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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #20 on: 06/09/2018 10:39 pm »
Well it must have some good money behind it to snag that actor as the lead role. He's not cheap since his dancy dance movie. ;)

He was cast before "La La Land".

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"First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #21 on: 06/10/2018 12:27 am »
It all looks very over done and that they are really over-egging things for extra drama. Plus even in that trailer seemingly throwing in every cliche ever for this kind of film.
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #22 on: 06/10/2018 12:36 am »
‘GO at Throttle Up’ on an X-15 flight gives me a bad feeling...

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #23 on: 06/10/2018 04:33 pm »
Relax folks, it's entertainment for the masses... Any space movie raises interest in spaceflight... All good! ;)
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #24 on: 06/10/2018 05:08 pm »
Relax folks, it's entertainment for the masses...

And that's about the only attitude you can take. Not only is it not made for us it's being made by and starring people who weren't even there for the original event. Unlike Ron Howard and Tom Hanks there isn't much "I remember that" at work here. I would like to see it done correctly but this is pass the popcorn and roll with it. It's Hollywood.  8)
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #25 on: 06/10/2018 05:52 pm »
It's also worth noting that a trailer's job is to get people to see the movie. They've obviously edited together most of the dramatic scenes here to make it more appealing to the masses in this Marvel-Star Wars-Action movie age. I personally have high hopes for this film, and will withhold serious judgement until I see it in theaters.
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #26 on: 06/11/2018 05:55 pm »
I understand criticizing movies for technical inaccuracies, but what do you think they're going to do... not show Gemini 8?

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #27 on: 06/11/2018 06:17 pm »
I understand criticizing movies for technical inaccuracies, but what do you think they're going to do... not show Gemini 8?
Or that that he piloted the x15, or that he lost fellow astronauts in Apollo 1, or crashing the LLTV, or that he had a family that was probably terrified they'd loose him...

I'm sort of surprised by all the negative reactions to a movie trailer. Sure they'll pump up the suspense and drama but it's not like all these things didn't happen and weren't all part of someone's amazing life leading up to a nation's amazing accomplishment.
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #28 on: 06/11/2018 10:31 pm »
I understand criticizing movies for technical inaccuracies, but what do you think they're going to do... not show Gemini 8?
Or that that he piloted the x15, or that he lost fellow astronauts in Apollo 1, or crashing the LLTV, or that he had a family that was probably terrified they'd lose him...

I'm sort of surprised by all the negative reactions to a movie trailer. Sure they'll pump up the suspense and drama but it's not like all these things didn't happen and weren't all part of someone's amazing life leading up to a nation's amazing accomplishment.

Some other legitimate sources of drama:
Flying naval aviation combat over Korea (think The Bridges at Toko-Ri)
NACA/NASA test flying at Edwards (including the X-15)
His young daughter's struggle and death from brain cancer
The house fire in Houston that very well could have killed the entire Armstrong family in their sleep.
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #29 on: 06/12/2018 07:52 pm »
According to inside source, the launch of Saturn V in first trailer clip is a Apollo 8, the first manned spacecraft to orbited the Moon and is Pad 39'A s first launch mission.


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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #30 on: 06/13/2018 04:51 am »
What the movie needs to show is that Armstrong was always very controlled, precise, imperturbable. Not great features to work with for an actor, but that is how he was, deal with it.

Also, Armstrongs life in the 60's was far from devoid of drama and tension. Lots of material to work with without the need for overdramatizing events.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #31 on: 06/13/2018 05:54 am »
This looks much better than I anticipated. I’ll certainly see it.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #32 on: 06/14/2018 01:47 pm »
According to inside source, the launch of Saturn V in first trailer clip is a Apollo 8, the first manned spacecraft to orbited the Moon and is Pad 39'A s first launch mission.

Thanks for the tidbit! I wish they hadn't digitally substituted the kerolox flames for the shuttle SRB exhaust - sure, Saturn V didn't have huge billowing, dramatic steam&smoke clouds, but the flame impingement on the launch mount and tower were perhaps more mesmerizing.
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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #33 on: 06/14/2018 06:04 pm »
According to inside source, the launch of Saturn V in first trailer clip is a Apollo 8, the first manned spacecraft to orbited the Moon and is Pad 39'A s first launch mission.

First manned launch. Apollo 4 and 6 launched from 39A as well.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #34 on: 05/01/2019 03:29 pm »
I did not like this film.

Too much shaking, even when it was just people talking.

Credit for trying to show it from Armstrong’s viewpoint, but was put off by all the dark interiors with dirty corroded controls.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #35 on: 05/30/2019 05:58 pm »
i waste my precious time with this "Movie"

Were do i start my critic ?!

The Bad cinematography ?
The Bad Sound ?
The Cheap Special effects ?
The "Artistic Liberty" with Technology and Biography ?
The awful Soundtrack ?

I  suspect Damien Chazelle not wanted to film another Apollo 13 or the Right Stuff
That's only thing were was successful for rest it's total disaster of a Movie

What ever flight is so shaking that i get seasick, if i can see something
since Damien Chazelle and    Linus Sandgren consider semidarkness interior as "So Ultra Cool"
either that or they had to camouflage the badly build Sets (common trick in Hollywood)
since the movie cost only $70 million it's very good indication that is reason for semidarkness.

Also of the Flight scene take "Artistic Liberty" with Technology and logic
like X-15 flight in dense cloud cover
the launching of Atlas-Agena next Gemini 8 while the Crew get on board
Every Safety officer would get a hart attack on that launch schedule
also the Apollo 11 launch a little better attention to match the Original footage with CGI
would make it better, except for that dam shaking...

And biggest issue of movie: lack of communications
yes they talk too much in some scene, but on other scene it lacking were it's needed
that makes Ryan Gosling so uncharismatic...

Here to compare to make my point clear
Apollo 13 Launch

Apollo 11 Launch (first men)






Apollo 13 got it Right

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #36 on: 05/31/2019 10:35 am »
Apollo 13 was a dramatization of a space disaster. 
They got it wrong: there were no thermal blankets on the F-1 engine nozzles. 
They got it right: human ingenuity, resourcefulness and teamwork brought the crew back alive.

First Man was a dramatization of a space victory. 
They got it wrong: see the recent Apollo 11 documentary.
They got it right: human psychology.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #37 on: 06/03/2019 09:35 pm »
I don't think First Man (the movie) was anywhere near getting the psychological aspects right. Wildly inventing the very reason for Armstrong to go to the Moon was just.... weird.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #38 on: 06/04/2019 09:55 am »
I don't think First Man (the movie) was anywhere near getting the psychological aspects right. Wildly inventing the very reason for Armstrong to go to the Moon was just.... weird.

Curious, where in your opinion was the very reason for Armstrong to go to the moon wildly invented?

Been a while since I saw the film, read the book a few times.  My opinion is probably colored by my own psychology. 

Welcome your thoughts.

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Re: "First Man" Neil Armstrong Biopic
« Reply #39 on: 06/04/2019 08:20 pm »
Spoiler warning.....














Bringing the picture of his dead daughter and dropping it onto the Moon surface and seemingly getting some sort of closure out of it. It didn't happen and there are no sources at all saying that her death influenced his wish to go to the Moon.

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