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Thread for the Starlink Group 12-5 launch.

Launch 8 December 2024, at 05:12:30 UTC (12:12 am EST), from CCSFS SLC-40, on B1086-2.  The first stage successfully landed aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.

Payload 23 Starlink V2 Mini satellites, including 13 with Direct-to-Cell capabilities, to a 43 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 283 x 293 km.

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The progression towards establishing the what and when of this launch.

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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated November 18, after GSAT-20 launch:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on November 21 at 10:53 a.m. - 2:53 p.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on November 24 at 4:59-8:59 a.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 39A on November 25 at 10:31 p.m. - 2:31 a.m. EST. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SiriusXM-9 communication satellite on December 2. A Falcon 9 will launch the next pair of O3b mPOWER satellites for SES on mid-December.

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated November 20:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on November 21 at 10:53 a.m. - 2:53 p.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on November 25 at 4:32-8:32 a.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 39A on November 25 at 10:31 p.m. - 2:31 a.m. EST. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SiriusXM-9 communication satellite on December 2 around 11 a.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch the next GPS satellite for the U.S. Space Force on December. A Falcon 9 will launch the next pair of O3b mPOWER satellites for SES on mid-December. A Falcon 9 will launch the Astranis MicroGEO mission on December. A Falcon 9 will launch the Thuraya 4-NGS communication satellite for the UAE on December.

Launch is likely early to mid December[, given the generally chronological arrangement of these bulletins].


Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated November 23:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on November 25 at 4:32-8:32 a.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 39A on November 25 at 10:31 p.m. - 2:31 a.m. EST. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches. A Falcon 9 will launch the SiriusXM-9 communication satellite on early December around 11 a.m. EST. A Falcon 9 will launch the next pair of O3b mPOWER satellites for SES on mid-December. A Falcon 9 will launch the next GPS satellite for the U.S. Space Force on December. A Falcon 9 will launch the Astranis MicroGEO mission on December. A Falcon 9 will launch the Thuraya 4-NGS communication satellite for the UAE on December. A Falcon 9 will launch Firefly's Blue Ghost lunar lander to the moon on mid-January.

This Starlink will launch from either LC-39A or SLC-40, after SXM-9.  Turnaround is quicker at SLC-40.

Currently, there is no mention of Florida Starlink launches later in December, but there is time for such launch campaigns between the SpaceX commercial customers.

The GPS launch is, again, listed for launch in December--no particular third of the month.

Edit/add Nov 27:
O3b mPower 7/8 is scheduled to launch from LC-39A on December 12.
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Here comes Group 12-5 - the launch date indicates this going from SLC-40.

A3912/24 NOTAMN
Q) FAJO/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/4220S02434E999
A) FAJO B) 2412080707 C) 2412140929
D) 08 DEC 0707-1214, 09 DEC 0639-1146, 10 DEC 0612-1119, 11 DEC
0544-1051, 12 DEC 0517-1024, 13 DEC 0449-0956, 14 DEC 0422-0929
E) AREA BOUNDED BY (4256S 00224W, 4045S 00221W, 3210S 05700E, 3515S
05700E): SPACEX STARLINK 12-5 STAGE 2 ROCKET RE-ENTRY OPS TAKING
PLACE. APPLICABLE AIRSPACE DOWNGRADED TO CLASS G.
F) SFC G) UNL


F4654/24 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1612S08227E650
A) YMMM
B) 2412080707 C) 2412140929
D) 2412080707 TO 2412081214
   2412090639 TO 2412091146
   2412100612 TO 2412101119
   2412110544 TO 2412111051
   2412120517 TO 2412121024
   2412130449 TO 2412130956
   2412140422 TO 2412140929
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 12-5 STAGE 2
WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS:
20 33S 075 00E
07 46S 089 27E
08 53S 092 28E
24 22S 075 00E TO BEGINNING
F) SFC G) UNL
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Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to forty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

Re: SpaceX skipping over B1072.2 and B1086.2.  I wonder if they are being converted to single-stick Falcon 9’s after all.  It may be more efficient to leave them as-is for whenever the next Falcon Heavy launch is in late 2025.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1085.4    Nov 7     (speculation: held for Dec GPS?)
1067.24  Nov 11   Starlink 6-70
1076.19  Nov 14   SXM-9
1077.17  Nov 17
1073.20  Nov 18
1069.21  Nov 21
1080.14  Nov 25

Edit December 6: It's one of the two former side boosters for GOES-U: either B1072.2 or B1086.2.  So, yes, SpaceX does appear to have converted both of them(?) to single-stick Falcon 9's.

Edit December 10: It's B1086.2.  It was observed on the deck of ASOG upon return to Port Canaveral.
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NGA Rocket Launching notice (expected launch window 05:10-09:10 UTC).

