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I've removed my topology maps from NASAspaceflight, most likely I'll add them to Wikipedia.Let's explain why in this post (that most probably will be removed). In my opinion NASAspaceflight has not been a pleasant forum to participate; for two reasons.1) I've experienced many times that posts were removed, without getting a reason from the moderator. 2) Many users of the forum have negative sentiment towards non-reusable rockets, or everything other than SpaceX.Last Friday I wrote a long informative post in the Ariane 6 discussion topic. Saturday that post was gone. Most likely the reason it was removed was roughly the following remark: (String appears to be a hobby of the French).Someone replied to it that he didn't like that remark, and probably reported it later. The moderator could have removed the comment, because it was a side comment in my long informative post. But instead the whole post was removed. Along with the post with the complaint. Without explanation PM so I couldn't learn from my mistake, to prevent it happening again.I've reported to the moderating team that I didn't like that they removed the post. Without explaining why. But I didn't get a reply from them. Saturday I've witten a reply in the Ariane 6 discussion topic again, that was on topic. Already for years I don't share information on NSF because you'll get a lot of negative replies. And you have the chance that you're post is removed. Thus possibly updates about Ariane6 qualification aren't shared.I was upset so wrote it more negative than here. So I reported it myself to the moderating team.It didn't surprise me that that post was removed. That made me decide to remove a lot of my posts from NSF.Sorry, I don't see the point any longer writing a post on NSF, because it's very likely to be removed. I'll search for another forum or media to share the info I find and discuss space related stuff. I'm very sure the practice of very easily removing a post has scared more users away. I'm another that can be added to that list.
I tought too have read someting about two ZSR being brought up by STS-131. Can any one confirm this?
Yes, two ZSRs were brought up on STS-131 - one went to JLP1A1 and the other went to LAB1P4.As I understand it, ZSRs are mounted over the top of other racks using standard ISS seat track (but I'm not 100% sure). So you might need to show 2 racks in 1 bay on your plan.
Quote from: Space Pete on 04/26/2010 01:00 amYes, two ZSRs were brought up on STS-131 - one went to JLP1A1 and the other went to LAB1P4.As I understand it, ZSRs are mounted over the top of other racks using standard ISS seat track (but I'm not 100% sure). So you might need to show 2 racks in 1 bay on your plan. ZSR take the place of racks, they are not on the front of racks.
Quote from: Jim on 04/26/2010 01:20 amQuote from: Space Pete on 04/26/2010 01:00 amYes, two ZSRs were brought up on STS-131 - one went to JLP1A1 and the other went to LAB1P4.As I understand it, ZSRs are mounted over the top of other racks using standard ISS seat track (but I'm not 100% sure). So you might need to show 2 racks in 1 bay on your plan. ZSR take the place of racks, they are not on the front of racks.Pete I think you confused it with their launch configuration. They are launched folded up and placed in front of another rack in the MPLM but in that configuration they can't support any storage and they are folded into the onn-orbit configuration once installed in ISS. There was a operations check-list for this in one of the flight data files for STS-131.
Is there any similar layout document for Zvesda/Zaryz/Pirs/PoisK? I know it doesn't have racks like the US side, but maybe something showing where experiments are currently?
I've been away for a while, and they starting to move some racks again.So I thought that it would be nice when I added a new configuration.The changes in the last couple of months are: - Swap ARS system racks form Node 3 to US LAB and back again. - Confugure MAR-ES - Move CQ-3 (Crue Quater-3) from JPM D3 (Kibo deck 3) to Node 2 D5The CHeCS RSR rack is going to be moved fron LAB O5 to Lab D4For the new drawing, see the PDF-files at the first post.
For the nodes that include two rings of racks, was there a reason the rings needed to be side by side? Could the CBMs have been centered between the two rack rings? (See attached.)
I've been away for a while, and they starting to move some racks again.So I thought that it would be nice when I added a new configuration.For the new drawing, see the PDF-files at the first post.
MSG will be moved from COL1F2 to LAB1S2 on 21/10.In preparation for this, MELFI-2 was moved from LAB1S2 to LAB1S1 today.
