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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1020 on: 02/05/2020 06:21 pm »

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1021 on: 02/06/2020 03:38 am »
The spacecraft mass is 1700 kg. Mercury ranged from 1286 kg (MR3) to 1376 kg (MA9). I would expect they would do suborbital launches first with Simorgh and then possibly orbital with Sarir. Iran has been looking at various capsule designs since 2013.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1022 on: 02/09/2020 06:33 am »
Upcoming launches. The Iranian calendar starts around 21 March.

"5 satellites will be launched in the name of Pars 1, 2, and Nahid 1, 2 and Zafar next year. We are actually launching in June of next year"

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1039631/%D8%A7%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%AC%D8%B2%DB%8C%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D9%BE%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A8-%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%87-%D8%B8%D9%81%D8%B1-%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%B3%D8%B7-%D9%88%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B7%D8%A7%D8%AA
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1023 on: 02/10/2020 08:36 am »
Salman solid engine with thrust vector control. The test motor has a much smaller nozzle than the first image, indicating that it is used on an upper stage, possibly as the third stage motor for Simorgh.

twitter.com/IribnewsEn/status/1226485694408863744

"A new space rocket engine, Salman, with thrust vectoring control (TVC) capability was also unveiled and tested."
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1024 on: 02/10/2020 08:56 am »
Zafar 2 launching in June.

https://en.irna.ir/news/83668309/Iran-ready-to-launch-next-satellite

"Tehran, Feb 9, IRNA -- Minister of Communications and Information Technology Mohammad Javad Azari-Jahromi said late on Sunday that another copy of Zafar Satellite will be sent to orbit in June."
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1026 on: 02/12/2020 11:14 am »
The spacecraft mass is 1700 kg. Mercury ranged from 1286 kg (MR3) to 1376 kg (MA9). I would expect they would do suborbital launches first with Simorgh and then possibly orbital with Sarir. Iran has been looking at various capsule designs since 2013.

Do you mean "Safir"? (Because it has a payload of only  of a few 10s of kg). Or is it a new rocket they are working on?

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1027 on: 02/12/2020 06:38 pm »
The spacecraft mass is 1700 kg. Mercury ranged from 1286 kg (MR3) to 1376 kg (MA9). I would expect they would do suborbital launches first with Simorgh and then possibly orbital with Sarir. Iran has been looking at various capsule designs since 2013.

Do you mean "Safir"? (Because it has a payload of only  of a few 10s of kg). Or is it a new rocket they are working on?

Sarir is Iran's third generation SLV which was unveiled about a week ago. It consists of the simorgh first stage but with improved second and third stages. It is supposed to be able to place at least 1500 kg into LEO so it is a strong contender for a suborbital human space mission.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1028 on: 09/27/2020 10:05 pm »
New typ e of Iranian SLV

A 1:100 model of the launch site at Khomeini space center. Note UNKNOWN SLV.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1029 on: 09/28/2020 07:42 am »
Perhaps a Simorgh with a larger liquid second stage, a solid third stage and a larger fairing.

Can anyone translate the label at the bottom right?
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1030 on: 09/30/2020 05:35 pm »
Perhaps a Simorgh with a larger liquid second stage, a solid third stage and a larger fairing.

Can anyone translate the label at the bottom right?
I read it as
پايگاه  پرتاب فضایی
«سايت تاکتيک»
which translates as:
Space launch station
"Tactical site"


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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1031 on: 01/25/2021 12:48 am »
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In order to implement the comprehensive document on the development of the country's aerospace, the Aerospace Research Institute has succeeded in building a bio-capsule engineering model, which will be delivered to the space agency by the end of February and its flight sample will be ready for launch by June next year.

According to this plan, the first Iranian capsule could fly in less than 6 months. Pretty impressive.

https://twitter.com/barari_ir/status/1353260686990860288

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1032 on: 01/25/2021 06:55 am »
Here's the image from the tweet. Assuming a capsule diameter of 2 m (as given in a published drawing of the capsule) and performing some measurements of the drawing below, I get a diameter of 1.3 m for the base of the adaptor. This indicates a suborbital launch on Safir-1B, which has a diameter of 1.25 m.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1033 on: 02/24/2021 08:32 am »
First flight of Iran's prototype sub orbital man rated capsule will be on a Qadr/Shahab 3 missile as the booster, and NO escape system. The flight will be unmanned.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1034 on: 06/24/2021 09:24 am »
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/22/politics/iran-failed-satellite-launch/index.html

CNN quotes Pentagon officials as saying that an Iranian satellite launch attempt on June 12 ended in failure. Commercial satellite imagery indicates preparations are being made for another satellite launch attempt in the near future.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1035 on: 06/24/2021 09:26 am »
More on the Russian remote sensing satellite for Iran.

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4199/1

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1036 on: 11/29/2021 07:04 am »
So on Nov 26 Iranian President Raisi visited a space technology exhibition. Apart from the space launch center mockup, a wall was pictured with the list of Iran Space Industries Group, part of Iran Electronics Industries (SAIRAN), space projects. There were, right to left:

1. ZS3, mass of 60 kg, 2000. No launch vehicle listed -- wasn't launched.
2. Sina, 170 kg, 2005, Cosmos 3M, Russian-launched.
3. Omid, 20 kg, 2009, Safir-1A.
4. Fajr, 80 kg, 2012-2015. Name of launch vehicle isn't visible but we know it was Safir-1B. Five (!) launches, the last one successful.
5. Tolou-1, mass not visible, 2017, Si[morgh] launch vehicle. So -- launched once, unsuccessful.
6. Kiasat-1, 55 kg, 2019, Safir-1B. An unknown project with one unsuccessful launch.
7. Unknown spacecraft K... with a launch vehicle Z... Also a miracle.
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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1037 on: 11/29/2021 10:03 am »

4. Fajr, 80 kg, 2012-2015. Name of launch vehicle isn't visible but we know it was Safir-1B. Five (!) launches, the last one successful.

Concerning Fajr: i think this means 5 satellites were built, not necessarily that all 5 were launched. Compare this to ZS3, which also has a date, but was not launched.

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1038 on: 11/29/2021 10:36 am »
7. Unknown spacecraft K... with a launch vehicle Z... Also a miracle.

The Z... launch vehicle may be Zoljanah

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau/zoljanah.htm

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Re: Iranian Space
« Reply #1039 on: 11/30/2021 04:35 am »
6. Kiasat-1, 55 kg, 2019, Safir-1B. An unknown project with one unsuccessful launch.

Haven't heard of this one before. The two Safir IB launches in 2019 were supposed to have carried Dousti 1 and Nahid 1. Was there a third Safir IB launch or is there a payload mixup?

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_det/safir-1b.htm
« Last Edit: 11/30/2021 04:47 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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