Like the new mobile design(chrome beta on Android), but taking forever to load right now.. not sure what's up with that?
Are the "active discussions" on the front page equivalent to the "most recent" forum posts on the old site? I used those quite frequently.
The new site looks GREAT!Oh, and it looked pretty good on my smartphone too!And it did take me a few tries to bring it up on my laptop.One thing I'm unsure on - what's the purpose of the 'Popular Posts' section?Is this the top 5 articles in terms of forum posts?I was scrolling looking for the top posts section and when I found this, I clicked on one of them and was redirected to an article. I scrolled further down and then found it - 'Active Discussions' section.Kevin
Quote from: kcrick on 12/20/2017 07:47 pmThe new site looks GREAT!Oh, and it looked pretty good on my smartphone too!And it did take me a few tries to bring it up on my laptop.One thing I'm unsure on - what's the purpose of the 'Popular Posts' section?Is this the top 5 articles in terms of forum posts?I was scrolling looking for the top posts section and when I found this, I clicked on one of them and was redirected to an article. I scrolled further down and then found it - 'Active Discussions' section.KevinThe thing about the placement of active discussions is two fold.1) Most people enter the news site to read an article (direct link or otherwise). The placement means the active discussions are in the prime position when scrolling down, as opposed to scrolling out of view as soon as you move down the article.2) Any new people entering the news site (front of house) the first time need to be "exposed" to content, as in the news articles. Putting the forum discussion links right at the top of the fold view means they may never scroll down.Or something But yeah, having spent time on the beta site playing around, that worked out best overall.
Thanks for the great comments and suggestions so far! We will digest them a bit later or tomorrow. So far : - Logo is/should be replaced with a SVG file so, now you lucky guys with 4K+ monitors can also enjoy a sharp logo ;-)- Hyperlink and page navigation is on the todo-list- "Night" theme is being investigated, no promises yetMark
Looking good!I used to navigate to http://nasaspaceflight.com/ which now shows just 'lalala'. http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/ works great.
One more thing I just found. Captions are not showing on my phone. I tried tapping the images too, that didn't help.
Quote from: Michael Baylor on 12/20/2017 07:28 pmOne more thing I just found. Captions are not showing on my phone. I tried tapping the images too, that didn't help.What's your phone as I just looked at the site in my iphone 6 (Safari) and it showed captions.
I love the new site! Very clean looking and in keeping with modern "flat" design principles. Will test it later on my 4K TV.The larger image format will finally mean that Nathan's amazing renders get the screen space they deserve.Just one request, and I know this has been discussed before, but a "dark theme" would be excellent. YouTube has recently implemented one, and it is so much easier on the eye, especially at night (images attached). As a space site I think a dark theme would work well for us anyway.Great work!
Great looking new site Chris but you are missing one very useful thing that other sites like Spaceflightnow have.You need a Launch Schedule button or link at the top of your main page.I used to hunt around Nasaspaceflight looking for advance notice of future launches to set my schedule but I gave up when I discovered that Spaceflightnow had one.I prefer to use your web site so if you could add one, it would be helpful and much appreciated.KBO!
Quote from: haywoodfloyd on 12/21/2017 12:19 pmGreat looking new site Chris but you are missing one very useful thing that other sites like Spaceflightnow have.You need a Launch Schedule button or link at the top of your main page.I used to hunt around Nasaspaceflight looking for advance notice of future launches to set my schedule but I gave up when I discovered that Spaceflightnow had one.I prefer to use your web site so if you could add one, it would be helpful and much appreciated.KBO!Is the calendar of any help? (button on menu bar in forum)https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=calendar
Quote from: AnalogMan on 12/21/2017 01:05 pmQuote from: haywoodfloyd on 12/21/2017 12:19 pmGreat looking new site Chris but you are missing one very useful thing that other sites like Spaceflightnow have.You need a Launch Schedule button or link at the top of your main page.I used to hunt around Nasaspaceflight looking for advance notice of future launches to set my schedule but I gave up when I discovered that Spaceflightnow had one.I prefer to use your web site so if you could add one, it would be helpful and much appreciated.KBO!Is the calendar of any help? (button on menu bar in forum)https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=calendarIt sure is!Can't believe I missed that.Thanks.
Wow. Normal PC, but on a 4K telly?PS I don't think I'd ever consider Doncaster!
I like the new site. Only gripe is that active discussion area now much harder to find on desktop and on a mobile device; REALLY hard to see.
