Quote from: marsbase on 02/19/2019 12:50 ame. The State of Texas discovers a need to expand Boca Chica State Park. Houses are added to the Park for that very public purpose, thus solving the problem SpaceX was having with vaporizing civilians.Nobody is vaporizing anyone. If the village was such a big problem SpaceX wouldn't be allowed to launch F9 or FH there.
e. The State of Texas discovers a need to expand Boca Chica State Park. Houses are added to the Park for that very public purpose, thus solving the problem SpaceX was having with vaporizing civilians.
Quote from: envy887 on 02/19/2019 11:00 pmQuote from: marsbase on 02/19/2019 12:50 ame. The State of Texas discovers a need to expand Boca Chica State Park. Houses are added to the Park for that very public purpose, thus solving the problem SpaceX was having with vaporizing civilians.Nobody is vaporizing anyone. If the village was such a big problem SpaceX wouldn't be allowed to launch F9 or FH there. If I wanted to worry about gasifying, I'd worry about the big LNG plants going in several miles away.
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... now that SpaceX is serious about building both stages at Boca Chica and sending the raptor engines over...
However, a "SpaceX South Texas build site" could mean many things. Among them, a facility along the Port of Brownsville channel, allowing BFR to be shipped to any location in the world, including an offshore pad near Boca Chica.
Quote from: Dave G on 02/20/2019 09:19 amHowever, a "SpaceX South Texas build site" could mean many things. Among them, a facility along the Port of Brownsville channel, allowing BFR to be shipped to any location in the world, including an offshore pad near Boca Chica.I found this argument about a possible Port of Bronswille facility in multiple threads/posts, but without any facts or evidence. For whom are interested in data digging the Port Comission meeting agendas are public and I haven't found a single clue about a possible lease to any of the known SpaceX subsidiaries. Also who are interested in this is a searchable GIS map of Cameron County, in which you can find all the Boca Chica real estate (to Dogleg Park LLC) but nothing else nearby.The missing evidence is not a proof against that there will be another facility in Brownswille or nearby, but in this case I think it is a quite strong hypothesis. However, the map and the agendas are quite detailed, so somebody may find something in them. Happy digging.[Edit: spelling and formatting]
.....The first orbital launch of BFR may use an off shore launch pad. That came from Elon himself.And we now have evidence that Starship and Super Heavy will be built at a new "SpaceX South Texas build site". This came from SpaceX job postings.If the new SpaceX South Texas build site is located in Boca Chica, it would be a lot more difficult to get BFR/BFS to an off shore launch pad. So one logical possibility is that the "SpaceX South Texas build site" is located along a shipping lane.As for the online Cameron County real estate map, if you look at my posts on this thread over the past 7 years, you'll know I'm very familiar with this site. The problem here is that this site is being updated much more slowly than it used to be. For example, after Nomadd verified that SpaceX purchased the big LBJ house, it took 1-2 years before that fact was reflected in the online map. So searching this map now won't give an accurate indication of whether or not SpaceX has purchased any property recently. In addition, SpaceX has purchased lots in Boca Chica under other names than "Dogleg Park LLC". For example, some lots were purchased under the name "The Flats at Mars Crossing LLC".Another issue with locating the new "SpaceX South Texas build site" in Boca Chica - since everyone knows about this site, many real estate speculators have purchased lots there, most likely hoping to get a high price from SpaceX for this land. You can see this reflected on the online map. For the current BFH construction area, many of the lots around this area have been sold within the last 3-5 years to companies that seem to specialize in real estate speculation. So building a facility large enough to manufacture BFR could be problematic.
Someone else may chime in, but in some areas of America, more rural areas may not even have permitting. Farmers or ranchers can throw up a barn or tractor shed without permitting, so putting up a building may not be a problem. Don't know about Boca Chica. Brownsville is a few kilometers to the west of Boca Chica launch site. An offshore platform also if outside US controlled waterways will may not need permitting.