Quote from: NGA
030930Z DEC 24
NAVAREA IV 1520/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   080510Z TO 080941Z DEC, ALTERNATE
   090442Z TO 090913Z, 100415Z TO 100846Z,
   110347Z TO 110818Z, 120320Z TO 120751Z,
   130252Z TO 130723Z AND
   140225Z TO 140656Z DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.00N 080-37.69W, 28-39.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-30.00N 080-10.00W, 28-24.00N 080-09.00W,
      28-21.00N 080-11.00W, 28-23.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-29.35N 080-32.49W.
   B. 26-04.00N 076-00.00W, 26-17.00N 076-00.00W,
      26-16.00N 075-35.00W, 26-12.00N 075-07.00W,
      25-44.00N 074-19.00W, 25-24.00N 074-09.00W,
      25-10.00N 074-29.00W, 25-17.00N 074-58.00W,
      25-43.00N 075-42.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 140756Z DEC 24.//

Multi-launch Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Quote from: NGA
132028Z NOV 24
HYDROPAC 3525/24(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   18 NOV THRU 22 DEC IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 230001Z DEC 24.
Quote from: NGA
132028Z NOV 24
HYDROLANT 2341/24(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   18 NOV THRU 22 DEC IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 230001Z DEC 24.
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NGA Rocket Launching notice (expected launch window 05:10-09:10 UTC).

Maps from the NGA notices. Identical to Starlink 6-70 and others.

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Preliminary information from CelesTrak.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Quote from: CelesTrak
Starlink G12-5 Pre-Launch
Derived from a pre-launch Starlink-G12-5 state vector, provided by SpaceX. SupGP data is provided for the entire stack, as well as one for a single satellite.
Launch: 2024-12-08 05:10:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-12-08 06:15:21.660 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-12-08 05:10:00 UTC to 2024-12-08 09:10:00 UTC.

283km x 293km x 42.99°.
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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

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SPACEX STARLINK 12-5, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   12/08/24   0510Z-0941Z
BACKUP:      12/09/24   0442Z-0913Z
      12/10/24   0415Z-0846Z


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Preliminary information from CelesTrak.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Quote from: CelesTrak
Starlink G12-5 Pre-Launch
Derived from a pre-launch Starlink-G12-5 state vector, provided by SpaceX. SupGP data is provided for the entire stack, as well as one for a single satellite.
Launch: 2024-12-08 05:10:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-12-08 06:15:21.660 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-12-08 05:10:00 UTC to 2024-12-08 09:10:00 UTC.

283km x 293km x 42.99°.
The deployment orbit of G12-5 has returned to a similar altitude as before, instead of 321*330km of G12-1. Does this mean that the satellite configuration of G12-5 has been modified or some other potential changes?

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Booster B1072-2 or B1086-2

SpaceX converted one of GOES-U's side-boosters, but which one, who knows?

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SpaceX is targeting Sunday, December 8 for a Falcon 9 launch of 23 Starlink satellites, including 13 with Direct to Cell capabilities, to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. Liftoff is targeted for 12:10 a.m. ET, with backup opportunities available until 4:10 a.m. ET. If needed, additional opportunities are also available that same day, starting at 11:42 p.m. ET.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about five minutes prior to liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.

This is the second flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched GOES-U. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-12-5
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PDF of online press kit and link to X livestream.

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyvypNMJL
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Here is a consolidated post of available video links for this launch:

SpaceX direct live broadcast on Twitter:  https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyvypNMJL

Space Affairs YouTube (SpaceX Re-broadcast):  https://youtube.com/watch?v=A6U-S04dnL0

Replay supplied by The Space Devs (15 min after the broadcast end):  https://youtube.com/@thespacedevs/videos

Summary Video provided by SciNews (15 min after the broadcast ends):  https://youtube.com/@SciNewsRo/videos

NSF Live Coverage: The link was provided before launch.
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https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-12-5
Booster B1072-2 or B1086-2.  SpaceX converted one of GOES-U's side-boosters, but which one, who knows?
Are there any distinguishing characteristics of one vs the other?  I imagine the soot coverage and density is roughly the same?  We may not know until launch day.

I'm glad to see one of the two entering the Florida Falcon 9 rotation.
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https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-12-5
Booster B1072-2 or B1086-2.  SpaceX converted one of GOES-U's side-boosters, but which one, who knows?
Are there any distinguishing characteristics of one vs the other?  I imagine the soot coverage and density is roughly the same?  We may not know until launch day.

I'm glad to see one of the two entering the Florida Falcon 9 rotation.

Best picture I could did up of them at the GOES-U Landing

https://twitter.com/johnpisaniphoto/status/1806322965400977663
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Updated preliminary information from CelesTrak.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Quote from: CelesTrak
Current as of 2024 Dec 07 03:30:33 UTC (Day 342)
Starlink G12-5 Pre-Launch
Derived from a pre-launch Starlink-G12-5 state vector, provided by SpaceX. SupGP data is provided for the entire stack, as well as one for a single satellite.

Launch: 2024-12-08 05:12:30 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-12-08 06:17:48.340 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-12-08 05:12:30 UTC to 2024-12-08 05:16:00 UTC.

Backup Launch Opportunity #1   
Launch: 2024-12-08 05:16:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-12-08 06:21:18.340 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-12-08 05:16:00 UTC to 2024-12-08 05:21:30 UTC.

Backup Launch Opportunity #2   
Launch: 2024-12-08 08:56:10 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-12-08 10:01:28.340 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-12-08 08:56:10 UTC to 2024-12-08 09:02:20 UTC.
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https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-12-5
Booster B1072-2 or B1086-2.  SpaceX converted one of GOES-U's side-boosters, but which one, who knows?
Are there any distinguishing characteristics of one vs the other?  I imagine the soot coverage and density is roughly the same?  We may not know until launch day.

I'm glad to see one of the two entering the Florida Falcon 9 rotation.

Here are GOES-U landing pics from SpaceX.

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L-1 weather forecast. >95% 'Go' for both December 8 and December 9. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low.
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