Quote from: MATTBLAK on 12/21/2017 08:14 pmI like the new site. Only gripe is that active discussion area now much harder to find on desktop and on a mobile device; REALLY hard to see.We're absolutely going to have a think about active discussions placement. Let's get mega launch Friday out of the way and have a review. I liked it, but the mob has spoken!
Bah, clearing cookies, cache, reboot didn't work... May need an exorcist...
Quote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 09:08 pmBah, clearing cookies, cache, reboot didn't work... May need an exorcist... That screenshot is funny, as it has some content from the old site and the mobile theme from the new site. Something very wrong in your browser there. PS. HOW many tabs do you have open! My PC grinds to a halt when I go over six tabs.
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 12/21/2017 10:44 pmQuote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 09:08 pmBah, clearing cookies, cache, reboot didn't work... May need an exorcist... That screenshot is funny, as it has some content from the old site and the mobile theme from the new site. Something very wrong in your browser there. PS. HOW many tabs do you have open! My PC grinds to a halt when I go over six tabs.I lost count of how many on different windows... I believe more open windows uses more resources than tabs. Perhaps a RAM upgrade would help? We can start a go fund me page for that on here, I'm sure many will chip in!
Do you use chrome? Open the new site in an Incognito window and see what happens. Quote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 10:58 pmQuote from: Chris Bergin on 12/21/2017 10:44 pmQuote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 09:08 pmBah, clearing cookies, cache, reboot didn't work... May need an exorcist... That screenshot is funny, as it has some content from the old site and the mobile theme from the new site. Something very wrong in your browser there. PS. HOW many tabs do you have open! My PC grinds to a halt when I go over six tabs.I lost count of how many on different windows... I believe more open windows uses more resources than tabs. Perhaps a RAM upgrade would help? We can start a go fund me page for that on here, I'm sure many will chip in!
Quote from: kevinof on 12/22/2017 09:46 amDo you use chrome? Open the new site in an Incognito window and see what happens. Quote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 10:58 pmQuote from: Chris Bergin on 12/21/2017 10:44 pmQuote from: Rocket Science on 12/21/2017 09:08 pmBah, clearing cookies, cache, reboot didn't work... May need an exorcist... That screenshot is funny, as it has some content from the old site and the mobile theme from the new site. Something very wrong in your browser there. PS. HOW many tabs do you have open! My PC grinds to a halt when I go over six tabs.I lost count of how many on different windows... I believe more open windows uses more resources than tabs. Perhaps a RAM upgrade would help? We can start a go fund me page for that on here, I'm sure many will chip in! Yes, I have Chrome but I have been road-testing the new Firefox Quantum since it's release about a month or so back. Thanks for the incognito window idea, Ill give it a try... Cheers!
Chris (and the team). there's something on your home page that causes my GPU on my laptop to running endlessly (and then the fans kick in and the heat builds up). Jumps to > 50% usage on page load and then settles down to around 18/20% continuous. This is Chrome on Windows 10. I will try on other browsers and see if it's the same.
Quote from: kevinof on 12/22/2017 10:46 amChris (and the team). there's something on your home page that causes my GPU on my laptop to running endlessly (and then the fans kick in and the heat builds up). Jumps to > 50% usage on page load and then settles down to around 18/20% continuous. This is Chrome on Windows 10. I will try on other browsers and see if it's the same.Do you also see this problem on article pages (any other as the homepage) ?
Just the home page - Forums and everything else are fine. It's related the image loading (and processing) and also you don't seem to be caching them - they re-fetch every time. Once the images have loaded, it settles down to 20% with the odd spike back to 50%+Quote from: NSF Webmaster on 12/22/2017 10:51 amQuote from: kevinof on 12/22/2017 10:46 amChris (and the team). there's something on your home page that causes my GPU on my laptop to running endlessly (and then the fans kick in and the heat builds up). Jumps to > 50% usage on page load and then settles down to around 18/20% continuous. This is Chrome on Windows 10. I will try on other browsers and see if it's the same.Do you also see this problem on article pages (any other as the homepage) ?