Quote from: Space Pete on 10/18/2010 09:27 pmMSG will be moved from COL1F2 to LAB1S2 on 21/10.In preparation for this, MELFI-2 was moved from LAB1S2 to LAB1S1 today.I will change this in the drawings; but does anybody know why they are moving MSG? It doesn't make sence to me, because MSG is located in COL1F2 in all the Topologies i've seen. As in this Nasa document http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/296699main_R.%20Jones.pdfBut in this topology TESS (temp. sleep station) is stil present.Nasa has posted the expedition 25/26 press documentseveral days ago (finaly). Lots of interesting information in there, assecionaly about HTV-2. There only isn't a rack topology in there .Here I will summerise the things that will change during expeditions 25 and 26.STS-133: Express-4 (outside ORU/ experiment platform)- addition PMM module on Node 1 Deck,- add R2(Robonat) (From what I heared) in front of Lab Starbord 5 (will be placed there later)- And I think also Expr-8 will be brought up to be placed at JPM A(ft)5.Inside Expr-8 will be BXF (Boiling Experiment Facility)Can somebody verify this? It isn't mentioned in the press document.STS-134 only outside elements and ORU's for the rack's will be delivered.Express-3 and AMS HTV-2: Will bring up two US outside experiments for JPM-EFand for the inside: - Kabiro with GHF (Gardient Heating Furnace) JPM F(orwerd) 3 - MPSR (Multi-Purpose Small payload Rack) JPM A(ft) 4.I will add the new topology's in a few day's
The PMM will accommodate eight racks in total – four Zero-G Stowage Racks (ZSRs) and four Resupply Stowage Racks (RSRs).Each set of four racks will be arranged in a circumferential fashion around the module. Eight rack bays will be left unoccupied, able to be filled by “soft stowage” such as Cargo Transfer Bags (CTBs). This extra stowage space will greatly increase the amount of stowage that can be accommodated on ISS in the post-Shuttle era, without occupying any space in the laboratory modules.
I als found out what is going In COL F2 (MSG's old place), In ESA's Bulitin from August Esa presents their ideas for reducing costs relating to the ISS-life-extention. On Page 16 to 20 of the document ESA shows their plans for an Advanced Closed Loop System (ACLS) Rack, this rack will regenerate oxygen from CO2 (somewhat like Sabatier). Their is a Technical MoU (agreement) signed by ESA and Nasa. It will be placed in Columbus in one of Nasa's Active rack positions.
A description of PMM rack configurations is in my HTV-2 article:www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/10/iss-prepares-busy-upcoming-year-logistics-operationsQuoteThe PMM will accommodate eight racks in total – four Zero-G Stowage Racks (ZSRs) and four Resupply Stowage Racks (RSRs).Each set of four racks will be arranged in a circumferential fashion around the module. Eight rack bays will be left unoccupied, able to be filled by “soft stowage” such as Cargo Transfer Bags (CTBs). This extra stowage space will greatly increase the amount of stowage that can be accommodated on ISS in the post-Shuttle era, without occupying any space in the laboratory modules.
Quote from: Space Pete on 10/21/2010 12:52 amA description of PMM rack configurations is in my HTV-2 article:www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/10/iss-prepares-busy-upcoming-year-logistics-operationsQuoteThe PMM will accommodate eight racks in total – four Zero-G Stowage Racks (ZSRs) and four Resupply Stowage Racks (RSRs).Each set of four racks will be arranged in a circumferential fashion around the module. Eight rack bays will be left unoccupied, able to be filled by “soft stowage” such as Cargo Transfer Bags (CTBs). This extra stowage space will greatly increase the amount of stowage that can be accommodated on ISS in the post-Shuttle era, without occupying any space in the laboratory modules.I've added this to the topology's. In the STS133 mission overview breefing nasa showed the Rack-topology of PMM inside the shuttles payload-bay, and via the PMM burthing simulation (also showed during the presentation) I figured out that PMM would be turned 90 deg. clockwise around the z-axis and than berthed to node1 (Unity). And last, I made the on orbit configuration of PMM docked to the ISS.During or shortly after STS-133 the cruemembers will move ER-8 (Expr-8) to LAB P(ort) 4, and they will configure R2D2 (robonaut) in the LAB as Space Pete told explained several replies back.
I've changed and added some topology'sI'm not sure if the PMM layout is correct.I've also atteched the building file I use to make the topology's, so others can modify the drawings. But be sure the changes u make are correct!! please.
Quote from: Rik ISS-fan on 04/16/2011 03:32 pmI've changed and added some topology'sI'm not sure if the PMM layout is correct.I've also atteched the building file I use to make the topology's, so others can modify the drawings. But be sure the changes u make are correct!! please. The current config is good! As for the assembly complete config, I don't know whether the TCS rack is still planned for the JPM - I think all TCS components are already present in the JPM. Also, the post STS-133 config should include Kobairo and the MSPR, since they were installed prior to STS-133.
This is a really great resource, thanks for putting it together. Hope we can fill in some of the missing SE numbers!
[...]In response to a question, the last published (i.e. by NASA) rack topology diagram I am aware of is in the Expedition 23/24 press kit - since then NASA have not published any (to my knowledge).
