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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #820 on: 12/03/2025 07:17 pm »
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #821 on: 12/03/2025 07:59 pm »
For those of us that didn't watch – did anything worth noting happen? Thanks!

Markey asked the “Elon in the room” question again, which Jared dodged like last time.

This may have already cost him the nomination. In fact, I think it’s a lose-lose the moment that question was asked. If Jared answered “yes” directly, there probably would be controversial allegations that would put Jared at risk.

I agree that no good answer was possible, but I think it was just a bit of routine points-scoring, an attempt to tar Isaacman and, by association, Trump by linking them to the unpopular Musk. I doubt it will cost Isaacman the nomination.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #822 on: 12/03/2025 08:00 pm »
For those of us that didn't watch – did anything worth noting happen? Thanks!

Markey asked the “Elon in the room” question again, which Jared dodged like last time.

This may have already cost him the nomination. In fact, I think it’s a lose-lose the moment that question was asked. If Jared answered “yes” directly, there probably would be controversial allegations that would put Jared at risk.

He will probably still be confirmed. (Keep in mind that the Senate confirmed Pete Hegseth.) He did dodge the question, and there is a good possibility that later proof can be found that Elon introduced him to the president (photos, visitor logs). If that happens, he will not have perjured himself, so that's why he dodged it. Some senators are worried about the conflict of interest. I believe he did state that he will publicly divulge how much he paid SpaceX for his spaceflights. I think he could have been a bit more forceful in saying how he would deal with any contractual issues concerning SpaceX, but the risk of saying that is that it implies that there is a conflict of interest. But I don't think that's going to derail him.

He did as well as could be expected. He handled himself professionally without any stumbles. In response to several similar questions, he indicated that if Congress appropriated money to NASA, he would spend that money to achieve maximum value (in other words, he did not say that if OMB told him to not spend appropriated funds, he would not spend them). When asked about the president's proposed massive cuts to NASA's budget, he threaded the needle, saying that he agreed with the president's desire to reduce the deficit, while also saying that some things have changed in the interim. He was caught in at least one contradiction about what he wrote in his Athena document, which he says he stands by, and what he said at the hearing is not consistent with that. And it was noted that after his nomination was pulled in May, he donated money to the president's PAC. He was well-briefed and prepared. He could have been asked some much tougher questions, but he wasn't. It was not a hostile hearing.

Keep in mind that the position is administrator, not director or secretary. The administrator has more constrained powers over the agency than other heads of agencies and departments.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #823 on: 12/03/2025 08:05 pm »
Presumably he'll be filling out new financial disclosure forms as part of the nomination process. Maybe we'll learn what major donations he made after May 2025.

One of the highlights (or one could easily just as well say lowlights) was Isaacman's confirmation that since his first nomination was withdrawn, he has made $2 million in Repubilcan donations.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #824 on: 12/03/2025 08:11 pm »
I was a bit surprised that nobody challenged Isaacman more directly on NASA's earth-science mission given the president's well-known skepticism.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #825 on: 12/03/2025 08:14 pm »
I believe he did state that he will publicly divulge how much he paid SpaceX for his spaceflights.

What I recall was two steps removed from committing to publicly divulging the cost: he said he had no problem asking SpaceX to release him from the relevant NDA.

Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue and just another example of political points-scoring.
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #826 on: 12/03/2025 08:20 pm »
Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue, and just another example of political points-scoring.

It is not an illegitimate question. You have to look at it from the point of potential conflict of interest: 1-Isaacman paid Musk's company, 2-Musk (probably) recommended Isaacman for the job of NASA administrator, 3-Isaacman will then be making decisions that involve sending government money to SpaceX. It raises the question of quid pro quo, which is why they asked about it. I think he answered it to the best of his ability.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #827 on: 12/03/2025 08:35 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/03/science/trump-nasa-jared-isaacman-senate-hearing.html

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Trump’s NASA Pick Poised to Win Senate Vote After Do-Over
By Kenneth Chang
Dec. 3, 2025, 2:45 p.m. ET

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Perhaps because the senators had already grilled him once, no showstopper disagreements arose during Wednesday’s hearing. Mr. Cruz has already scheduled for Monday a committee vote on Mr. Isaacman, and said he hoped the full Senate would confirm him before the end of the year.

Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington, the committee’s ranking Democrat, said she also wanted a fast-track confirmation for Mr. Isaacman.

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During this second appearance before the committee, Mr. Isaacman spoke less of Mars and more of China and the moon, although he went out of his way to avoid saying “China.”

“I know it is not lost on anyone in this room that we are in a great competition with a rival that has the will and the means to challenge American exceptionalism across multiple domains, including in the high ground of space,” Mr. Isaacman said. “This is not the time for delay, but a time for action.”

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When Mr. Trump first nominated Mr. Isaacman, it seemed related to his association with Elon Musk, the founder and chief executive of SpaceX. During Mr. Isaacman’s first nomination hearing in April, Mr. Cruz sparred with him over the focus of the American human spaceflight program.

