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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #120 on: 12/29/2025 02:48 am »
This accident has dipped the orbital launch count from Baikonur to the lowest since 1959 - only six launches in 2025.

1957-1961:  2-5-4-8-7 launches
1962-2019:  two-digit launch counts
2020-2025:  7-14-7-9-8-6 launches

I would say that this accident is only one of the reasons that Baikonour having its current low launch rate.
Why would you guess that the launch rate only would have been one higher. The lack of foreign payloads coupled with sanctions forced domestic production of all components of which they lack expertise resulting in quality control, learning curves to advance TRL for the domestic industrial base, and satellites products having to be redesigned and modernised to use the domestic hardware they can manufacture with passable quality standards resulted in ongoing gaps in production lines causing a knock on effect. Once they domestically rebound then they can increase launch rates. That is why nearly everything other than ISS flights are continually being bumped to the right from an industry wide perspective. As existing hardware is used up the gap worsens as they deal with mandatory industrial component domestication.

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #121 on: 12/29/2025 06:29 am »
This accident has dipped the orbital launch count from Baikonur to the lowest since 1959 - only six launches in 2025.

1957-1961:  2-5-4-8-7 launches
1962-2019:  two-digit launch counts
2020-2025:  7-14-7-9-8-6 launches

I would say that this accident is only one of the reasons that Baikonour having its current low launch rate.
Why would you guess that the launch rate only would have been one higher. The lack of foreign payloads coupled with sanctions forced domestic production of all components of which they lack expertise resulting in quality control, learning curves to advance TRL for the domestic industrial base, and satellites products having to be redesigned and modernised to use the domestic hardware they can manufacture with passable quality standards resulted in ongoing gaps in production lines causing a knock on effect. Once they domestically rebound then they can increase launch rates. That is why nearly everything other than ISS flights are continually being bumped to the right from an industry wide perspective. As existing hardware is used up the gap worsens as they deal with mandatory industrial component domestication.

And that is their destiny.  They have no one else to blame.  Their are no foreign sats on the launch schedule on any of their rockets: Soyuz, Proton, Angara, Soyuz-5, etc.   Call it the OneWeb debacle.

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #122 on: 01/02/2026 03:53 pm »
https://arstechnica.com/space/2026/01/finally-some-good-news-for-russia-the-space-station-is-no-longer-leaking/

Some news on pad repair from Eric Berger:

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NASA appears confident in pad repairs...

Russia had been targeting a return to flight mission in March 2026. NASA now appears to believe that. The US space agency’s internal schedule, which was recently updated, has the next Progress spacecraft launch set for March 22, followed by another Progress mission on April 26
« Last Edit: 01/02/2026 03:56 pm by mn »

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #123 on: 01/29/2026 05:41 pm »
« Last Edit: 01/29/2026 05:41 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #124 on: 01/30/2026 12:37 am »
Russian Space Web free article:
Roskosmos manager casts doubts on timely repairs of Soyuz pad

Thanks russianhalo117 and thank you Anatoly Zak (anik) for the free article.

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #125 on: 01/30/2026 12:50 am »
Russian Space Web free article:
Roskosmos manager casts doubts on timely repairs of Soyuz pad

The headline casts doubt but the article says
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but he expressed hope that the March 2026 deadline was still achievable

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #126 on: 01/30/2026 06:54 am »
It wouldn't be an Anatoly Zak article unless it has a huge dollop of mandatory pessimism...   ;)

The article strongly infers that the issues are one of some mechanica/ & structural interfaces not being in alignment, so they will need to perform steelwork modifications and on-site remedial coatings.  Not rocket science, excuse the pun. Its about as mundane as it gets,
« Last Edit: 01/30/2026 07:13 am by big_gazza »

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #127 on: 01/30/2026 08:17 am »
It wouldn't be an Anatoly Zak article unless it has a huge dollop of mandatory pessimism...   ;)

The article strongly infers that the issues are one of some mechanica/ & structural interfaces not being in alignment, so they will need to perform steelwork modifications and on-site remedial coatings.  Not rocket science, excuse the pun. Its about as mundane as it gets,
Not inferred. Rather confirmed. The entire shift for that launch incident is under criminal review by the investigating committee. Note that hardware was a different version designed for a different pad and all of the pads are not identical rather similar. Pessimism, rather the Slavic culture, language and way of life that he grew up in with English as a second language.
« Last Edit: 01/30/2026 08:19 am by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #128 on: 01/30/2026 08:44 am »
Thanks russianhalo117 and thank you Anatoly Zak (anik) for the free article.

I am pretty sure that Anatoly Zak and anik are two very different people.

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #129 on: 01/30/2026 03:22 pm »
Russian Space Web free article:
Roskosmos manager casts doubts on timely repairs of Soyuz pad

The headline casts doubt but the article says
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but he expressed hope that the March 2026 deadline was still achievable

To add: The technical problems he cites are real and take time to address, the 'hope' is just a hope, I have no idea who this guy is and his history of coming thru on hopes, so no way of judging if his 'hope' is realistic (at least in his mind) or just pie in the sky to satisfy the official party line.

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #130 on: 01/30/2026 04:32 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/2017271286779564205

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NASA's Dina Contella said Russia's projected March 22 date for the next Progress launch (from a damaged pad in Baikonur) is looking "pretty good." But they're watching the schedule closely.
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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #131 on: 01/30/2026 04:58 pm »
It wouldn't be an Anatoly Zak article unless it has a huge dollop of mandatory pessimism...   ;)

The article strongly infers that the issues are one of some mechanica/ & structural interfaces not being in alignment, so they will need to perform steelwork modifications and on-site remedial coatings.  Not rocket science, excuse the pun. Its about as mundane as it gets,
Not inferred. Rather confirmed. The entire shift for that launch incident is under criminal review by the investigating committee. Note that hardware was a different version designed for a different pad and all of the pads are not identical rather similar. Pessimism, rather the Slavic culture, language and way of life that he grew up in with English as a second language.

Would they be better off giving OneWeb their Sats back and begging for the infrastructure at Kourou?

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Re: Major damage to PU-6 at Baikonur
« Reply #132 on: 01/30/2026 05:11 pm »
It wouldn't be an Anatoly Zak article unless it has a huge dollop of mandatory pessimism...   ;)

The article strongly infers that the issues are one of some mechanica/ & structural interfaces not being in alignment, so they will need to perform steelwork modifications and on-site remedial coatings.  Not rocket science, excuse the pun. Its about as mundane as it gets,
Not inferred. Rather confirmed. The entire shift for that launch incident is under criminal review by the investigating committee. Note that hardware was a different version designed for a different pad and all of the pads are not identical rather similar. Pessimism, rather the Slavic culture, language and way of life that he grew up in with English as a second language.

Would they be better off giving OneWeb their Sats back and begging for the infrastructure at Kourou?
Both boats have sailed. Irreversible removal and conversion operations have already begun by CNES contractors to ELS facilities. At the rate of the current conflict OneWeb's satellites may become life certification expired and they are already written off their forfeiture by Eutelsat OneWeb so their insurance company effectively owns them.
« Last Edit: 01/30/2026 05:13 pm by russianhalo117 »

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