Martin

Headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland, Lockheed Martin is a global security and aerospace company that employs approximately 112,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The Corporation’s net sales for 2014 were $45.6 billion.
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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #1 on: 08/05/2015 02:47 pm »
Was it a contract that was switched from another LSP? It was once marked as being launched by the Ariane 5.....
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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #2 on: 08/05/2015 03:15 pm »
Was it a contract that was switched from another LSP? It was once marked as being launched by the Ariane 5.....

Yes, it was once assigned to an Ariane launch: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/jupiter-2echostar-xix-deal-2016-ariane-5-launch/

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #3 on: 08/05/2015 03:17 pm »
Any info on the Atlas configuration?

Likely a 421 or 431, if the 4m fairing is large enough, otherwise likely a 521 or 531 version.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #4 on: 08/05/2015 03:26 pm »
Any info on the Atlas configuration?

Likely a 421 or 431, if the 4m fairing is large enough, otherwise likely a 521 or 531 version.
Spaceflightnow are reporting a 431 configuration.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #5 on: 08/05/2015 05:08 pm »
It would be very strange for a commercial satellite to require a 5m since that would leave out Proton and Zenith from the equation. And in Atlas, for the same weight, means a more expensive launch.
On a different note, it would seem that ULA is starting to wake up in the commercial market. I would be very worried now that DoD launch cadence is slowing down and ULA has to make up that revenue in the commercial market.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #6 on: 08/05/2015 05:31 pm »
It would be very strange for a commercial satellite to require a 5m since that would leave out Proton and Zenith from the equation. And in Atlas, for the same weight, means a more expensive launch.
On a different note, it would seem that ULA is starting to wake up in the commercial market. I would be very worried now that DoD launch cadence is slowing down and ULA has to make up that revenue in the commercial market.

Both Rainbow-1 and AMC-16 were both launched on 521 versions.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #7 on: 08/05/2015 05:57 pm »
It would be very strange for a commercial satellite to require a 5m since that would leave out Proton and Zenith from the equation. And in Atlas, for the same weight, means a more expensive launch.
On a different note, it would seem that ULA is starting to wake up in the commercial market. I would be very worried now that DoD launch cadence is slowing down and ULA has to make up that revenue in the commercial market.

Both Rainbow-1 and AMC-16 were both launched on 521 versions.

Exactly the kind of ones most likely to make up DoD shortfall:

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Big birds need the same risk reduction. Also, big antenna/power volume. The alternative is Ariane not Proton et al.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #8 on: 08/05/2015 06:34 pm »

Both Rainbow-1 and AMC-16 were both launched on 521 versions.

I can't recall, but those might have been launched with 5-m fairings only to get in some 5-m fairing flights.

I know at one time WGS was also on a 521, the first 2 eventually flew on 421s.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #9 on: 08/06/2015 06:38 am »
Is it some reduction in price or their reliability record that is winning them these commercial payloads?

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #10 on: 08/06/2015 07:24 am »
Most likely it is their availability - F9 and Ariane 5 probably could not meet the target date.

Note very short time - 16 months from order to launch.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #11 on: 08/06/2015 09:51 am »
From NewSpace 2015 conference. ULA targeting a price of $100-110m for Atlas V (base model??) within the next few years, currently on track to meet that price bracket. 

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #12 on: 08/06/2015 08:28 pm »
On a different note, it would seem that ULA is starting to wake up in the commercial market. I would be very worried now that DoD launch cadence is slowing down and ULA has to make up that revenue in the commercial market.
It's a Lockheed-Martin contract, not ULA.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #13 on: 08/07/2015 12:08 am »
Most likely it is their availability - F9 and Ariane 5 probably could not meet the target date.

Note very short time - 16 months from order to launch.

According to Peter B. de Selding, that was indeed the main issue.  The satellite would be ready in July 2016, and Ariane did not have any slots in the second half of 2016.  In addition, weight growth might have made finding a lower-berth co-passenger difficult.

http://spacenews.com/echostar-books-a-commercial-atlas-5-for-jupiter-2/

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #14 on: 08/07/2015 12:44 am »
This is second time ULA have picked up launches on short notice, this may have something to do with having spare capacity. Cygnus this year was the other. There is also no LV insurance required with Atlas.

http://www.gizmag.com/atlas-v-guarantee-lockheed-refly-refund/31239/

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #15 on: 08/07/2015 02:59 am »

Both Rainbow-1 and AMC-16 were both launched on 521 versions.

I can't recall, but those might have been launched with 5-m fairings only to get in some 5-m fairing flights.

I know at one time WGS was also on a 521, the first 2 eventually flew on 421s.

WGS satellite were never planned to fly on the 521 config. Only the 421 if the Atlas V was the launch vehicle.
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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #16 on: 08/07/2015 05:52 pm »

Most likely it is their availability - F9 and Ariane 5 probably could not meet the target date.

Note very short time - 16 months from order to launch.

According to Peter B. de Selding, that was indeed the main issue.  The satellite would be ready in July 2016, and Ariane did not have any slots in the second half of 2016.  In addition, weight growth might have made finding a lower-berth co-passenger difficult.

http://spacenews.com/echostar-books-a-commercial-atlas-5-for-jupiter-2/

It shows you that Ariane's requirement to launch two satellites at once can actually be a disadvantage so it's no wonder Ariane 6 is looking to move away from this.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #17 on: 08/12/2015 06:37 pm »
On a slightly less serious note:
I wonder if the surviving cast of the TV series Lost in Space will be invited to the launch of this JUPITER 2?

More serious business questions:
Is JUPITER 2 a trademarked name?  Did Hughes Network Systems pay a fee to use the name?

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #18 on: 08/12/2015 09:39 pm »

WGS satellite were never planned to fly on the 521 config.

The first one was.

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Re: ULA Atlas V - EchoStar XIX - Cape Canaveral - 2016
« Reply #19 on: 08/13/2015 05:50 pm »
You believe a WGS satellite could withstand all that room inside a 5-meter fairing?
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