Significant progress made over the last quarter:Completed two Critical Design Reviews– Dragon, F9, ground systems, and operations– SpaceX in the process of addressing all NASA comments to satisfactionPropulsion System Testing– Began Initial propulsive landing tests (Pad abort vehicle)– Propulsion system testing (SuperDraco Module)Activated 39A launch siteGood progress on space suit and helmet designCrew Module seats being modified to maximize crewsafetyFlew upgraded F9 that will carry crewCompleted first 4-parachute testQualification and production on key components– Dragon vehicle structures are in production– Conducted Qualification testing of several F9 Systems and development testing of stage separation system to human standards– Completed Docking System QualificationApproved alternate standards– Software alternate standard approved– Avionics environmental testing alternate standard approved
Some time back we had a discussion going about SpaceX CCtCAP milestones and it wandered off into a political discussion and the mods decided to move the whole thing to Space Politics. I can't even find it there.Boeing has been very public about its milestones but SpaceX has been silent. NASA has stated that things are progressing but nothing definitive. Some of the milestones should be easy to observe like #6) Propulsive Land Landing Test Complete. Wouldn't someone see this at McGregor?Which milestones are known to be complete?{snip}
So I guess we can take Chris's NAC chart as definitive up to end of November 2015. So I see rockets4life items 2 & 3 but 7 is in November. And I will create a new column for adjusted target dates. As for The Man In A Can's post, only 3 items are clearly stated as completed, a second CDR (4), Docking System Qualification (5) and Parachute test which I will take to be item 11.
I've been trying to find the original list of milestones from NASA, because I want to add descriptions. Can someone provide me with the link?
Here is the milestones chart as of march 2016 posted on twitter by Jeff Foust and reported by Sesquipedalian on the commercial crew schedule thread.https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/715552131323994115EDIT : Corrected a mistake about who posted it
Quote from: The man in the can on 03/31/2016 07:31 pmHere is the milestones chart as of march 2016 posted on twitter by Jeff Foust and reported by Sesquipedalian on the commercial crew schedule thread.https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/715552131323994115EDIT : Corrected a mistake about who posted itAnd as expected the uncrewed mission of Dragon 2 to the ISS has shifted some five months to the right and is now thoroughly in 2017. There will be no Dragon 2 launching this year. Compared to what was reported last November the crewed demo mission shifted no less than eight months to the right, to august 2017.The interval between the unmanned flight and the in-flight abort test is IMO unrealistically tight (just two months), so I expect the in-flight abort test to shift to the right. Which means the crewed demo mission will also shift to the right (again). I fully expect for it to eventually shift into 2018.I also expect similar shifts to happen for CST-100. IMO their first crewed mission will also go into 2018.
Quote from: woods170 on 04/01/2016 07:18 amQuote from: The man in the can on 03/31/2016 07:31 pmHere is the milestones chart as of march 2016 posted on twitter by Jeff Foust and reported by Sesquipedalian on the commercial crew schedule thread.https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/715552131323994115EDIT : Corrected a mistake about who posted itAnd as expected the uncrewed mission of Dragon 2 to the ISS has shifted some five months to the right and is now thoroughly in 2017. There will be no Dragon 2 launching this year. Compared to what was reported last November the crewed demo mission shifted no less than eight months to the right, to august 2017.The interval between the unmanned flight and the in-flight abort test is IMO unrealistically tight (just two months), so I expect the in-flight abort test to shift to the right. Which means the crewed demo mission will also shift to the right (again). I fully expect for it to eventually shift into 2018.I also expect similar shifts to happen for CST-100. IMO their first crewed mission will also go into 2018.Oh things have slipped, indeed. But far worse than 5 months. If you talk to engineers actually doing CCtCap work, they all say add another 17 months for Boeing and 19-20 for SpaceX, that Boeing flies in 12/2017 followed by SpaceX.Does anyone actually have a CCtCap milestone update? The last I have is McAlister's July 2015 Commercial Crew Status. Back then, Boeing had completed only 4/23 of its CCtCap milestones and SpaceX only 1/18. I note above graphic that shows Boeing and SpaceX have plans to complete a great many milestones throughout 2016. But then SpaceX said it would complete the CCiCap inflight abort test by December. Here we are, in May, and SpaceX is now officially over two years behind on CCiCap Milestone 14. Maybe the third anniversary will be the charm? In any case, after the delays of COTS, CRS, and CCiCap, what the CCP companies want to do, and what they in fact do don't match-up very well, at least for SpaceX.
Oh things have slipped, indeed. But far worse than 5 months. If you talk to engineers actually doing CCtCap work, they all say add another 17 months for Boeing and 19-20 for SpaceX, that Boeing flies in 12/2017 followed by SpaceX.Does anyone actually have a CCtCap milestone update? The last I have is McAlister's July 2015 Commercial Crew Status. Back then, Boeing had completed only 4/23 of its CCtCap milestones and SpaceX only 1/18. I note above graphic that shows Boeing and SpaceX have plans to complete a great many milestones throughout 2016. But then SpaceX said it would complete the CCiCap inflight abort test by December. Here we are, in May, and SpaceX is now officially over two years behind on CCiCap Milestone 14. Maybe the third anniversary will be the charm? In any case, after the delays of COTS, CRS, and CCiCap, what the CCP companies want to do, and what they in fact do don't match-up very well, at least for SpaceX.
^ This is very frustrating to learn, but I'm glad some reality has been injected into the conversations around here to counter the hype. I really wish SpaceX would be realistic about their product delivery dates, it has knock-on effects for Red Dragon and their long term goals. Why even mention 2018 as a possibility if the are so far behind on getting Dragon 2 in any configuration off the ground?