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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #460 on: 04/07/2025 02:50 am »
The backup Artemis II crew are:
- Andre Douglas (1st mission),
- Jennifer Sidey-Gibbons (1st mission, Canada).

In-water training, meanwhile, has been attended by:
- Victor Glover (Artemis II, 2nd mission),
- André Douglas (1st mission),
- Deniz Burnham (1st mission),
- Luca Parmitano (3rd mission, Italy/ESA).

Will these four (because I am not counting Glover assigned to AII) constitute the crew of Artemis III? Or at least part of it?
I understand that only US astronauts will be on Artemis III, but Douglas and Burnham do look like strong contenders.

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #461 on: 04/07/2025 07:21 pm »
LVSA stacked

https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20250403-PH-ILW01_0130

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A massive crane lifts the launch vehicle stage adapter 250 feet into the air on Thursday, April 3, 2025, to prepare integration onto the SLS (Space Launch System) core stage in High Bay 3 inside the Vehicle Assembly Building at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. During launch and ascent, the launch vehicle stage adapter provides structural support and protects avionics and electrical devices within the upper stage from extreme vibrations and acoustic conditions. The Artemis II test flight will take a crew of four astronauts on a 10-day journey around the Moon, helping confirm the foundational systems and hardware needed for human deep space exploration.
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #462 on: 04/08/2025 09:49 pm »
NSF Phillip Sloss Quarterly Update,

NASA Artemis II, III, IV Quarterly Update #5, 2025 First Quarter in Review



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Apr 8, 2025  ✪ Members first on April 4, 2025
Reviewing the work completed by NASA and its Artemis partners during the first quarter of 2025 on preparations and planning for the Artemis II, III, and IV missions.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

Links to social media posts:
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1884700023063024047
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892621691060093254
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892627928921329862
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1895598258225106984

Links to stories referenced:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/key-nasa-officials-departure-casts-more-uncertainty-over-us-moon-program-2025-02-19/


00:00 Intro
00:20 Quarter in review: three major themes
03:54 Artemis II status and outlook
08:00 Artemis III status and (cloudy) outlook
23:52 Artemis IV status and outlook
35:02 Artemis V and beyond
37:15 Thanks for watching!

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #463 on: 04/20/2025 01:05 pm »
NASA Artemis II SLS stacking continues, keeping an eye out for budget request plans



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Apr 20, 2025
Preparations for NASA's Artemis II lunar flyby mission lead this week's recap.  Stacking of the SLS vehicle in the Vehicle Assembly Building at the Kennedy Space Center is almost complete, and the last element to be lifted for a while, the in-space second stage, is now standing in the transfer aisle.

I'll go over that and also continue reviewing last week's budget news, NASA Administrator nomination hearing in the Senate, and where those intersect.  Big picture, if Congress wants to beat China back to the Moon and use Orion and SLS to help do that, then there will be even more focus on when Artemis III can fly...assuming the White House agrees, which remains a big question.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

Links to stories referenced:
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/trump-white-house-budget-proposal-eviscerates-science-funding-at-nasa/
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/isaacmans-golden-age-of-science-discovery-on-shaky-ground/
https://spacenews.com/white-house-proposal-would-slash-nasa-science-budget-and-cancel-major-missions/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/04/11/nasa-science-budget-cuts-trump/
https://spacenews.com/maryland-congressmen-vow-to-block-proposed-nasa-science-budget-cuts/
https://spacenews.com/bipartisan-caucus-criticizes-proposed-nasa-science-budget-cuts/
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-to-slash-nasas-science-budget-by-50-percent/

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00:00 Intro
00:50 Artemis II update, beginning with SLS LVSA hard mate to the Core Stages
03:07 ICPS moves to the VAB for stacking
04:53 Artemis II Orion Stage Adapter seen in Huntsville recently
05:32 Status of Artemis II Orion spacecraft final assembly
07:58 B-roll video released of Artemis II SLS Core Stage lifting and mating activities in March
10:10 Political news and notes, more takeaways from Jared Isaacman's hearing before Congress
23:47 A look at the big picture, all eyes on Artemis III, assuming it isn't cancelled
27:24 What's next in April
28:01 Thanks for watching!
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #464 on: 04/25/2025 10:14 pm »
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18 seconds of peace….wondering about the feelings we will experience 191,000 miles from home.

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #465 on: 04/27/2025 12:16 pm »
Artemis II engine replacement update, does Congress want SLS around for NASA after Artemis III?



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Apr 27, 2025
Soon-to-be NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman was clearer about his views on the future of SLS for Artemis in his confirmation hearing than Senators, and in this video I'll start going through his written responses to questions for the record.  Isaacman is ready to retire SLS after Artemis III, but it's not so clear about Congress, given all the attention on the "one and done" lunar landing race with China.

