Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 10-10 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 15 October 2024 (06:10 UTC) (Read 17544 times)

zubenelgenubi · « **on:** 09/01/2024 07:13 am »

Thread for the Starlink Group 10-10 launch.

Launch 15 October 2024, at 06:10:00 UTC (2:10 am EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 1080-11. The first stage successfully landed aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas.

Payload 23 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a northeastern trajectory. Initial orbit 281 x 292 km.

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zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #1 on:** 09/01/2024 07:30 am »

The next Florida Starlink launch will likely be in mid or late September from SLC-40.
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated August 31 (after Starlink 8-10); my bold:

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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 4 at 8:59 a.m. - 12:59 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Polaris Dawn spaceflight participant mission from pad 39A on [September 4] ~~TBD~~ at 3:38-7:10 a.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Galileo L13 navigation satellite mission for Europe from pad 40 on early September. A Falcon 9 will launch the [five] BlueBird-1 mobile communication satellite(s) for AST Mobile from pad 40 on mid-September TBD. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch Crew-9 to the International Space Station from pad 40 on September 24 at 2:50 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hera asteroid rendezvous mission for the European Space Agency from pad 40 on October 7 at 10:52 a.m. EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA's flagship Europa orbiter to Jupiter from pad 39A on October 10 at 11:51 a.m. EDT.

My statement above would especially be true if Starlink 8-11 => Galileo Flight 13 => BlueBird-1 => <next Florida Starlink?> => Crew-9.

This launch circa September 17? Or, will the Crew-9 launch campaign require ~2 weeks?

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/01/2024 08:23 am

NextSpaceflight; updated August 31:
Launch NET 9 September

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/01/2024 08:33 am

NextSpaceflight; updated August 31:
Launch NET 13 September

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #2 on:** 09/10/2024 06:12 am »

My bold:

Quote from: Salo on 09/04/2024 07:41 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 4:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 5 earliest at 8:35 a.m. - 12:35 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Polaris Dawn spaceflight participant mission from pad 39A on September TBD at 3:38-7:10 a.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch five BlueBird-1 mobile communication satellites for AST Mobile from pad 40 on September 12 at 4:52 a.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch the Galileo L13 navigation satellite mission for Europe from pad 40 on September 15 earliest around 7 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch Crew-9 to the International Space Station from pad 40 on September 24 at 2:50 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hera asteroid rendezvous mission for the European Space Agency from pad 40 on October 7 at 10:52 a.m. EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA's flagship Europa Clipper spacecraft to orbit around Jupiter from pad 39A on October 10 at 11:51 a.m. EDT.

The next Starlink launch from SLC-40 would be after Crew-9 and before Hera.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #3 on:** 09/15/2024 08:51 pm »

My bold:

Quote from: Salo on 09/15/2024 04:25 am

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 14:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Galileo L13 navigation satellite mission for Europe from pad 40 on September 16 earliest at 6:55 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch Crew-9 to the International Space Station from pad 40 on September 25 earliest at 2:28 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hera asteroid rendezvous mission for the European Space Agency from pad 40 on October 7 at 10:52 a.m. EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA's flagship Europa Clipper spacecraft to orbit around Jupiter from pad 39A on October 10 earliest at 12:31 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Koreasat 6A communication satellite from pad 40 on mid October. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-31 Cargo Dragon resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on October 16 around 6 a.m. EDT.

Further launch delays to Galileo F13 and/or Crew-9 may leave too little time for a Starlink launch between Crew-9 and Hera.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #4 on:** 09/18/2024 08:43 pm »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/15/2024 08:51 pm

Further launch delays to Galileo F13 and/or Crew-9 may leave too little time for a Starlink launch between Crew-9 and Hera.

The above thought has not yet come to pass. Launch circa September 28/29?
My bolds:

Quote from: Salo on 09/18/2024 06:37 pm

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 18:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch Crew-9 to the International Space Station from pad 40 on September 26 at 2:05 p.m. EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape landing zone about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Hera asteroid rendezvous mission for the European Space Agency from pad 40 on October 7 at 10:52 a.m. EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch NASA's flagship Europa Clipper spacecraft to orbit around Jupiter from pad 39A on October 10 at 12:31 p.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Koreasat 6A communication satellite from pad 40 on October. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-31 Cargo Dragon resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on late October around 12 a.m. EDT.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #5 on:** 09/23/2024 12:10 am »

Which first stage will be used for this launch? (semi-rhetorical question)

Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to forty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

Almost-new first stage 1085.2 is set aside for Crew-9.

1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Europa Clipper.

1072.2 and 1086.2 are being converted to "single-sticks" after their recovery as the Falcon Heavy side boosters from the GOES-U launch.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1072.2 Jun 25 (maybe)
1086.2 Jun 25 (maybe)
1080.11 Aug 4
1073.18 Aug 12
1076.17 Aug 15
1069.19 Aug 31
1077.16 Sep 5
1083.5 Sep 10 (doubtful due to young age, perhaps reserved for SpX-31?)
1078.14 Sep 12
1067.23 Sep 17

Edit October 14: It's B1080.11. B1072.2 and B1086.2 have yet to make their appearances on the pad as single-stick first stages.