So I'm working on an updated rack topology diagram following the HTV-5 rack transfers.Changes to the most recent topology diagram (posted below) are as follows:. MSPR-2 to JPM1F2. Galley rack to NOD1P4The ZSR that was previously located at NOD1P4 I presume has now gone to the PMM, but I don't know to which bay. Also at least one RSP has been removed from the PMM for disposal via HTV, but again I don't know which bay it came from. As such I now have no idea as to the rack configuration of the PMM, so I may have to omit it from a future topology diagram.Is anyone else aware of any other changes in rack topology since the last diagram that are not listed above?
Very pretty Space Pete. And interesting. But sooo many TLAs.Could look them up if there were more hours in a day but, given that you reissue this from time to time, would be much better if you could find a way to include a list of definitions. Perhaps move the colour key to the left to make a space? A smaller font would be fine. Also, an explanation of SDPO, OADF, etc.Just my 2p worth.
Added with reply #15 (page1) is a document called Rack SE, this explains the abreviations a bit. I will update that document.I've added the document. A lot of information is from the txt. document Jonatan made a couple of years ago. So I should thank him for his work back than. @SpacePete If you want to add the NSS logo and claim the autor rights it's fine by me. I couldn't have made this without NSS. I've also added a small document that just explains the abreviations
As announced I've made a Excel file with the ISS rack topology. But now I also want to include:- the Class 2 facilities, aka, the payloads inside the EXPRESS rack's, EDR, MSPR's, MSG.- External payloads.- Launches: what goes up and comes down.This is a first rough release. (It needs some improvements)Feel free to suggest improvements. And feel free to modify the document and use it (or parts of it).In my opinion this document couldn't have been created without the NSF community. So NSF has the author rights.
Rack Swap in US Lab: The crew swapped the Zero-G Stowage Rack (ZSR) in the LAB1O5 location with the Crew Health Care System (CheCS) Rack in the LAB1D4 location. This swap was in preparation for a new Water Storage System (WSS) to be built into the ZSR later next year. During the swap, the CheCS Rack needed to be temporarily moved to Node 1. A Hatch Seal inspection was performed for the Node 1 Forward and the Lab Aft hatches following the transfer the activities. The Hatch Seal inspections are required to verify no damage following the transfer of the CHeCS rack through these hatches to perform the rack swap.
ISS Daily Summary Report – 1/29/2018Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM) rack moves: In order to increase efficiency in the PMM, today the crew moved several stowage racks inside the PMM. The crew moved a Zero-G Stowage Rack (ZSR) and Resupply Stowage Platform (RSP), allowing easier accessibility to the stowage in these racks.
HTV-7 will also bring 6x Li-Ion batteries to the ISS as replacement for 12 old ones.I wonder where they plan to place the HTV ULC (Unpressurised Logistics Carrier).
I'm finding it interesting there are rack topology enthusiasts that do this for fun. From 1994 to 2002 it was my team's full time job doing this (VIPER). First it was just me and eventually they created an entire organization to manage cargo and stowage. Most of the terminology you see here we created that from scratch. If there are any questions about why things were done the way they were in the past I probably know why. I haven't kept up with the current configuration, too busy building spacesuits. Cheers. Jonathan Miller
ISS Daily Status report 10/21/2019 linkQuoteResupply Stowage Rack (RSR) Transfer to HII Transfer Vehicle (HTV)8: Today, the crew continued with HTV8 cargo transfer operations and transferred the first of three racks that will be disposed with HTV8 at the completion of its mission. This week the crew will continue to focus on HTV8 cargo operations in preparation for HTV8 close out and departure late next week.Today’s Planned Activities:Structures and Mechanisms PMM1O1 Resupply Stowage Rack TransferISS Daily Status report 10/23/2019 linkQuoteHII Transfer Vehicle (HTV)-8 Cargo Operations and ISS Outfitting: This week, the crew will continue to focus on HTV8 cargo operations in preparation for HTV8 close out and departure late next week. This included performing a stowage rack swap that moved two Resupply Stowage Platforms (RSP) and a Resupply Stowage Rack (RSR) from the ISS Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM) to the HTV vehicle in exchange for the installation of two Zero-G Stowage Racks (ZSR) shells in the PMM. This reconfiguration of the PMM will increase overall stowage capacity and