Just the home page - Forums and everything else are fine. It's related the image loading (and processing) and also you don't seem to be caching them - they re-fetch every time. Once the images have loaded, it settles down to 20% with the odd spike back to 50%+
Quote from: kevinof on 12/22/2017 10:56 amJust the home page - Forums and everything else are fine. It's related the image loading (and processing) and also you don't seem to be caching them - they re-fetch every time. Once the images have loaded, it settles down to 20% with the odd spike back to 50%+Can you try this again ? I made a quick fix/workaround which seems to drop the load a lot on my machine(s), can you confirm ?Thanks,Mark
That's better. Not perfect but a lot less. Low end is now 4% and top end is 16% (which is a lot better than 50%)Quote from: NSF Webmaster on 12/22/2017 01:05 pmQuote from: kevinof on 12/22/2017 10:56 amJust the home page - Forums and everything else are fine. It's related the image loading (and processing) and also you don't seem to be caching them - they re-fetch every time. Once the images have loaded, it settles down to 20% with the odd spike back to 50%+Can you try this again ? I made a quick fix/workaround which seems to drop the load a lot on my machine(s), can you confirm ?Thanks,Mark
Looks great guys. Fantastic job. Do we get some new merch to buy? Can we still buy the old merch?
Am I missing something, or is there no longer a list of all recent articles?
As an early Christmas present, a small peek on the on the dark-mode development. Please let me know if this is what you are looking for..HomepageArticle
Looks great. Maybe a bit darker margin?
Quote from: WulfTheSaxon on 12/22/2017 10:22 pmLooks great. Maybe a bit darker margin?^^^^^ LOL...I chuckeled at this.....DARKER!!...DARKER!!!.....HAHAHAHAH That dark theme looks nice though. Any way for us to test drive it currently? (different URL)?
As an early Christmas present, a small peek on the on the dark-mode development. Please let me know if this is what you are looking for..
Please don't do that! Or optional so we have a choice? Thanks. PS, Also makes the logo look worse, too. IMHO !Smaller white print on black is hard on these ol'eyes; maybe it just me. If it ain't broke, why fix it? Someone said the forums need a makeover, but I have no trouble with them the way they are. I do get I am in a minority, probably! And I know you all are working very hard for a good result, and regardless, I appreciate that...
Just noticed a spelling error in the browser titlebar when viewing the new homepage.
This might be interesting reading. There is a lot of magic you can do with image caching... if applicable it can reduce the load on your servers as well as the load on everyone's browser... Most NSF images once posted would never change I think? so really long time to lives might work well.https://code.facebook.com/posts/557147474482256/this-browser-tweak-saved-60-of-requests-to-facebook/I don't know (and don't want to know) NSF internals well enough to know if this might apply here but thought I'd toss it out.
Could we also get a pure black option? Pure black backgrounds with white text look amazing on OLED.
A non-computerization question--- When will the NSF merchandise be re-done? Or can we still get the old stuff? I've put on a few pounds and need a larger-size sweatshirt!
Quote from: Eagandale4114 on 12/24/2017 05:23 pmCould we also get a pure black option? Pure black backgrounds with white text look amazing on OLED.Just as long as it isn’t the only dark option, because straight white-on-black looks terrible on CRTs (we’re still out there!).
SpaceX proposed Dragon, a recoverable spacecraft it had already been developing privately,
Instead, SpaceX leased Space Launch Complex 40 at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, demolishing the former Titan IV launch complex
Added it here as it's the right place.Yeah, that's not the fault of the site, more to do with the editor ...
I would like to see a list of articles by date. I don't want to have to search through the the whole page to figure out what articles are new.
OK, quick answers! 1) Hey, I'd be totally cool with L2 members being able to custom remove ads or anything, they've totally earned it...but yeah, as you note the news site and the forum are two different software bases. Not sure if a cookie would do the trick. Only way I could see it working is if you logged in from the news site and went through to the forum *thus the news site would see you as a L2 member*. Maybe for the future, but it's a bit over my head per application.More so for the L2 button as that - and the top bar - are literally like the paint on a wall, as opposed to pictures you can move or remove. [snip]
I’m surprised there isn’t already an L2 indicator in the forum cookie. Getting that in there would be 99% of the work, but I have no idea how SMF handles cookies (might need a mod). Once that’s done, though, getting rid of the L2 link shouldn’t be any harder than stopping the ads: .ltwo {display: none;}
Other to do things:"Contact" is wrong. It links to an e-mail address. Needs to link to the previous "About Us" page with more contact info.
Then we work on bringing the forum software up a notch or three WITHOUT losing familiarity or ease of use. I've seen some sites completely change their forum and you're left shaking your head thinking "Why???" Yes, we have to upgrade, but man that will be a massive community crowdsource and discussion to get it right before we even think about changes.
