I predict that most predictions here will turn out to be wrong.
General- Planet 9 discovered and it has one really surprising aspect
SpaceX- F9 doesn't win the air force launcher competitionNGIS+ OmegA wins the air force launcher competition
Quote from: Darkseraph on 12/23/2019 12:07 pmGeneral- Planet 9 discovered and it has one really surprising aspectThe surprising aspect will be that it is named Pluto. Some people will claim it was discovered in 1930.
- The Lunar Gateway will plod onwards, drawing lots of OldSpace interest like flies to honey but won't have a defined mission that actually makes engineering or technical sense. (gimme)
Quote from: Lar on 12/31/2019 02:13 am- The Lunar Gateway will plod onwards, drawing lots of OldSpace interest like flies to honey but won't have a defined mission that actually makes engineering or technical sense. (gimme)What's the point of making a prediction that is entirely subjective?
it's my prediction and it's not entirely subjective. Did you want to nitpick the rest too? Not a good look.
Sources report that the EM-1 @NASA_SLS launch is being delayed From Nov 2020 to TDB because EM-1 personnel are being shifted from EM-1 safety/software to EM-2 because EM-2 requires more people to do human rating (more complex than EM-1 which is not human-rated) #Artemis #Moon2024
It was always going to be one of to be one of the safer predictions, but credit to...
NASASLS:- Software issues pop up posing additional delays.
It was always going to be one of to be one of the safer predictions, but credit to niwax, FalconH, jebbo, AndrewRG10, freddo411, Darkseraph, Lar, Gliderflyer (and myself) for calling it: looks like SLS's maiden launch is being delayed.https://twitter.com/NASAWatch/status/1214221879193612289Quote from: NASAWatchSources report that the EM-1 @NASA_SLS launch is being delayed From Nov 2020 to TDB because EM-1 personnel are being shifted from EM-1 safety/software to EM-2 because EM-2 requires more people to do human rating (more complex than EM-1 which is not human-rated) #Artemis #Moon2024zubenelgenubi: Please remember to remove the "?s=XX" characters from the end of a Tweet hyperlink.
Quote from: Toast on 01/06/2020 07:04 pmIt was always going to be one of to be one of the safer predictions, but credit to niwax, FalconH, jebbo, AndrewRG10, freddo411, Darkseraph, Lar, Gliderflyer (and myself) for calling it: looks like SLS's maiden launch is being delayed.https://twitter.com/NASAWatch/status/1214221879193612289Quote from: NASAWatchSources report that the EM-1 @NASA_SLS launch is being delayed From Nov 2020 to TDB because EM-1 personnel are being shifted from EM-1 safety/software to EM-2 because EM-2 requires more people to do human rating (more complex than EM-1 which is not human-rated) #Artemis #Moon2024zubenelgenubi: Please remember to remove the "?s=XX" characters from the end of a Tweet hyperlink.I'd take anything NASAWatch says with a grain of salt, though I suppose even a broken clock is right once a day.I wonder why he still calls them "EM-1" and "EM-2?" It reminds me of that brief stint where he called SLS Block 1 "Block 1A."
I predict SLS is already cancelled. We just haven't experienced it yet.
NASA’s Mars 2020 rover suffers some mishap, technical or political, that delays its launch till the next launch window
My 2019 predictions weren’t as good as my 2018 predictions. Most of my misses were from being too optimistic on timelines for things to happen. So here goes:NASA planetary program Mars 2020 launches as planned.Space Tourism Blue Origin (everything a year later than last year’s predictions) Manned flights of New Shepard by end of Q2 Jeff Bezos takes flight in Q3 to show customers ready Commercial flights with tourists start in Q4 Jeff Bezos Offers Elon Musk a ride – Musk passes on opportunity Virgin Galactic Richard Branson takes flight in Q2 First tourist flight in Q3
Not as many predictions here, or as in depth, and is also USA specific, but here goes nothing:SpaceX-We see Crew Dragon hoist astros for the first time to the ISS in February/March-4/5 Crewed launches in all, and no anomalies/aborts-25-30 F9/FH launches-At least 1 booster will fail to land-Over half of launches will have a successful fairing catch (one or both)-No launch/on pad failures-Starlink becomes operational by Q3-Starship Mk 3 serves as another “pathfinder”, hops no higher than 10 KM, occurs Q1-Mk 4 hops 20KM + but fails landing/ belly first entry, occurs Q2-Mk 5 succeeds hops and “sky diver” entry, retires with valuable data, occurs in Q3-Mk 6 flies with first Super Heavy, misses orbit narrowly, Occurs in Q3-Mk 7 flies with SH and achieves orbit/successful reentry, occurs in Q4ULA-Keeps it’s 100% success rate-No more than 12 flights during the year-Vulcan flies twice, both flawless, certified by USAF for flights-S.M.A.R.T reuse works only once in a Vulcan flight during the year-Launches crew to ISS in Q2, no more than 3 flights with crew to ISS during the year(Rather bland considering how little was done this year in 2019 besides the Starliner launch)Blue Origin-Space Tourists launch on New Shepherd in Q2-New Glenn launch pad completes construction in Q2-Flight hardware for first New Glenn launch will start to arrive Q4-More information given about supposed “New Armstrong” rocketSLS Artemis 1 Mission-Artemis 1 core has successful “green run” campaign at Stennis, ships to Cape in late Q2-Orion succeeds all testing, ships to cape in Q2-Other components arrive in Q2/Q3-Stacking of the Artemis 1 mission begins in late Q3-Full stack rolls to 39B in late Q4 for testing/WDR’s
Quote from: RocketLover0119 on 12/25/2019 10:19 pm<snip>Certainly is fun to come back to predictions! I was way to optimistic for starship it seems. Wrong on crewed flight end, was a gutsy prediction to begin with. Can’t believe I thought Vulcan would fly. Awaiting final WDR/firing of Artemis core, still think it will succeed. Obviously blows keep coming for first SLS flight date. Blue origin is much more silent than I predicted for the year. Starlink still yet to be operational.
