Was there a payload fairing recovery attempt? If so, any results?
I think it is possible to take a flown stage and make it into a mule, including adding bottom mounted RCS, to do these kinds of tests. However I don't think it's necessarily cost effective. I also don't think we'd ever see it on a customer flight....I expect the first mules will be Raptor engined. Which means off topic for here.
Quote from: dcporter on 12/23/2017 09:43 pmApologies, morning confident that this has been discussed but it will have been back ?? pages: what happened to booster recovery this mission?This booster was not recovered, hence no booster recovery thread.
Apologies, morning confident that this has been discussed but it will have been back ?? pages: what happened to booster recovery this mission?
I think last night might have been the biggest Rorschach test ever
Having a sinking feeling that most people actually do think it was aliens …
So strange that people often believe things inversely proportionate to the evidence. Given a set of possible explanations, why pick the extremely unlikely one!?
Quote from: tvg98 on 12/23/2017 10:02 pmQuote from: dcporter on 12/23/2017 09:43 pmApologies, morning confident that this has been discussed but it will have been back ?? pages: what happened to booster recovery this mission?This booster was not recovered, hence no booster recovery thread.Yes right sorry, I was asking why there was no booster recovery, not why there was no thread.
Quote from: dcporter on 12/24/2017 05:12 amQuote from: tvg98 on 12/23/2017 10:02 pmQuote from: dcporter on 12/23/2017 09:43 pmApologies, morning confident that this has been discussed but it will have been back ?? pages: what happened to booster recovery this mission?This booster was not recovered, hence no booster recovery thread.Yes right sorry, I was asking why there was no booster recovery, not why there was no thread.Maybe they had no set of legs available.Three sets are matched to the FH boosters, one set is on Zuma.The legs are ligth, but not cheap.
So I was wondering whether there were accidents caused by people being distracted with the launch, and sure enough it happened. PS: Some strong language's present
Quote from: tvg98 on 12/24/2017 10:54 am So I was wondering whether there were accidents caused by people being distracted with the launch, and sure enough it happened. PS: Some strong language's presentThe US is finally catching up to Russia when it comes to dashcam excitement!
Quote from: Kaputnik on 12/23/2017 01:15 pmQuote from: Stan Black on 12/23/2017 08:38 amIn this age of recycle and environment considerations, and Blue Planet II, I find dumping a rocket that can be recovered leaving me conflicted.OTOH think of all the diesel they saved by not steaming out there with an ASDS...But yeah I kind of agree with you. Single-use launch vehicles are starting to look like how we used to do this...In a strange way, the idea of dumping a reused booster actually validates the economics of reuse.Recalling the days when people said "They'll never be able to recover them" which quickly turned into "They can recover them, but they won't be able to refly them." Now, they're so successful at recovery that they can actually make a business decision about expending a booster after one reflight.Those kinds of economic profit-and-loss decisions are what you'd expect if reuse was actually about profitability and not just one charismatic rich guy's obsession.
Quote from: Stan Black on 12/23/2017 08:38 amIn this age of recycle and environment considerations, and Blue Planet II, I find dumping a rocket that can be recovered leaving me conflicted.OTOH think of all the diesel they saved by not steaming out there with an ASDS...But yeah I kind of agree with you. Single-use launch vehicles are starting to look like how we used to do this...
In this age of recycle and environment considerations, and Blue Planet II, I find dumping a rocket that can be recovered leaving me conflicted.
Quote from: sevenperforce on 12/23/2017 02:21 pmIn a strange way, the idea of dumping a reused booster actually validates the economics of reuse.Recalling the days when people said "They'll never be able to recover them" which quickly turned into "They can recover them, but they won't be able to refly them." Now, they're so successful at recovery that they can actually make a business decision about expending a booster after one reflight.Those kinds of economic profit-and-loss decisions are what you'd expect if reuse was actually about profitability and not just one charismatic rich guy's obsession.Should the rocket be dumped in the sea or recovered then scrapped?
In a strange way, the idea of dumping a reused booster actually validates the economics of reuse.Recalling the days when people said "They'll never be able to recover them" which quickly turned into "They can recover them, but they won't be able to refly them." Now, they're so successful at recovery that they can actually make a business decision about expending a booster after one reflight.Those kinds of economic profit-and-loss decisions are what you'd expect if reuse was actually about profitability and not just one charismatic rich guy's obsession.
Quote from: sevenperforce on 12/23/2017 02:21 pmQuote from: Kaputnik on 12/23/2017 01:15 pmQuote from: Stan Black on 12/23/2017 08:38 amIn this age of recycle and environment considerations, and Blue Planet II, I find dumping a rocket that can be recovered leaving me conflicted.OTOH think of all the diesel they saved by not steaming out there with an ASDS...But yeah I kind of agree with you. Single-use launch vehicles are starting to look like how we used to do this...In a strange way, the idea of dumping a reused booster actually validates the economics of reuse.Recalling the days when people said "They'll never be able to recover them" which quickly turned into "They can recover them, but they won't be able to refly them." Now, they're so successful at recovery that they can actually make a business decision about expending a booster after one reflight.Those kinds of economic profit-and-loss decisions are what you'd expect if reuse was actually about profitability and not just one charismatic rich guy's obsession.Should the rocket be dumped in the sea or recovered then scrapped?
And Scott get, -yet again, basic stuff wrong, not even put timing of the staging right. Also irregular part of the second stage's plume is due the first stage's short boostback burn. Blah.