While Mr. Cruz insisted that laws passed by Congress called for establishing a sustained and continued presence of American astronauts on the moon, Mr. Isaacman in April talked of sending astronauts to Mars as a priority.

“I don’t think we need to make any tough trade here,” Mr. Isaacman said then. “I think we can be paralleling these efforts and doing the near impossible.”

On Wednesday, Mr. Cruz revisited that line of questioning, and this time Mr. Isaacman more readily affirmed Mr. Cruz’s priorities.

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The nominee received a few pointed questions from some of the panel’s Democrats.

Senator Andy Kim, a Democrat of New Jersey, brought up a strategic plan Mr. Isaacman had put together for NASA in the spring. Mr. Kim asked whether he stood by some of what was in the plan, which calls for streamlining and reorganizing NASA without detailing specifics.

Mr. Isaacman said he did stand behind what he had written.“I think it was all directionally correct,” he said.

Mr. Kim pointed to passages that called for re-evaluating a sustained presence on the moon and possibly transferring some of NASA’s earth science missions to private industry.

“I’m just having trouble understanding what to believe,” Mr. Kim said.

On Wednesday, Mr. Isaacman also forcefully pushed back on the perception that he was a close friend of Mr. Musk’s. “It’s funny that in a world where everybody has a phone with a camera on it, there are no pictures of us at dinner, at a bar, on an airplane or on a yacht,” he said. “Because they don’t exist.”

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NASA today is different from the agency he would have taken over in May. Thousands of employees at the space agency have left as part of the administration’s efforts to shrink the federal government. Questions have also been raised about when SpaceX’s Starship spacecraft will be ready to serve as a vehicle to take astronauts to the lunar surface, and there is less time now to come up with an alternative.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #828 on: 12/03/2025 11:02 pm »
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Isaacman to Senate: “No Time for Delay” - NASA Requires “Full Time” Leadership

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Jared Isaacman faced the US Senate Commerce Committee in his second bid to become NASA Administrator, delivering a powerful message of urgency as America races toward Artemis lunar landings in 2026 amid fierce competition from China’s rapidly advancing space program - including LandSpace’s near-perfect methalox rocket booster landing just hours before the hearing. In this December 2025 confirmation hearing recap, dive deep into Isaacman’s stance on the future of SLS versus reusable heavy-lift giants like SpaceX’s Starship and Blue Origin’s New Glenn, his support for opening Artemis contracts to boost competition, advocacy for nuclear propulsion and cutting-edge X-planes, defense of NASA’s science and aeronautics departments amongst proposed cuts, and why beating China to the Moon is critical for American leadership.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #829 on: 12/03/2025 11:11 pm »
I believe he did state that he will publicly divulge how much he paid SpaceX for his spaceflights.

What I recall was two steps removed from committing to publicly divulging the cost: he said he had no problem asking SpaceX to release him from the relevant NDA.

Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue and just another example of political points-scoring.

We already know. Inspiration4 was estimated to be about $200M in a number of articles. Isaacson in his book on Musk said that Isaacman agreed to pay $500M for the Polaris missions. Only one Polaris mission was flown, so he likely didn't pay for the second and third missions that are on hold.
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #830 on: 12/04/2025 01:44 am »
I just finished watching the hearing. It was a positive hearing. I would expect Isaacman to get just as much support as he got the first time. The last time Isaacman was easily approved by the committee and was expected to be easily confirmed by the full Senate. It should be the same this time.
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #833 on: 12/04/2025 04:21 am »
I was a bit surprised that nobody challenged Isaacman more directly on NASA's earth-science mission given the president's well-known skepticism.
I think they know it's out of his control. Isaacman can't publicly oppose  the President's position and still remain the nominee. Smart senators would realize the best they can realistically hope for is someone who cares about science and could be an internal advocate for it. Duffy certainly doesn't seem that interested in it.
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #834 on: 12/04/2025 07:13 am »
Presumably he'll be filling out new financial disclosure forms as part of the nomination process. Maybe we'll learn what major donations he made after May 2025.

One of the highlights (or one could easily just as well say lowlights) was Isaacman's confirmation that since his first nomination was withdrawn, he has made $2 million in Repubilcan donations.

That fact will be used by Isaacman's political opponents as "proof" that Jared "bought" himself the position of NASA administrator. And I don't blame them for pointing this out because, on the surface, that's exactly what it will look like to the general public.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #835 on: 12/04/2025 07:21 am »
Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue, and just another example of political points-scoring.