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Evidence of a nitrogen and carbon dioxide atmosphere found at an extrasolar planet
Starship Hopper hops twice, each time higher than before
SpaceX reaches orbit at least 6 times with Falcon 9 and one time with Falcon Heavy
SpaceX will start taking astronauts to the ISS
NASA’s Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 both keep transmitting
NASA’s Curiosity rover gets stuck somewhere, due to terrain or wheel failure. Engineers figure it out and the rover is soon mobile again.
ESA’s ExoMars rover launches without incident
Virgin Orbit/Galactic will start taking paying passengers into space
Blue Origin will do exactly the opposite of what I predict for themBlue Origin will launch people into space before the end of the year
A large meteor will burn up over Canada. It will be caught on video
Elon Musk will get a NASA Spaceflight account, but not post much because of a barrage of questions
There will be some kind of technology breakthrough that will really help spaceflight
Quote from: scienceguy on 11/01/2019 04:22 pmBlue Origin will do exactly the opposite of what I predict for themBlue Origin will launch people into space before the end of the yearBlue Origin did not launch people into space therefore they did the exact opposite of what I predicted for them. 1 point.
100+ orbital launch attempts worldwide.
SpaceX (edited post-mk1 "RUD")- >20 F9/FH launches
- At least one booster achieves 5+ launches
- At least one fairing half is reused for the 2nd time.
- Starlink enters limited service (US only)
- Starship manages a 20km belly-flop in Q4
- No orbital Starship launches
Blue Origin- First crewed launch of New Shepard
- Completion of LC-36
- First New Glenn flight hardware seen- First hints of New Armstrong emerge (because of Artemis / lunar stuff)
Artemis / Lunar- Artemis 1 slips to 2021- Increased commercial involvement
Other US- Rocket Labs successfully catch a booster
- LauncherOne first launch attempt
Europe- First Ariane 6 launch
- Commit to a reusable ArianeNEXT (possibly in 2019 at Ministerial Council)
China- 40+ launches
- Long March 5B flights resume in Q1
- Chang’e 5 launches successfully
- More progress on reuse (no successful landing but boost-back/landing burns; legs fitted)
Other- Iran finally launch successfully
Science- I’m not making any detailed exoplanet predictions, but TESS discoveries continue and CHEOPS refines the mass/radius/density relationship
- LIGO adds the Japanese Kagra instrument and detects at least 1 NS-NS merger with an EM counterpart
Quote from: scienceguy on 11/01/2019 04:22 pmA large meteor will burn up over Canada. It will be caught on videoapparently this happened!https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.5214786 I get one more point!
My 2019 predictions weren’t as good as my 2018 predictions. Most of my misses were from being too optimistic on timelines for things to happen. So here goes:
NASA planetary program Mars 2020 launches as planned.
