Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-16 (Dragon SpX-16) : December 5, 2018 - DISCUSSION  (Read 219948 times)

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Do you think this will be on a new or reused booster ?

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Do you think this will be on a new or reused booster ?

As of right now, there aren't any sources saying whether a new or flight-proven booster will be used.
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Are there any obvious manifest changes for a mission likely to be in the window when Soyuz is still down?

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Are there any obvious manifest changes for a mission likely to be in the window when Soyuz is still down?

More importantly is there any point in sending Dragon up to a station that may need to be abandoned a week later?
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Are there any obvious manifest changes for a mission likely to be in the window when Soyuz is still down?

More importantly is there any point in sending Dragon up to a station that may need to be abandoned a week later?

More like a month later. Why not stock up for future crews? Anyway, there are other options than leaving ISS without a crew. For example, send up the next Progress as a test. Even if there is still doubt after a successful Progress flight, send the next Soyuz without crew so the current crew can stay for another six months.

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Are there any obvious manifest changes for a mission likely to be in the window when Soyuz is still down?

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It looks like SpX-16 is now in December.
https://twitter.com/TristanPrejean/status/1053366248590004224
Has to because NG-10 will be berthed N1N and HTV-7 is currently N2N. Unless they relocate PMA3 to N3 or Z1 there is no room until HTV-7 leaves.

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Has to because NG-10 will be berthed N1N and HTV-7 is currently N2N. Unless they relocate PMA3 to N3 or Z1 there is no room until HTV-7 leaves.

Couldn't HTV-7 leave before Nov. 27?  Its planned duration was just under 2 months.  (I really wouldn't be surprised if CRS-16 slipped a little, just not sure that HTV-7 would be the reason.)
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Has to because NG-10 will be berthed N1N and HTV-7 is currently N2N. Unless they relocate PMA3 to N3 or Z1 there is no room until HTV-7 leaves.

Couldn't HTV-7 leave before Nov. 27?  Its planned duration was just under 2 months.  (I really wouldn't be surprised if CRS-16 slipped a little, just not sure that HTV-7 would be the reason.)

They have to change the batteries on the solar panels so they need HTV-7 at the station for that. However, they also need more people trained on EVA's to do them, so maybe HTV-7 will stay longer until Soyuz MS-11 flies to the ISS. I would just unberth HTV-7 and let it free fly for a month or two until CRS-16 has left the station... but obviously I'm not the one making decisions and I could totally be wrong.

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Has to because NG-10 will be berthed N1N and HTV-7 is currently N2N. Unless they relocate PMA3 to N3 or Z1 there is no room until HTV-7 leaves.

Couldn't HTV-7 leave before Nov. 27?  Its planned duration was just under 2 months.  (I really wouldn't be surprised if CRS-16 slipped a little, just not sure that HTV-7 would be the reason.)

They have to change the batteries on the solar panels so they need HTV-7 at the station for that. However, they also need more people trained on EVA's to do them, so maybe HTV-7 will stay longer until Soyuz MS-11 flies to the ISS. I would just unberth HTV-7 and let it free fly for a month or two until CRS-16 has left the station... but obviously I'm not the one making decisions and I could totally be wrong.

I had the same question about HTV departing and "station-keeping" with the ISS until after the battery replacement EVA's were completed, then returning and berthing so the replaced batteries could be stowed externally.

I cross-posted in the US EVA-52 and HTV-7 threads.

I hadn't gotten an answer yet.
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There was an information by anik in the NK forum about the possibility, that HTV-7 will leave the ISS when the US EVAs are performed.
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If I understand correctly, in the case of the US exits in December, the HTV-7 should leave after them.
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12565/message1808190/#message1808190

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Has to because NG-10 will be berthed N1N and HTV-7 is currently N2N. Unless they relocate PMA3 to N3 or Z1 there is no room until HTV-7 leaves.

Couldn't HTV-7 leave before Nov. 27?  Its planned duration was just under 2 months.  (I really wouldn't be surprised if CRS-16 slipped a little, just not sure that HTV-7 would be the reason.)

They have to change the batteries on the solar panels so they need HTV-7 at the station for that. However, they also need more people trained on EVA's to do them, so maybe HTV-7 will stay longer until Soyuz MS-11 flies to the ISS. I would just unberth HTV-7 and let it free fly for a month or two until CRS-16 has left the station... but obviously I'm not the one making decisions and I could totally be wrong.
Certified solo flight of 5 days docked, 45 days and stand by 7 days. Contingency loitering capability is unknown but I do recall that HTV onboard battery lifetime was a contributing factor in the numbers above.
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Cross-post re: delay of launch to December:
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Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the next Dragon resupply mission to the ISS, CRS-16, on December
at the earliest.
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
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There was an information by anik in the NK forum about the possibility, that HTV-7 will leave the ISS when the US EVAs are performed.
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If I understand correctly, in the case of the US exits in December, the HTV-7 should leave after them.
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12565/message1808190/#message1808190
The above information is not correct.
https://blogs.nasa.gov/spacestation/2018/10/23/station-preps-for-japan-us-ship-operations-next-month/
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The packed HTV-7 is due to be removed from the Harmony module with the Canadarm2 and released back into Earth orbit in November.

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Iridium and NASA just learned that TechEdSat-8 has been added to the launch manifest for SpaceX-16, which is scheduled to be launched on December 1, 2018
The question is now, only TechEdSat-8 or all ELaNa-21 satellites?
Are there any news to this topic?

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