I'll go through takeaways from questions about the NASA Science budget being crushed, cancellation rumors, and how much influence Elon Musk will retain inside NASA going forward.  While the politics continues to overhang the future, I'll also go through updates on the Artemis II RS-25 engine changeout, Mobile Launcher-2 construction, Boeing SLS production, and some pictures of things that aren't under "double secret ITAR probation."

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

Links to stories referenced:
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/trump-white-house-budget-proposal-eviscerates-science-funding-at-nasa/
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/isaacmans-golden-age-of-science-discovery-on-shaky-ground/
https://spacenews.com/white-house-proposal-would-slash-nasa-science-budget-and-cancel-major-missions/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/04/11/nasa-science-budget-cuts-trump/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2025/04/21/nasa-budget-cuts-trump/83083256007/

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00:00 Intro
01:31 The Artemis II big picture plan to accelerate launch date
06:09 Core Stage RS-25 engine removal and replacement work in progress
07:58 More takeaways from recent news about next NASA Administrator and budget
11:51 Jared Isaacman is ready to move on from SLS, but what about Congress?
16:09 Isaacman responds to more, written questions from Senators for the record
19:26 Boeing provides an SLS production update and NASA provides images to illustrate
29:10 Other news and notes, beginning with the next Mobile Launcher-2 umbilical tower module added
29:46 EUS Green Run test stand preparations update
30:08 An Orion docking module (test article) sighting
32:18 Thanks for watching!
« Last Edit: 04/27/2025 12:16 pm by catdlr »
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #466 on: 04/28/2025 09:57 pm »
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The Artemis II crew is flying through training milestones!

@Astro_Reid and the rest of the team are in the last phase of training: preparing for potential contingencies and learning everything they can about the @NASA_Orion spacecraft.

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1916956259430892023

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #467 on: 05/02/2025 01:01 pm »
NASA Set to Fly South Korean CubeSat on Artemis II Test Flight [May 2]

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NASA and the Korea AeroSpace Administration (KASA) signed an agreement May 2 for KASA to fly a CubeSat on NASA’s Artemis II test flight next year. K-Rad Cube will use a dosimeter made of material designed to mimic human tissue to measure space radiation and assess biological effects at various altitudes across the Van Allen radiation belts, a critical area of research for human presence at the Moon and Mars.

NASA is working with several international space agencies to fly CubeSats on the mission. The collaborations provide opportunities for other countries to work alongside NASA to integrate and fly technology and experiments as part of the agency’s Artemis campaign.

CubeSats are shoebox-sized payloads that are a relatively cost-effective way to potentially expand knowledge of the space environment and enable CubeSat providers to continue to refine development and integration of hardware for missions in space. They will ride to space inside a structural adapter that connects NASA’s Orion spacecraft to the upper stage of the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket and be deployed in high Earth orbit after the upper stage detaches from Orion and the spacecraft is safely flying free on its own a safe distance away from the stage.

NaRaSpace Development Korea Cube Satellite Body, 'Artemis 2' Loaded [May 9, translated]

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According to Naraspace on the 9th, K-RadCube is a 12U (20cm x 20cm x 30cm) cube satellite that will be loaded onto the rocket for the Artemis 2 mission to observe the space radiation environment in the High Elliptical Orbit (HEO). The satellite will be loaded with a scientific payload for radiation measurement developed by the Korea Astronomy and Space Science Institute, and is scheduled to be launched in April next year.
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #468 on: 05/05/2025 08:21 pm »
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Another productive week in the books: The Artemis II astronauts have been hard at work inside the @NASA_Orion simulator, practicing every step of their upcoming voyage around the Moon with the mission control team.

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1919457664012099883

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #469 on: 05/05/2025 08:50 pm »
There was discussion a little while back about accelerating the timeline for Artemis II, what is the status of that?

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #470 on: 05/05/2025 10:32 pm »
(Sorry, I was late. I posted this in the wrong thread.)

Phillip Sloss Report:

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After a week of high-visibility Artemis II milestones, President Trump and Elon Musk released the skinny budget request for Fiscal Year 2026 on Friday, May 3rd, which made official the long-rumored intent to cancel those Artemis programs and more.  In this video, I'll go through the milestones and the initial takeaways from the limited, but key details in the budget request outline.

Now that we have confirmation of the administration's plan, the attention shifts to whether Congress agrees with the Artemis reset.  And while we're waiting for that, there's time to start considering all the implications of the new plans.  I'll also cover an update to Jared Isaacman's nomination and continuing work on Artemis III SLS hardware, which could be the last to fly.