Edited

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #6 on:** 09/23/2024 11:50 pm »

Finally after a long downtime for East Coast Starlink launches due to customer missions, here's one Group 10-10:

F3506/24 NOTAMN Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5129S13135E999 A) YMMM B) 2409301147 C) 2410041501 D) 2409301147 TO 2409301630 2410011125 TO 2410011608 2410021103 TO 2410021546 2410031041 TO 2410031524 2410041018 TO 2410041501 E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 10-10 STAGE 2 WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS: 4802S 15955E 4711S 15859E 5117S 11527E 3952S 08205E 4136S 08009E 5337S 11428E 4927S 15948E TO BEGINNING F) SFC G) UNL

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #7 on:** 09/25/2024 06:55 am »

Postponed to NET October 2 per https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html, evidently due to Dragon Crew-9 delays.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #8 on:** 09/25/2024 01:41 pm »

Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/25/2024 06:55 am

Postponed to NET October 2 per https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html, evidently due to Dragon Crew-9 delays.

The NGA Rocket Launching notice just came out for September 30.

Quote from: NGA

250910Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1164/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   300934Z TO 301404Z SEP, ALTERNATE
   010912Z TO 011342Z, 020850Z TO 021320Z,
   030828Z TO 031258Z, 040805Z TO 041235Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 041335Z OCT 24.//

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #9 on:** 09/25/2024 05:16 pm »

Here's a cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice for October 2.

Quote from: NGA

251557Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1165/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   020850Z TO 021320Z SEP, ALTERNATE
   030828Z TO 031258Z, 040805Z TO 041235Z,
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z TO 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1164/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #10 on:** 09/25/2024 11:55 pm »

Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/23/2024 11:50 pm

Finally after a long downtime for East Coast Starlink launches due to customer missions, here's one Group 10-10:

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/25/2024 05:16 pm

Here's a cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice for October 2.

Maps from the combined notices, identical to Starlink 8-11.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #11 on:** 09/26/2024 05:28 pm »

Cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice.

No change to the schedule.

Unless I missed something, it looks like all they did was rearrange the order of the coordinates for both A and B.

Quote from: NGA

261343Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1171/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   020850Z TO 021320Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   030828Z TO 031258Z, 040805Z TO 041235Z, 
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-31.66N 080-33.60W,
      28-35.00N 080-28.00W.
   B. 32-36.00N 075-02.00W, 33-19.00N 074-51.00W,
      33-24.00N 075-00.00W, 33-09.00N 075-30.00W,
      32-30.00N 076-24.00W, 31-48.00N 076-56.00W,
      31-44.00N 076-50.00W, 32-09.00N 075-45.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1165/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #12 on:** 09/29/2024 04:15 am »

Not listed at all.
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

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PLANNED LAUNCH/REENTRY:
SPACEX ONEWEB, VANDENBERG SFB,CA
PRIMARY:   TBD
BACKUP:      TBD

SPACEX STARLINK 6-61, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   TBD
BACKUP:      TBD

EFFECTIVE TIME: 290128 - 290959

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #13 on:** 09/29/2024 04:23 am »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/29/2024 04:15 am

Not listed at all.
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
<snip>

If it had been listed, and then removed, that might be meaningful.

Not yet being listed at all on that website this far out, IMO meaningless.

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #14 on:** 09/29/2024 07:08 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 04:23 am

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/29/2024 04:15 am
Not listed at all.
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
<snip>

If it had been listed, and then removed, that might be meaningful.

Not yet being listed at all on that website this far out, IMO meaningless.

It looks like it WAS indeed in the cards for October 2nd per here (I also see people mentioning that the Twitter live stream link for Starlink 10-10 was once posted in secret, now deleted): https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61584.msg2628591#msg2628591

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #15 on:** 09/29/2024 04:33 pm »

Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/29/2024 07:08 am

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 04:23 am
Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/29/2024 04:15 am
Not listed at all.
https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
<snip>

If it had been listed, and then removed, that might be meaningful.

Not yet being listed at all on that website this far out, IMO meaningless.

It looks like it WAS indeed in the cards for October 2nd per here (I also see people mentioning that the Twitter live stream link for Starlink 10-10 was once posted in secret, now deleted): https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61584.msg2628591#msg2628591

There's an NGA notice for October 2 (posted above), which is still active. I'm not trying to say anything about whether 10-10 is going to launch on October 2 or not. I'm only saying that IMO it's absence from the FAA ATCSCC COPA is not meaningful.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #16 on:** 09/29/2024 10:19 pm »

Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA

292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

bman549 · « **Reply #17 on:** 09/29/2024 10:35 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 10:19 pm

Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA

292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

Over lapping with ULA launch window of 0600-0900L ?

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #18 on:** 09/29/2024 11:23 pm »

Quote from: bman549 on 09/29/2024 10:35 pm

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 10:19 pm

Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA

292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

Over lapping with ULA launch window of 0600-0900L ?

So far there are no NGA notices for ULA Cert-2.

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #19 on:** 09/30/2024 01:19 am »

No NOTAMs yet, but: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
SPACEX STARLINK 10-10, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL PRIMARY: 10/04 0805Z-1235Z BACKUP: 10/05 0743Z-1213Z 10/06 0721Z-1251Z 10/07 0659Z-1129Z 10/08 0637Z-1107Z