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A thread for the first (launched) CLPS lunar lander mission.

Launch thread is: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43448.0



Astrobotic press release following launch:

https://www.astrobotic.com/astrobotics-peregrine-launches-to-the-moon/

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ASTROBOTIC’S PEREGRINE LAUNCHES TO THE MOON
PRESS RELEASE 01 | 08 | 24

Cape Canaveral, Florida – Astrobotic’s Peregrine Mission One has successfully launched to the Moon. Peregrine is now flying solo on its way to the Moon, where it will attempt a lunar landing on February 23, 2024. Peregrine could become the first commercial lander, and first American lander in over 50 years, to land on the Moon.

At 2:18am ET on January 8, 2024, the company’s Peregrine Lunar Lander lifted off on a United Launch Alliance (ULA) Vulcan rocket from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Peregrine launched on Vulcan’s maiden flight, known as Cert-1. Vulcan lifted Peregrine to an altitude of approximately 500 km above the Earth, where, at approximately 50 minutes after launch, the lander separated from the rocket and successfully powered on. Following separation, Astrobotic successfully contacted the lander and began receiving telemetry.

“Today Peregrine Mission One achieved a number of big milestones,” said John Thornton, CEO of Astrobotic. “Peregrine powered on, acquired a signal with Earth, and is now moving through space on its way to the Moon. These successes bring us one step closer to seven nations landing on the Moon, six of which have never been to the Moon before.”

Peregrine Mission One is the first successful launch under NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services initiative. The mission is delivering scientific instruments and payloads to the Moon’s Gruithuisen Domes region. The NASA instruments aboard Peregrine will help NASA prepare for the Artemis program’s missions to enable a sustained human presence on the Moon.

Peregrine is carrying a total of 20 payloads from seven nations and 16 commercial customers. The payloads come from space agencies, universities, companies, and individuals across the globe. This includes the first lunar surface payloads from the Mexican and German space agencies, and the first lunar payloads from the countries of the United Kingdom, Hungary, and Seychelles. One of the payloads, DHL MoonBox, contains mementos and messages from over 100,000 individuals around the world. 

The Peregrine lander itself, which was assembled at Astrobotic’s headquarters in Pittsburgh, PA, includes parts manufactured by hundreds of suppliers from across the US, including 184 companies in Pennsylvania alone.

“Astrobotic would like to thank its suppliers, customers, sponsors, supporters, and 250-employee team, who have worked tirelessly for years to make this moment possible,” said Thornton.

Following Peregrine Mission One, Astrobotic plans to continue its lunar exploration efforts with the launch of Griffin Mission One in late 2024. Griffin, the largest lunar lander since the Apollo lunar module, will carry NASA’s Volatiles Investigating Polar Exploration Rover (VIPER) to the south pole of the Moon. On arrival, VIPER will search for the presence of water ice in the permanently shadowed regions of Mons Mouton.
« Last Edit: 01/18/2024 03:54 pm by Chris Bergin »

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: 01/08/2024 01:41 pm »
https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1744367789953933641

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An Update on Peregrine Mission One:

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After successfully separating from United Launce Alliance's Vulcan rocket, Astrobotic's Peregrine lunar lander began receiving telemetry via the NASA Deep Space Network. Astrobotic-built avionics systems, including the primary command and data handling unit, as well as the thermal, propulsion, and power controllers, all powered on and performed as expected. After successful propulsion systems activation, Peregrine entered a fully operational state. Unfortunately, an anomaly occurred, which prevented Astrobotic from achieving a stable sun-pointing orientation. The team is responding in real time as the situation unfolds and will be providing updates as data is obtained and analyzed.
« Last Edit: 01/08/2024 01:42 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #2 on: 01/08/2024 02:35 pm »

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: 01/08/2024 02:47 pm »
In a recent meeting, Lori Glaze, head of NASA's planetary division, reminded the audience that the goal of these commercial flights is to build the capacity of the commercial sector. Successful landings would be a bonus.

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The "hyper-commercial, high risk" approach in CLPS will be under heavy scrutiny if this one doesn't make it to at least LLO.

https://www.spacescout.info/2023/10/op-ed-can-we-arrest-the-fall-of-clps/
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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #5 on: 01/08/2024 03:03 pm »
In a recent meeting, Lori Glaze, head of NASA's planetary division, reminded the audience that the goal of these commercial flights is to build the capacity of the commercial sector. Successful landings would be a bonus.
Sounds like they were setting low expectations.