It is not an illegitimate question. You have to look at it from the point of potential conflict of interest: 1-Isaacman paid Musk's company, 2-Musk (probably) recommended Isaacman for the job of NASA administrator, 3-Isaacman will then be making decisions that involve sending government money to SpaceX. It raises the question of quid pro quo, which is why they asked about it. I think he answered it to the best of his ability...
... without violating the NDA

I agree with Blackstar here. Isaacman should IMO pro-actively request SpaceX to be released from the NDA. Once the NDA is out of the way, he should immediately divulge how much he paid SpaceX for the Inspiration4 and Polaris Dawn missions.  And he should also reveal the exact nature and terms of the service agreements/contracts between SpaceX and Isaacman (for Inspiration4 and Polaris Dawn) was.

Without doing this, questions and allegations about quid pro quo will linger as long as Isaacman is NASA admin IMO. Any contract awarded to SpaceX, during his tenure, will face merciless scrutiny from Jared's political opponents, as well as SpaceX competitors.

If Isaacman keeps his history with SpaceX clouded, he will IMO be in for a rough ride as NASA administrator. Certain political forces and certain U.S. aerospace companies will make sure of that IMO.
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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #836 on: 12/04/2025 07:28 am »
I believe he did state that he will publicly divulge how much he paid SpaceX for his spaceflights.

What I recall was two steps removed from committing to publicly divulging the cost: he said he had no problem asking SpaceX to release him from the relevant NDA.

Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue and just another example of political points-scoring.

We already know. Inspiration4 was estimated to be about $200M in a number of articles. Isaacson in his book on Musk said that Isaacman agreed to pay $500M for the Polaris missions. Only one Polaris mission was flown, so he likely didn't pay for the second and third missions that are on hold.

Disagree. "We" (the general public) don't know.

You just confirmed this fact in your very own post:
- The $200M number for Inspiration4 is an estimate, from uninformed people outside of SpaceX and the Inspiration4 team. So it's likely to be off-base, in either direction. The exact number is not known to the general public (which includes most folks here).
- The $500M figure was for all three Polaris missions. How much of that was allocated for Polaris Dawn is, once again, unknown outside of SpaceX and the Polaris Dawn team. So we, the general public, don't know.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #837 on: 12/04/2025 10:33 am »
Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue, and just another example of political points-scoring.

It is not an illegitimate question. You have to look at it from the point of potential conflict of interest: 1-Isaacman paid Musk's company, 2-Musk (probably) recommended Isaacman for the job of NASA administrator, 3-Isaacman will then be making decisions that involve sending government money to SpaceX. It raises the question of quid pro quo, which is why they asked about it. I think he answered it to the best of his ability...
... without violating the NDA

I agree with Blackstar here. Isaacman should IMO pro-actively request SpaceX to be released from the NDA.

Whether or not Elon introduced him to Trump and recommended that he be NASA administrator has nothing to do with an NDA. He could answer that question. Also, the amount of money paid to SpaceX is not all that important, the fact that it was paid is the relevant issue. And as I pointed out in my 1, 2, 3 above, that's the chain of logic here.

When I wrote "to the best of his ability," I meant politically. He did not want to say if Elon was there when he was first offered the job.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #838 on: 12/04/2025 12:33 pm »
I believe he did state that he will publicly divulge how much he paid SpaceX for his spaceflights.

What I recall was two steps removed from committing to publicly divulging the cost: he said he had no problem asking SpaceX to release him from the relevant NDA.

Personally, I think this particular point is really a non-issue and just another example of political points-scoring.

We already know. Inspiration4 was estimated to be about $200M in a number of articles. Isaacson in his book on Musk said that Isaacman agreed to pay $500M for the Polaris missions. Only one Polaris mission was flown, so he likely didn't pay for the second and third missions that are on hold.

Disagree. "We" (the general public) don't know.

You just confirmed this fact in your very own post:
- The $200M number for Inspiration4 is an estimate, from uninformed people outside of SpaceX and the Inspiration4 team. So it's likely to be off-base, in either direction. The exact number is not known to the general public (which includes most folks here).
- The $500M figure was for all three Polaris missions. How much of that was allocated for Polaris Dawn is, once again, unknown outside of SpaceX and the Polaris Dawn team. So we, the general public, don't know.

The exact figure doesn't matter. It's approximately $200M but you get a discount if you buy 3 missions.

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Re: Jared Isaacman nominated as NASA Administrator
« Reply #839 on: 12/04/2025 12:39 pm »
Presumably he'll be filling out new financial disclosure forms as part of the nomination process. Maybe we'll learn what major donations he made after May 2025.

One of the highlights (or one could easily just as well say lowlights) was Isaacman's confirmation that since his first nomination was withdrawn, he has made $2 million in Repubilcan donations.

That fact will be used by Isaacman's political opponents as "proof" that Jared "bought" himself the position of NASA administrator. And I don't blame them for pointing this out because, on the surface, that's exactly what it will look like to the general public.

It only looks that way to people that are pre-disposed to see it that way. Isaacman had explained (in a podcast) prior to his re-nomination that he wasn't done with politics despite his nomination being withdrawn and so his political donations are a reflection of that.

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