It's official: Trump/Musk move to cancel Artemis programs while NASA continues Artemis II preps




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May 4, 2025

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

Links to articles referenced:
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/space-policy-is-about-to-get-pretty-wild-yall/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/key-nasa-officials-departure-casts-more-uncertainty-over-us-moon-program-2025-02-19/
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/03/white-house-may-seek-to-slash-nasas-science-budget-by-50-percent/
https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-nasa-mars-space-travel-d3978a7b
https://www.legislativeprocedure.com/blog/2025/4/15/how-congress-considers-rescission-bills
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/04/nasa-just-swapped-a-10-year-old-artemis-ii-engine-with-one-nearly-twice-its-age/


"EGS Spacecraft Offline Ops: Getting Orion ready for Artemis II"
Part 1:
   • https://youtube.com/watch?v=a7DaykZLVn8

Part 2:
   • https://youtube.com/watch?v=ccbMc_cOeMg



00:00 Intro
02:08 Lockheed Martin finishes Artemis II Orion assembly, hands spacecraft over to EGS
05:03 Artemis II SLS ICPS stacked after Core Stage engine 4 replacement installed
08:10 Artemis II near-term recap and outlook
09:37 Most Artemis programs terminated in Fiscal Year 2026 budget request
13:28 Boeing moves SLS Core Stage-3 LOX tank to get ready for foam insulation application
15:55 New budget and China race bring more attention to Artemis III program delivery dates
16:20 Will the new commercial Artemis IV be ready to support lunar landing as a backup option?
16:57 Isaacman nomination advances from committee to the full Senate
21:23 Thanks for watching!
« Last Edit: 05/05/2025 10:35 pm by catdlr »
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #471 on: 05/06/2025 08:48 pm »
Preparations for the Artemis II mission are nonetheless underway...

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1919847258238943255

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The @NASA_Orion spacecraft for the Artemis II mission is now in the fueling facility at @NASAKennedy. The @NASAGroundSys teams will load the propellants the spacecraft and crew will need to carry out their 10-day journey. https://go.nasa.gov/3YzrRv8

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #472 on: 05/07/2025 09:11 am »
This has probably been discussed before, but since the launch is, I think months away, is it really necessary to fuel the hypergolic fuels so early?  Of course, I guess the alternative is to roll the thing to the pad, then send it back to the VAB for loading, and then roll back to the pad.
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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #473 on: 05/07/2025 01:07 pm »
Spell check hyper-corrected hypergolic to hyperbolic?

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #474 on: 05/07/2025 01:38 pm »
This has probably been discussed before, but since the launch is, I think months away, is it really necessary to fuel the hyperbolic fuels so early?  Of course, I guess the alternative is to roll the thing to the pad, then send it back to the VAB for loading, and then roll back to the pad.

Does it matter? They're storable, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #475 on: 05/07/2025 02:58 pm »
This has probably been discussed before, but since the launch is, I think months away, is it really necessary to fuel the hyperbolic fuels so early?  Of course, I guess the alternative is to roll the thing to the pad, then send it back to the VAB for loading, and then roll back to the pad.
Does it matter? They're storable, so it shouldn't be much of an issue.
That's what Boeing thought before Starliner OFT-2 (first try). Valve corrosion caused a one-year delay. Hypergolics are long-term storable in proper conditions, but they are nasty corrosive chemicals that can cause problems if something goes even a little bit wrong.

That being said, the Space industry has been using hypergolics since before WWII. They know how to do it correctly.

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #476 on: 05/07/2025 03:11 pm »
And so the Trump/Musk team has to go,,Artemis 2 around the Moon,,,Artemis 3, a landing,,,and then??  Commercial partners to fill in,,,with what????  Orion goes,,presumably Starship, a vehicle yet to achieve orbit. or Blue Origin?  Or do we just let China take the lead, as their Lunar program is well underway in designs under development, with a launch facility being built...Personally I think Space X has accomplished a lot,,but,,clearly this is a decision intended to only help Space X, i.e Elon Musk..and hopefully Congress will not agree to major cuts...I dont want to live under a Red Moon...

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #477 on: 05/07/2025 03:46 pm »
..and hopefully Congress will not agree to major cuts...I dont want to live under a Red Moon...

Neither do I. Therefore, I support the canceling of SLS and Orion, as it is 1: unsustainable. If you have to build a new, 3 billion dollar rocket every time you want to get three people to the moon, you won't go to the moon a lot, and 2: a money sink. Taxpayer dollars are literally being lit on fire and dumped in the ocean
So this is how other people put stuff at the bottom of their posts!

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #478 on: 05/07/2025 06:43 pm »
This has probably been discussed before, but since the launch is, I think months away, is it really necessary to fuel the hyperbolic fuels so early?  Of course, I guess the alternative is to roll the thing to the pad, then send it back to the VAB for loading, and then roll back to the pad.

It can't be done at VAB, too risky.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Payload_Processing_Facility

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Re: Artemis II : Discussion Thread
« Reply #479 on: 05/07/2025 09:51 pm »
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I split/moved the "literally" definition discussion to the party thread, starting here:
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