Author Topic: New Glenn flight 1: Blue Ring tech demo: 16 January 2025 (07:03 UTC) DISCUSSION  (Read 238896 times)

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https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1849451360946737346

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Seven BE-4s ✅#NewGlenn engine installation is complete!
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https://twitter.com/wapodavenport/status/1849630140579315954

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From what I hear, there is good progress toward getting a FAA launch license but getting it in time for a November launch would be "tight."

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The DS-1 flight system, comprised of Blue Origin avionics equipment, is expected to be launched as a non-separable, primary payload on the upper stage of a National Security Space Launch-class launch vehicle (“LV”) with an expected launch date in Q4 2024. The mission will be an elliptical medium Earth orbit (“MEO”) of approximately 19300 km apogee, 2400 km perigee, at an inclination of 30 degrees.

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Cross-post:
[DS-1 flight system] moved [from Vulcan Centaur stage of GPS III SV07] to the first New Glenn flight.
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https://twitter.com/davill/status/1851498623949029778

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#NewGlenn’s GS1 is on the move! Our transporter comprises two trailers connected by cradles and a strongback assembly designed in-house. There are 22 axles and 176 tires on this transport vehicle. It’s towed by an Oshkosh M1070, a repurposed U.S. Army tank transporter, with 505 horsepower and 1,825 pound-feet of torque. Seems fitting we’ve named it GERT -- Giant Enormous Rocket Truck. The distance between GERT’s front bumper and the trailer's rear is 310’, about the length of a football field. It’s a 23-mile, multiple-hour journey to our pad because we have to take the long way around.

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https://twitter.com/davill/status/1851498623949029778

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#NewGlenn’s GS1 is on the move! Our transporter comprises two trailers connected by cradles and a strongback assembly designed in-house. There are 22 axles and 176 tires on this transport vehicle. It’s towed by an Oshkosh M1070, a repurposed U.S. Army tank transporter, with 505 horsepower and 1,825 pound-feet of torque. Seems fitting we’ve named it GERT -- Giant Enormous Rocket Truck. The distance between GERT’s front bumper and the trailer's rear is 310’, about the length of a football field. It’s a 23-mile, multiple-hour journey to our pad because we have to take the long way around.
That big old round fixture in the back - does that become part of the launch mount or just part of the erection mechanism?
The orange mechanisms within - clamps of some sort?
It's pretty massive.

They made it to the pad and beat November by a day!  (assuming the "long way around" is not TOO long)
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It will take about as long as the pathfinder did. This is actually the second trip for that midbody.

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https://twitter.com/dwisecinema/status/1851587355615850867

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It's easy to forget just how massive some rockets are. Watching @blueorigin roll GS1 out to LC-36 really impressed upon me just how massive New Glenn is.
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https://twitter.com/dwisecinema/status/1851581454125236391

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Blue Origin's GS1 for New Glenn's first launch makes its way toward LC-36.
📸- @NASASpaceflight
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Ars Technica The New Glenn rocket’s first stage is real, and it’s spectacular, Eric Berger [Oct 30]

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Can they make orbit this year?
Blue Origin founder Jeff Bezos has been pushing the company hard to launch New Glenn for the first time this year, and the schedule is getting tight. Blue Origin already had to stand down from an October launch attempt and delay the launch of a small Mars-bound payload for NASA called ESCAPADE.

So how long will New Glenn sit at the pad before launching? Consider the example of SpaceX and its Falcon Heavy rocket, also a heavy-lift vehicle. SpaceX moved that rocket to the launch pad for the first time on December 28, 2017, and hot fired the vehicle on January 24 of the following year. Liftoff of the first Falcon Heavy rocket occurred February 6. All of this work comprised 40 days.

This is far from a perfect comparison, as the Falcon Heavy—comprising three Falcon 9 cores—was a more complex vehicle in terms of integrating the three large rockets into a coherent first stage. However by that time SpaceX had launched nearly 50 Falcon 9 rockets, so they had much more operational experience than Blue Origin, with its debut orbital system. SpaceX is also known for working quickly. Thus, a reasonable no-earlier-than date for New Glenn's debut is likely early to mid-December.

It's going to be close.
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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1851709902928199882

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Blue Origin's New Glenn booster "GS1" rolled out to LC-36 this morning for testing ahead of a potential launch later this year.

Justin Davenport Overviews:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/10/blue-first-stage-testing/

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Blue Origin rolls out New Glenn’s first stage for testing
written by Justin Davenport October 30, 2024
 
Fresh off the successful New Shepard NS-27 flight, Blue Origin is making intense preparations for the first flight of its long-awaited New Glenn heavy-lift rocket. The company has rolled out New Glenn’s first stage, equipped with seven BE-4 engines, for a static test firing. This is part of an effort to make the flight by the end of 2024.

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https://twitter.com/davill/status/1851726138344902734

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Up next: Integrated launch vehicle hotfire. (And one of my favorite photos from the move!)

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Does “integrated” mean you’ll stack the entire vehicle including upper stage before the static firing? Also is this going to be a full scale WDR/test firing w/all 7 engines?

https://twitter.com/davill/status/1851728828919652730

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Yup, booster and 2nd stage will be integrated for the hot fire.

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https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1852023814462333343

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Go-GERT! A final few pics from #NewGlenn’s journey to LC-36. Coming up: Integrated launch vehicle hotfire 🔥

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I just think it's cool that they can move that massive beast with only 500 horsepower. It's a pretty flat journey and they aren't going very fast but I still think it's cool.
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I just think it's cool that they can move that massive beast with only 500 horsepower. It's a pretty flat journey and they aren't going very fast but I still think it's cool.
Think of the tug at an airport, pulling any medium or larger jetliner.  Similar weight and dimensions.  Maybe a bit flatter, but I don't know if those little guys pack 500 HP.
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Even big airport tugs may only have ~120hp.
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Even big airport tugs may only have ~120hp.
The T80 push back tug that can handle an A380 has 408 bhp:

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/27386/how-much-force-is-needed-to-tow-an-airliner#27387
Right but an A380 is probably 500-600 tons taking off...  An empty NG Booster is 1/4-1/5 of that.  Add the strong back, but still.

As much as we marvel at all these giant rockets, airplanes are larger beasts, and have been for decades.
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Even big airport tugs may only have ~120hp.
The T80 push back tug that can handle an A380 has 408 bhp:

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/27386/how-much-force-is-needed-to-tow-an-airliner#27387
Right but an A380 is probably 500-600 tons taking off...  An empty NG Booster is 1/10 of that.  Add the strong back, but still.

As much as we marvel at all these giant rockets, airplanes are larger beasts, and have been for decades.

Empty NG stage is more like ~120 tonnes. It holds about the same amount of fuel as a V1 starship (~1,150 tonnes). It’s a big boi
« Last Edit: 11/01/2024 09:26 am by ZachF »
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