Eduardo A. Campirano, port director and CEO of the Port of Brownsville, says he would not be surprised to see Elon Musk announce even bigger plans for SpaceX’s rocket-launching site at Boca Chica.Campirano was asked to give an update on SpaceX’s plans for Boca Chica when chairing a Rio South Texas Economic Council meeting earlier this week.
Someone else may chime in, but in some areas of America, more rural areas may not even have permitting...
Quote from: enbandi on 02/20/2019 09:51 amQuote from: Dave G on 02/20/2019 09:19 amHowever, a "SpaceX South Texas build site" could mean many things. Among them, a facility along the Port of Brownsville channel, allowing BFR to be shipped to any location in the world, including an offshore pad near Boca Chica.I found this argument about a possible Port of Bronswille facility in multiple threads/posts, but without any facts or evidence. For whom are interested in data digging the Port Comission meeting agendas are public and I haven't found a single clue about a possible lease to any of the known SpaceX subsidiaries. Also who are interested in this is a searchable GIS map of Cameron County, in which you can find all the Boca Chica real estate (to Dogleg Park LLC) but nothing else nearby.The missing evidence is not a proof against that there will be another facility in Brownswille or nearby, but in this case I think it is a quite strong hypothesis. However, the map and the agendas are quite detailed, so somebody may find something in them. Happy digging.[Edit: spelling and formatting]The first orbital launch of BFR may use an off shore launch pad. That came from Elon himself.And we now have evidence that Starship and Super Heavy will be built at a new "SpaceX South Texas build site". This came from SpaceX job postings.If the new SpaceX South Texas build site is located in Boca Chica, it would be a lot more difficult to get BFR/BFS to an off shore launch pad. So one logical possibility is that the "SpaceX South Texas build site" is located along a shipping lane.Snip...
Unless they can fly them there? I assume a Starship or Superheavy could be built at some sort of facility near Boca Chica given a small amount of propellant, launched on just three engines, flown out to sea and then landed on the platform.Seems like an odd way of doing it, but after recent events nothing would suprise me. Obviously this is just speculation but are there any obvious show stoppers to doing this?
Quote from: Slarty1080 on 02/20/2019 05:00 pmUnless they can fly them there? I assume a Starship or Superheavy could be built at some sort of facility near Boca Chica given a small amount of propellant, launched on just three engines, flown out to sea and then landed on the platform.Seems like an odd way of doing it, but after recent events nothing would suprise me. Obviously this is just speculation but are there any obvious show stoppers to doing this?It seems perfectly normal to me.You build a car. Drive it out of the factory.You build an airplane. They don't truck it to an airfield?Build a spaceship fly it with reduced engines and thrust to where the massive propellant and thrust will be used.I think we may see the full SS/SH built right here with just a tent.I think they may build the tent closer to the current launch site.Right now if they light up 3 raptors on the BFH doesn't nommads house go kabloomy?Why move a 100 ton rocket with trucks if it can transport itself.
Quote from: rsdavis9 on 02/20/2019 05:31 pmQuote from: Slarty1080 on 02/20/2019 05:00 pmUnless they can fly them there? I assume a Starship or Superheavy could be built at some sort of facility near Boca Chica given a small amount of propellant, launched on just three engines, flown out to sea and then landed on the platform.Seems like an odd way of doing it, but after recent events nothing would suprise me. Obviously this is just speculation but are there any obvious show stoppers to doing this?It seems perfectly normal to me.You build a car. Drive it out of the factory.You build an airplane. They don't truck it to an airfield?Build a spaceship fly it with reduced engines and thrust to where the massive propellant and thrust will be used.I think we may see the full SS/SH built right here with just a tent.I think they may build the tent closer to the current launch site.Right now if they light up 3 raptors on the BFH doesn't nommads house go kabloomy?Why move a 100 ton rocket with trucks if it can transport itself.Perhaps your right. But whatever they are going to do, be it build a building, tent or sea platform they need to get on with it soon!