However, while they still work per working URLs, there's the Search Function, which is far more standard for news sites. That works, but I've noticed new articles I've added since the new site went live going are displaying in full, not in brief (like you see in the front of site). I bet that's literally a line of code Mark needs to refine. Not relevant to the front of site, so it can wait until Mark is back.
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 12/29/2017 11:22 pmThen we work on bringing the forum software up a notch or three WITHOUT losing familiarity or ease of use. I've seen some sites completely change their forum and you're left shaking your head thinking "Why???" Yes, we have to upgrade, but man that will be a massive community crowdsource and discussion to get it right before we even think about changes.Serious question Chris and not a joke from what you wrote above but it is the question I have..........Why?The forums are the absolute best forums I have used anywhere and are using currently. Just curious as to the driving reasons for the bold part above.
Absolutely lovely on all the browsers on all the devices I have (I checked, because there is nothing worse than non-standard rendering of HTML to destroy all your hard work!)
Quote from: Jet Black on 01/04/2018 08:55 amAbsolutely lovely on all the browsers on all the devices I have (I checked, because there is nothing worse than non-standard rendering of HTML to destroy all your hard work!)This made me think to check it on my slowest device. One thing that I noticed is that the images actually load long before the headlines, which is less than ideal.Also the back-to-top button is a bit glitchy – is it really needed?
Quote from: WulfTheSaxon on 01/04/2018 06:52 pmQuote from: Jet Black on 01/04/2018 08:55 amAbsolutely lovely on all the browsers on all the devices I have (I checked, because there is nothing worse than non-standard rendering of HTML to destroy all your hard work!)This made me think to check it on my slowest device. One thing that I noticed is that the images actually load long before the headlines, which is less than ideal.Also the back-to-top button is a bit glitchy – is it really needed?And what system/browser did you have this experience?
A minor problem I've encountered is that for some reason the image captions don't work/show-up for the first picture of an article. They work in all the subsequent ones but never in that headline or lead picture. I'm browsing in Firefox 57.0.3 on Windows 7.
50 second reboost test burn confirmed for the OA-9E Cygnus! First time a US vehicle has conducted a reboost since the Shuttle era!Article:https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/07/cygnus-reboost-conducted-iss/
Am I the only one having trouble getting pages to show up in mobile mode? They come in that way but snap back to desktop half the time. Reloading fixes some but not others. Only on this site and the same with Chrome, Firefox and Brave on my Galaxy S7.
Quote from: Nomadd on 08/28/2018 11:21 pm Am I the only one having trouble getting pages to show up in mobile mode? They come in that way but snap back to desktop half the time. Reloading fixes some but not others. Only on this site and the same with Chrome, Firefox and Brave on my Galaxy S7. I'm not having issues on my G S7.
Anyway we can block political ads from appearing as an ad for example on the main home page? I don't need any Trump swag or MAGA hats and that would be for both sides of the political spectrum Democrat or Republican...Thanks~Rob
Quote from: Rocket Science on 06/10/2019 04:58 pmAnyway we can block political ads from appearing as an ad for example on the main home page? I don't need any Trump swag or MAGA hats and that would be for both sides of the political spectrum Democrat or Republican...Thanks~RobIt's random, no one person gets the same ad, per that one you're talking about and it's supposed to be on topic and based on location etc. So that's very annoying to hear. You should see an "X" where you can note it's inappropriate etc. If all else fails, use Adblocker as you're a L2 member and totally earned no ads on site.This is what I got just now, for example (was looking at new keyboards on Amazon! So that was clever ) Notice the X in the top right?
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 06/10/2019 05:00 pmQuote from: Rocket Science on 06/10/2019 04:58 pmAnyway we can block political ads from appearing as an ad for example on the main home page? I don't need any Trump swag or MAGA hats and that would be for both sides of the political spectrum Democrat or Republican...Thanks~RobIt's random, no one person gets the same ad, per that one you're talking about and it's supposed to be on topic and based on location etc. So that's very annoying to hear. You should see an "X" where you can note it's inappropriate etc. If all else fails, use Adblocker as you're a L2 member and totally earned no ads on site.This is what I got just now, for example (was looking at new keyboards on Amazon! So that was clever ) Notice the X in the top right?Somebody's watching us! Thanks for the quick reply.~Rob