Space Tourism Blue Origin (everything a year later than last year’s predictions) Manned flights of New Shepard by end of Q2 Jeff Bezos takes flight in Q3 to show customers ready Commercial flights with tourists start in Q4 Jeff Bezos Offers Elon Musk a ride – Musk passes on opportunity Virgin Galactic Richard Branson takes flight in Q2 First tourist flight in Q3
Space TourismCommercial Crew Dragon Demo 2 with crew on board flies by end of April One crew rotation flight by end of year CST-100 Crewed test flight pushed to October and successful
SLS Production contracts SLS including EUS move forward Stays on schedule for 2021 launch
Orion Discuss with ESA possibility of bigger service module with greater Delta-V Will be ready for 2021 flight of Artemis 1
SpaceX Falcon 9 perfect record - One first stage gets to its fifth flight (finally in 2020) Two more Falcon Heavy launches Dragon - See above Starship Steady development, but slower than expected Quiet discussions with NASA about possible alternative to SLS - specific Senator blows his top
Blue Origin New Glenn First stage prototype built and fit checked on launch pad that is not done Second stage details emerge - future version will be refuelable for Moon and beyond
New Moon Lander Team with Lockheed, NGIS and Draper gets NASA funding
ULA All launches successful Vulcan development continues on schedule
Small Launchers Virgin Orbit Two successful launches (prediction will finally happen in 2020)
Rocket Lab Continues to grow (same prediction as last year)
Stratolauncher New owner moves forward with test flights of carrier aircraft Will remain very secretive about plans
Lunar landers NASA will fund initial development of both Blue Origin’s team and Boeing’s concept
ISS Commercial crew delivers astronauts on both Dragon & CST-100 Outside of commercial crew little attention will be paid to ISS
Gateway PPE development on schedule Minimal habitation module moves forward on schedule ESA starts developing Esprit module Russia - talk but still no agreement to contribute
Artemis Program NASA gets budget estimate and timeline to Congress by end of May Includes concepts for lunar surface operations and initial habitat
Mars Development of Nuclear Thermal engine continues still eyeing 2024 in space test Concepts for Mars missions using Nuclear Thermal in 2030s come out by year’s end Concept includes leaving from Gateway to Mars SpaceX’s plan to send cargo version of Starship gets moved from 2022 to 2024
I'm predicting another optimistic year with lots of positive activity
Quote from: woods170 on 11/06/2019 08:30 amI predict that most predictions here will turn out to be wrong.As is tradition.My predictions:-Artemis I gets another delay.-Russia has at least two launch failures.-No space tourism launches from Blue Origin or Virgin Galactic.-SpaceX loses at least one Starship prototype to failure, but successfully reaches orbit by end of year.
Lets do this...1. Spaceship SN1 does not fly until late late Q1 or early to middle Q22. Boca Chica residents all settle with SpaceX and vacate BC by the end of 20203. Virgin Galactic has a few more (perhaps manned) test flights but neither Branson nor paying customers go to space in 2020.4. SpaceX has 1 loss of Starlink satellites due to launch failure or orbit insertion failure.5. SpaceX recovers 40% of all F9 launch fairing.6. SpaceX achieves 23 successful launches in 2020.7. FH's main core lands safely.8. Starlink goes live for paying customers in Q3-Q4 2020.9. Musk unveils Mars-Specific TBM hardware during his yearly SpaceX update.10. Musk gives more details about the pressurized version of the Cybertruck for Mars during his yearly SpaceX update.11. Year 4 - SLS continues its slow death (more delays, more funding cuts).12. JWST is delayed again.13. Mars 2020 Rover launches on time (Robotic and Deep Space - the one thing that NASA knows how to do well).14. There are no Alien signals detected coming out of the astronomy community.15. A flat earther launches to space, sees the curvature of the earth, then claims he was seeing a simulation projected onto his retina from the sides of the ship's windows.
“ -SpaceX recovered 17 fairings from sea or vessel out of 49 F9 launches. well over 40% (1)”Errrrrrrr. .4 *49 = 19.6
My predictions for 2020.. somewhat rehashed from 2019, which were rehashed from 20182019: -- guesses: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46748.msg1888769#msg1888769 -- results: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46748.msg2028923#msg20289232018: -- guesses: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=44307.msg1759927#msg1759927 -- results: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=44307.msg1888676#msg18886762020 predictions:
I'll go bolder still: ULA (Vulcan, with Atlas V as a partial back-up) and NGIS (OmegA) win the Phase 2 Air Force launch competition. ULA gets the 60% share, NGIS the 40%.
