I wonder if the full video showing the Titan failure during the last Hexagon launch will now be available or could be requested (FOIA?). There were rumors several of the frames showed the payload outside of the shroud falling back to the launchpad...
So was the HEXAGON the first use of an solid state image sensor technology in reconnaissance sats?
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1931/1Big Black throws a partyby Dwayne A. DayMonday, September 19, 2011On Saturday night the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) celebrated its fiftieth anniversary with a major bash at the Smithsonian’s Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center near Dulles International Airport. The spooks definitely know how to throw a party....
1-I for one thing am curious about the features still hidden. I haven't found anything, yet, on the subsatellites (FERRETs and scientific) - possibly apart from the "black boxes" depicted below. 2-On the other side, there are lots of gems, like, e.g., the amazing film path starting at the supply spool, making its way through the camera, and initialy all four of the recovery vehicles...
Quote from: robertross on 09/19/2011 09:22 pmSo was the HEXAGON the first use of an solid state image sensor technology in reconnaissance sats?Good question - previously we had speculated that HEXAGON might have served as a testbed for some KH-11 sensor technologies.The HEXAGON Story (page 111) states that Perkin Elmer's solid-state stellar camera (S3) first flew on mission 1217, i.e. May 1982. By that time four KH-11 Block 1 satellites had already been launched, and CCDs had been around for +6 years (first "big" international conference on CCDs was held in 1976). Thus HEXAGON might in this case have inherited some KH-11 technology.
This is just an "I heard that...", so take it with due caution and FWIW. However, I heard that the initial KH-11s used a different sensor technology than CCDs, which seems kind of consistent with the development timelines of both the satellite and CCDs.
Quote from: hoku on 09/19/2011 10:55 pm1-I for one thing am curious about the features still hidden. I haven't found anything, yet, on the subsatellites (FERRETs and scientific) - possibly apart from the "black boxes" depicted below. 2-On the other side, there are lots of gems, like, e.g., the amazing film path starting at the supply spool, making its way through the camera, and initialy all four of the recovery vehicles...1-I did not expect them to release anything on the sigint ferrets. We do have information on the S3 scientific subsatellites. I have heard that a declassification effort concerning the sigint ferrets is underway, but the confidence level on that is low. Frankly, the sigint guys haven't been able to take public credit for what they did, and maybe they never will (except for the POPPY and GRAB guys).2-Yeah, that was a surprise. A year or so ago I was talking to somebody about how that film path might have worked. We speculated that it might have been like CORONA, threaded through each recovery bucket. But we didn't like that idea, because it seemed pretty gutsy to run it through four buckets, especially since the film must have moved pretty fast. What happens if you get a jam? You could lose a lot. So we speculated that they might have had some system that threaded each bucket individually after one was dumped. More complex, of course. But the diagram shows that they did it like CORONA.
Linear diode arrays? Though they have low Qe, the technology was mature in the early 70's.
Maybe coupled with first or second gen image intensifier tubes?
My money would be on rad-hard vidicons, as used on Voyager. It's simple and they knew it would work. Plus, I doubt Qe was the driving force, but rather resolution...http://pds-rings.seti.org/voyager/iss/inst_cat_na1.html#inst_det
...You've never worked in the motion picture industry then I take it. This film path is downright simple compared to some I've had to work with. Even the multiple recovery buckets is right off of several specialty cameras I've worked on, which had multiple pick-up spools. I'm attaching the picture of a PSK-30 for example of one such design, it's design allowing for travelling masks to allow dynamic matting, for FX work, much more complex than the film path above.This path here is nothing unusual, nor complex.
Quote from: Downix on 09/20/2011 02:55 pm...You've never worked in the motion picture industry then I take it. This film path is downright simple compared to some I've had to work with. Even the multiple recovery buckets is right off of several specialty cameras I've worked on, which had multiple pick-up spools. I'm attaching the picture of a PSK-30 for example of one such design, it's design allowing for travelling masks to allow dynamic matting, for FX work, much more complex than the film path above.This path here is nothing unusual, nor complex.Neat, but did it also include a Nitrogen tank for the airbars? I should have mentioned that the Hexaon film path depicted above is a gross oversimplicifation. To quote from The Hexagon Story:"The distance the film traveled (...) was 140 feet ... over 124 rollers in camera A, 131 rollers in camera B, and six airbars in each camera. (...)In the fine film-transport system, the film was accelerated to 200 inches per second, decelerated, and recycled, while platen cycled through the photo-recyle phase."Having never worked in the motion picture industry, I'm still quite impressed by the Hexagon film path!