volume efficiency in the PMM than the previous configuration.Node 1 Galley Rack: Early yesterday morning, the Node 1 Galley Rack experienced an electrical power overcurrent event. Therefore, due to issues with the Node 1 Galley Rack power draw, ground teams worked with the crew to relocate the Potable Water Dispenser (PWD) from the Node 1 Galley Rack to Express Rack 8 in the US Lab. In addition, the crew’s food warmer was moved from the Russian Segment to Node 1. While ground teams continue to troubleshoot the Node 1 Galley Rack overcurrent event, the relocations allow the crew to keep using the PWD and the food warmer.Today’s Planned Activities:Structures and Mechanisms Permanent Multipurpose Module Deck 2 Zero-G Stowage Rack Installation.Structures and Mechanisms Permanent Multipurpose Module Starboard 2 Resupply Stowage Platform Transfer.ISS Daily Status report 10/24/2019: LinkQuoteLook Ahead: Friday, 10/25 (GMT 298)S&M PMM1S2 ZSR InstallToday’s Planned Activities:Mass Measurement Device Hardware Setup in Support of VEG-04BISS Daily Status report 10/28/2019: linkQuoteHTV8 Unberth/ISS Outfitting: In preparation for the HTV8 Unberth on November 1, the crew completed the transfer of the final Resupply Stowage Platform (RSP) Rack from the Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM) Starboard 3 location to HTV8S2 aisle-way location. Resupply Stowage Platforms (RSP) removed from the PMM and replaced with new stowage racks will enable improved stowage efficiency.So now we know where the RSR and two RSP's came from and where the two ZSR's went to. The new current topology. I'm uncertain if mares is still stowed inside PMM of if it has been deorbited.Edit to add: I've also made a pole for the frequency the topology has to be updated.
Resupply Stowage Rack (RSR) Transfer to HII Transfer Vehicle (HTV)8: Today, the crew continued with HTV8 cargo transfer operations and transferred the first of three racks that will be disposed with HTV8 at the completion of its mission. This week the crew will continue to focus on HTV8 cargo operations in preparation for HTV8 close out and departure late next week.Today’s Planned Activities:Structures and Mechanisms PMM1O1 Resupply Stowage Rack Transfer
HII Transfer Vehicle (HTV)-8 Cargo Operations and ISS Outfitting: This week, the crew will continue to focus on HTV8 cargo operations in preparation for HTV8 close out and departure late next week. This included performing a stowage rack swap that moved two Resupply Stowage Platforms (RSP) and a Resupply Stowage Rack (RSR) from the ISS Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM) to the HTV vehicle in exchange for the installation of two Zero-G Stowage Racks (ZSR) shells in the PMM. This reconfiguration of the PMM will increase overall stowage capacity and volume efficiency in the PMM than the previous configuration.Node 1 Galley Rack: Early yesterday morning, the Node 1 Galley Rack experienced an electrical power overcurrent event. Therefore, due to issues with the Node 1 Galley Rack power draw, ground teams worked with the crew to relocate the Potable Water Dispenser (PWD) from the Node 1 Galley Rack to Express Rack 8 in the US Lab. In addition, the crew’s food warmer was moved from the Russian Segment to Node 1. While ground teams continue to troubleshoot the Node 1 Galley Rack overcurrent event, the relocations allow the crew to keep using the PWD and the food warmer.Today’s Planned Activities:Structures and Mechanisms Permanent Multipurpose Module Deck 2 Zero-G Stowage Rack Installation.Structures and Mechanisms Permanent Multipurpose Module Starboard 2 Resupply Stowage Platform Transfer.
Look Ahead: Friday, 10/25 (GMT 298)S&M PMM1S2 ZSR InstallToday’s Planned Activities:Mass Measurement Device Hardware Setup in Support of VEG-04B
HTV8 Unberth/ISS Outfitting: In preparation for the HTV8 Unberth on November 1, the crew completed the transfer of the final Resupply Stowage Platform (RSP) Rack from the Permanent Multipurpose Module (PMM) Starboard 3 location to HTV8S2 aisle-way location. Resupply Stowage Platforms (RSP) removed from the PMM and replaced with new stowage racks will enable improved stowage efficiency.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 11/11/2019 07:23 pmAdd EFU-13 on JLP. 2 additional EFU's can be installed on JLP.Thanks for sharing this info.I wasn't sure of the usability of the EFU on ELM-PS. It's not included in the exposed facility info documents.JAXA ELM-PS page states it's used to stow the ELM-ES or HTV pallet.HISUI is planned to launch on SpX-19 and will be placed on EFU#8.
Add EFU-13 on JLP. 2 additional EFU's can be installed on JLP.
I couldn't find much info on the Crew Alternate Sleep Accommodation (CASA) that flew on Cygnus NG-15. Is that similar to the 4 crew quarters in Harmony, and taking COL F3?