A Starlink product with pricing will be announced before the end of Q3$100 beta? Sure, why not. 2/5
Okay here goes.- The world geopolitical situation remains tense but won’t go completely pear shaped this year like I’d been expecting, so no space warfare, no huge debris belts. Yet.RIGHT. Although Armenia and Azerbaijan went at it and we almost went to war with Iran. The geopolitical situation didn’t go pear-shaped, but the overall world situation did due to COVID.- NASA budget stays about the same, the impeachment drama sucks all the oxygen out of the air on Capitol Hill so to speak, leaving no room for big budgetary decisions. It’s an election year so no big cuts or increases. Fireworks with budget or world situation wait till 2021.RIGHT. Though Artemis didn’t get all the funding that it wanted for the lander.- First commercial lunar landers will be flight-ready by the end of 2020.WRONG. Not yet. This year though.- SLS aces its green run and will be almost flight-ready by the end of 2020, but there will be whispers from the winning presidential team and Congress about cancelling the program or cutting it down to only a few flights due to escalating costs and increasingly viable alternativesWRONG. No green run yet. Didn’t even hear any whispers from Congress, they were too busy with impeachment then COVID.- Starship makes it to orbit atop Super Heavy a week or two before Christmas next year. A timetable will be announced for crewed flights.WRONG on both counts, though spectacular progress was made, there were setbacks as well like the SN4 explosion.- Elon will announce another paying human customer for Starship (like I’d expected this year).WRONG. The customer was AXIOM for Crew Dragon.- SpaceX Falcon 9 will fly 20 flights, all successful. Falcon Heavy will fly once. HALF RIGHT. F9 flew 26 times, but no FH flights.- DM-2 will send Americans back to space from US soil this spring, and will “capture the flag”. Boeing CFT follows 2-3 months later. USCV rotation flights operational by end of 2020HALF RIGHT. DM-2 and Crew-1 happened. But CFT got pushed back due to OFT-1 issues.- Mars 2020 and the UAE Hope mission will launch successfully to Mars. The ExoMars will be delayed to 2022 due to parachute issues and the Chinese will also need till 2022 to be ready to launch their orbiter/roverHALF RIGHT. Perseverance and Hope both launched successfully, and ExoMars was indeed delayed to 2022. However, the Chinese launched Tianwen in 2020 too.- Solar Orbiter launches successfully this coming FebruaryRIGHT.- JWST will be near flight readiness by the end of 2020RIGHT. The spacecraft is complete, launch set for OCT 2021.- Rocketlab will launch from Wallops near the end of 2020 and will recover one rocket by end of year. 10-12 flights.HALF RIGHT. No Wallops launch, but one rocket was recovered. 7 launches in 2020.- 2-4 failed launches between Iran, China, and Russia. Crewed Soyuz missions will fly safely though.HALF RIGHT. More than 4 failed launches, including maiden flights of US rockets. All Soyuz ISS missions flew successfully.- Another TESS exoplanet find will have water vapor in the habitable zone, size of planet will be close to EarthHALF RIGHT - TOI-700b announced in January, but no follow up yet. Yet.- Rumors of the “L” word (past or present life) on Mars, Europa, or Enceladus will be widely bandied about in the astronomy/planetary science community by the time Thanksgiving/Christmas roll around next year.WRONG. Nothing like that. Yet.- Curiosity has a successful year of scienceRIGHT- InSight mole gets partially unstuck and able to drill down a few feet but no more. Newly discovered properties of Martian soil are confirmed as culprit of mole issues, which is a big discovery in itselfHALF RIGHT. The jury’s still out, but the mole did get unstuck and they’re working on compacting the soil.- Osiris-Rex successfully collects a sample from Bennu after some initial problemsRIGHT. The only issue was that too much of the sample was collected and some of it leaked out so they had to forego an exact measurement.- Hayabusa2 successfully returns its sample from Ryugu to Earth late next yearRIGHT. - An exomoon is confirmedWRONG. But I expect it to happen one of these days.- Virgin Galactic FINALLY starts commercial flights just before Christmas next year. WRONG. COVID plus the move to New Mexico postponed things.- Blue Origin makes one or two New Shepard crewed test flights but does not yet start commercial service. First New Glenn pathfinder is rolled out late in the year and there will be more buzz about that from the companyHALF WRONG. No NS crewed flights, no NG pathfinder. But no commercial service, so that’s something.- Virgin Orbit makes its first test launch after New Year’s and flies at least one operational flight before the end of 2020.HALF RIGHT. VO did make a test launch but it failed. 2nd flight in early 2021.- Stratolaunch sadly goes nowhere, the aircraft is acquired by the DoD for outsize transport work and research by DARPAWRONG. Somehow it is still around as a potential space launcher, they’re trying again.- Starlink initial operational capability by the end of the year for North America. Progress will be made toward easing concerns about orbital debris and effect on astronomy (new coatings on spacecraft, shorter orbital lifetimes, paring down of satellites needed, etc.)HALF RIGHT. A new sunshade helped somewhat with the brightness issue, and there’s beta testing now, but no IOC yet.- On a personal level, I’ll build and finish at least 2 space models and will make at least one launch trip. HALF RIGHT. A great year on the model building front. But COVID scotched the launch trip. Planning for later in 2021 now.-