Not being able to achieve stable sun pointing portends a critical power situation. Hopefully they're able to get intermittent battery charging so comm can be maintained long enough to debug and resolve the problem. Otherwise they are now on the clock as their battery drains.

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A propulsion system (RCS?) issue at such early stages of the flight is never good.
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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: 01/08/2024 03:21 pm »
The "hyper-commercial, high risk" approach in CLPS will be under heavy scrutiny if this one doesn't make it to at least LLO.

https://www.spacescout.info/2023/10/op-ed-can-we-arrest-the-fall-of-clps/
Probably, but "high-risk" is supposed to mean that some missions will fail. It is inevitable that critics will scream, but it's stupid to extrapolate from a sample size of one.

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: 01/08/2024 03:45 pm »
I could see reacquisition of the signal on https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html, but minutes ago it stopped broadcasting. Hope it's not over.

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: 01/08/2024 03:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1744400837571682315

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It looks like Astrobotic re-established communication with Peregrine for about 15 minutes at 11:30 am ET via the Deep Space Network. But now it's stopped again.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/astrobotic-says-there-has-been-an-anomaly-with-its-lunar-lander/

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #10 on: 01/08/2024 04:04 pm »
The "hyper-commercial, high risk" approach in CLPS will be under heavy scrutiny if this one doesn't make it to at least LLO.

https://www.spacescout.info/2023/10/op-ed-can-we-arrest-the-fall-of-clps/
Probably, but "high-risk" is supposed to mean that some missions will fail. It is inevitable that critics will scream, but it's stupid to extrapolate from a sample size of one.

Zurbuchen described CLPS missions as shots on goal. The implication was that not all shots would be goals.

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #11 on: 01/08/2024 04:12 pm »
I could see reacquisition of the signal on https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html, but minutes ago it stopped broadcasting. Hope it's not over.

I guess that question is if this was within the expected loss of communication.

'Propulsion' anomaly often means fuel was used unexpectantly. 

I am very saddened by this :(
When do we see the first Superheavy reuse?

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #12 on: 01/08/2024 04:28 pm »
https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1744389634568724791

A propulsion system (RCS?) issue at such early stages of the flight is never good.

Bad news indeed.
Has it been reported who provided the propulsion subsystem components?

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #13 on: 01/08/2024 04:29 pm »
Zurbuchen described CLPS missions as shots on goal. The implication was that not all shots would be goals.
The question is how many failures will be tolerated before the whole program is killed.  It's not like NASA has a lot of extra cash at this point.

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #14 on: 01/08/2024 04:30 pm »
DSS-53 is AOS with APM-1 again. Signal received right at 1730 UTC.
« Last Edit: 01/08/2024 04:38 pm by DaveS »
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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #15 on: 01/08/2024 04:35 pm »
https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1744412283743199585

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Update #3 for Peregrine Mission One:

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We have successfully re-established communications with Peregrine after the known communication blackout. The team's improvised maneuver was successful in reorienting Peregrine's solar array towards the Sun. We are now charging the battery. The Mission Anomaly Board continues to evaluate the data we're receiving and is assessing the status of what we believe to be the root of the anomaly: a failure within the propulsion system.
We are grateful for the outpouring of support we're receiving - from messages on social media to phone calls and helping hands. This is what makes the space industry so special, that we unite in the face of adversity. A heartfelt thank you from the entire Peregrine Mission One team.
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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #16 on: 01/08/2024 04:37 pm »
Zurbuchen described CLPS missions as shots on goal. The implication was that not all shots would be goals.
The question is how many failures will be tolerated before the whole program is killed.  It's not like NASA has a lot of extra cash at this point.

CLPS missions are cheap. This mission was about $100M. A success ratio of about 50% would be good.

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Not sure average taxpayer would call $100M cheap. But lot less expensive than typical inhouse NASA mission.

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Re: Astrobotic Peregine Mission One - Updates & Discussion
« Reply #18 on: 01/08/2024 04:50 pm »
Zurbuchen described CLPS missions as shots on goal. The implication was that not all shots would be goals.
The question is how many failures will be tolerated before the whole program is killed.  It's not like NASA has a lot of extra cash at this point.

As I understand it, there are 9 funded CLPS missions in the pipeline, so at worst, I have to think we're going to at least get through this batch. 

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