WASHINGTON — The Air Force is expected to sign deals with three, possibly four, space launch companies as it seeks to capitalize on private investments and fast-moving technology.Launch Service Agreement (LSA) contracts are projected to be announced in September, according to the Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center....None of the companies would comment for this story due to the sensitivity of the competition. The Air Force first planned to announce LSA awards in July. Industry sources told SpaceNews that the decision was delayed as the Air Force needed more time to evaluate Blue Origin’s bid.
Reading between the lines it seems like the Blue Origin bid showed up quite late, throwing a wrench into the works.How this plays out regarding Vulcan's engine choice will be interesting, and I expect the source of some hot, hot drama.
Quote from: GWH on 08/31/2018 06:02 pmReading between the lines it seems like the Blue Origin bid showed up quite late, throwing a wrench into the works.How this plays out regarding Vulcan's engine choice will be interesting, and I expect the source of some hot, hot drama.https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/11/blue-origin-2020-debut-new-glenn-rocket/ - is there any progress on a date, other than the above articles 'sometime in 2020' for NG launch?This would put the first launch very shortly before the first contract awards sometime in 2020, for a launch in Oct 2021.
September is all but over, and as far as I can tell, there’s been nothing more. Anybody heard anything?
Quote from: dasmoth on 09/29/2018 09:10 amSeptember is all but over, and as far as I can tell, there’s been nothing more. Anybody heard anything?A hint on twitter from Eric Berger to expect more rocket news today. It is possible it refers to this announcement coming this afternoon.
Thats a surprise SpaceX missing out. I'd assumed SpaceX and ULA were sure thing with Blue and NG fighting for 3rd place.
Quote from: TrevorMonty on 10/10/2018 11:15 pmThats a surprise SpaceX missing out. I'd assumed SpaceX and ULA were sure thing with Blue and NG fighting for 3rd place.I wonder if they were unable to bid without compromise and other things being required of them.BFS almost certainly can't get to GEO without retanking. A requirement to develop a third stage, or ... may be too onerous.I note that by the time of the first BFS test flights, this contract would only be worth some $200M perhaps.It would be nice to know if SpaceX put in any sort of bid.
I'm surprised. I wonder if this means the end for Falcon Heavy. This seems to be the Air Force ruling New Glenn a better option than Falcon Heavy. - Ed Kyle
Quote from: edkyle99 on 10/11/2018 02:26 amI'm surprised. I wonder if this means the end for Falcon Heavy. This seems to be the Air Force ruling New Glenn a better option than Falcon Heavy. - Ed KyleFalcon Heavy is already certified by the USAF for EELV missions, and can already hit all the required reference orbits. Why would the USAF need to pour massive amounts of cash into it for further development? At most it needs a longer fairing and VI, but that's a very minor cost compared to new vehicle development.Or are you assuming that because Atlas and Delta were not funded, that the USAF is no longer planning on using them for EELV?The competition for development money was always Vulcan vs Omega vs New Glenn vs BFR. Falcon Heavy doesn't need development money beyond what it's already getting.
Quote from: envy887 on 10/11/2018 02:30 amQuote from: edkyle99 on 10/11/2018 02:26 amI'm surprised. I wonder if this means the end for Falcon Heavy. This seems to be the Air Force ruling New Glenn a better option than Falcon Heavy. - Ed KyleFalcon Heavy is already certified by the USAF for EELV missions, and can already hit all the required reference orbits. Why would the USAF need to pour massive amounts of cash into it for further development? At most it needs a longer fairing and VI, but that's a very minor cost compared to new vehicle development.Or are you assuming that because Atlas and Delta were not funded, that the USAF is no longer planning on using them for EELV?The competition for development money was always Vulcan vs Omega vs New Glenn vs BFR. Falcon Heavy doesn't need development money beyond what it's already getting.Yes, of course, this is EELV-2. Atlas 5 and Delta 4 are being phased out in favor of two alternatives. It looks like Vulcan, Omega, and New Glenn are the options.My impression was that Falcon Heavy was built for and proposed for this EELV-2 contract. But, if it was BFR that SpaceX proposed, I'll restate to say that the decision endangers BFR. One of them lost big today. - Ed Kyle
The Air Force plans to issue a solicitation for phase 2 in 2019 and make its selections in 2020. Only two will be selected to continue to receive OTA funds. Of the three winners of this phase, the one that does not win phase 2 will not be able to get the full amount of OTA funding that the Air Force announced it would commit.Asked why SpaceX did not make the cut, Will Roper, assistant secretary of the Air Force for acquisitions, said the company is an “important member of our launch team” and can choose to bid again in phase 2.“Not getting LSA funds does not prevent them from competing,” Roper told reporters at a Pentagon news conference.