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Thread for the Starlink 2-2 group launch.

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Launch TBD, from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station SLC-40, on booster 10xx-x 1060-15.  ASDS landing is expected.

Payload 51? Starlink satellites to 70 degree inclination on a south-southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit of approximately 230 x 335 km?

Starlink v1.5 satellite mass is now about 300kg after the addition of laser ISL terminals.

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Cross-post:
Starlink 2-2, 70° incl., Florida NET Nov. 30
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Mission 1597 Starlink Group 2-2 from Cape Canaveral FL at LC-40 CCAFS or LC-39a at KSC
North  23  7  38  West  79  5  31  Autonomous Drone Ship
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The landing location on the map:

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Wish that had a scale,  looks less than 20 miles from Cuba, WOW
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32 miles from Cuba.

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32 miles from Cuba.

I think this is similar to Transporter 1 and 4.
My personal opinion is, this is unnecessary, as long as SpaceX has time in Vandenberg to launch Starlink
with 53° inclination. I don't know how the reaction would be in the US if it were the other way around.
What is the plan, if something goes wrong with the reentry burn? Which has already happened. (B1059)
Is it certain the booster can't fall on land?
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Booster FTS is active until after completion of the entry burn. The booster would be destroyed (if a failed entry burn didn't cause that already) and the fragments would have quite high drag-to-weight so wouldn't reach land.

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32 miles from Cuba.

I think this is similar to Transporter 1 and 4.

Indeed. Transporter 1 landing is blue on the map below, Transporter 4 is orange. Does that imply group 2-2 is not going to a 70° inclined orbit but to 97.6°?

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32 miles from Cuba.

I think this is similar to Transporter 1 and 4.

Indeed. Transporter 1 landing is blue on the map below, Transporter 4 is orange. Does that imply group 2-2 is not going to a 70° inclined orbit but to 97.6°?

On the transporter missions from Florida, the 2nd stage performed an additional dogleg maneuver,
when passing the southern tip of Florida.
Thank you for comparing the ASDS positions.
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32 miles from Cuba.

I think this is similar to Transporter 1 and 4.

Indeed. Transporter 1 landing is blue on the map below, Transporter 4 is orange. Does that imply group 2-2 is not going to a 70° inclined orbit but to 97.6°?

On the transporter missions from Florida, the 2nd stage performed an additional dogleg maneuver,
when passing the southern tip of Florida.
Thank you for comparing the ASDS positions.

Wouldn't it be better to move the landing position closer to the Bahamas when targeting 70° inclination to reduce the degree of dogleg maneuvers?
« Last Edit: 10/31/2022 09:33 pm by OceanCat »

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Could there be a rideshare going to inclination >70? Is even a couple of degrees different possible?

Could that explain odd position? (Seems doubtful to me but I won't know for sure unless I ask.)

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32 miles from Cuba.

I think this is similar to Transporter 1 and 4.

Indeed. Transporter 1 landing is blue on the map below, Transporter 4 is orange. Does that imply group 2-2 is not going to a 70° inclined orbit but to 97.6°?

It's a mess, seems like this Group 2-2 filing has the right ASDS location for Group 5-1!

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They are still two planes/launches short of finishing shell 3. Seems odd to start on shell 5 before shell 3 is finished.

Of course, last year everyone was thinking Vandenberg would concentrate on shell 2...
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NextSpaceFlight, updated November 14:
Launch will be from CCSFS SLC-40.  First stage is 1060.15.
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SFN Launch Schedule, updated November 22:
December launch
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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated November 27:
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Other upcoming launches include more Starlink batches on December TBD.
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NextSpaceflight (Updated 30 November)
No longer lists B1060.15

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7031
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Cross-post re: Starlink 4-37, noting no changes today regarding Starlink 2-2:
SFN Launch Schedule, updated December 5:
Launch date TBD.  (No change to the Starlink 2-2 listing.)
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Is this launch NET January?
Cross-post re: Starlink 4-37, noting no changes today regarding Starlink 2-2:
SFN Launch Schedule, updated December 5:
Launch date TBD.  (No change to the Starlink 2-2 listing.)
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Is this launch NET January?
Cross-post re: Starlink 4-37, noting no changes today regarding Starlink 2-2:
SFN Launch Schedule, updated December 5:
Launch date TBD.  (No change to the Starlink 2-2 listing.)

Assuming they "could" do 7 days between launches from SLC-40 (3 times previous), this or Starlink 5-1 could be squeezed in at the end of the year

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