House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., confirmed to reporters that the deal was dead while leaving the Capitol on Wednesday night. [...] Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-Fla., told reporters while leaving Johnson's office in the early evening, "There will be a new CR likely tomorrow. They are negotiating right now. But there will be no votes this evening."
Can we expect a big upgrade of the 2025 budget for NASA?
Quote from: Tywin on 01/22/2025 01:24 amCan we expect a big upgrade of the 2025 budget for NASA?I doubt it. I'd guess Trump's budget proposal will get the money for the new people to Mars program from other parts of NASA's budget, e.g. the money freed by canceling SLS/Orion/Gateway, the planetary science money freed up by canceling Mars sample return and a reduction in earth science funding. I don't yet have a guess about what the budget that Congress will eventually pass will do.
Quote from: deltaV on 01/22/2025 03:53 amQuote from: Tywin on 01/22/2025 01:24 amCan we expect a big upgrade of the 2025 budget for NASA?I doubt it. I'd guess Trump's budget proposal will get the money for the new people to Mars program from other parts of NASA's budget, e.g. the money freed by canceling SLS/Orion/Gateway, the planetary science money freed up by canceling Mars sample return and a reduction in earth science funding. I don't yet have a guess about what the budget that Congress will eventually pass will do.People don't seem to get the point that we, as a people, are NOT ready to go to Mars. I wish I could say otherwise. By that, sure in a four or five years we could *probably* land there but that would be about it. We really have no idea how to live there nor will have the equipment to do anything meaningful. I think there are too many here who, to some extent, are greatly misinformed. Because Musk says something on Twitter, that it magically means SLS/Orion/Gateway will be cancelled and somehow all the work we've done on returning to the moon can magically be re-purposed toward Mars. It doesn't work that way. Do I believe SLS will be cancelled? Probably. But it will also be a transition, or it should be. We have the Artemis II core nearly complete, if not already. Artemis III is somewhere in the pipeline. Probably shouldn't just throw them away and give other *possibilities* time to take its place while still providing the cadence to return to the moon. People, including Musk, are also ignoring certain geo-political considerations. China says it is going to the moon by 2030. Also to the south pole. I think it is important to consider if we are not there, that China claims the entire moon for themselves. It's going to get bumpy in the next few months. Strap in.
Quote from: OM72 on 01/22/2025 05:40 pmPeople don't seem to get the point that we, as a people, are NOT ready to go to Mars. I wish I could say otherwise. By that, sure in a four or five years we could *probably* land there but that would be about it. We really have no idea how to live there nor will have the equipment to do anything meaningful. I think there are too many here who, to some extent, are greatly misinformed. Because Musk says something on Twitter, that it magically means SLS/Orion/Gateway will be cancelled and somehow all the work we've done on returning to the moon can magically be re-purposed toward Mars. It doesn't work that way. Do I believe SLS will be cancelled? Probably. But it will also be a transition, or it should be. We have the Artemis II core nearly complete, if not already. Artemis III is somewhere in the pipeline. Probably shouldn't just throw them away and give other *possibilities* time to take its place while still providing the cadence to return to the moon. People, including Musk, are also ignoring certain geo-political considerations. China says it is going to the moon by 2030. Also to the south pole. I think it is important to consider if we are not there, that China claims the entire moon for themselves. It's going to get bumpy in the next few months. Strap in. I think that most people on this Forum aren't assuming that all lunar activities will be cancelled. Most people think that changes to Artemis are coming and that some kind of commercial crew and cargo program to Mars will be initiated. Implementing these two things would be a huge accomplishment in and of itself. For human space exploration positive changes are coming.
People don't seem to get the point that we, as a people, are NOT ready to go to Mars. I wish I could say otherwise. By that, sure in a four or five years we could *probably* land there but that would be about it. We really have no idea how to live there nor will have the equipment to do anything meaningful. I think there are too many here who, to some extent, are greatly misinformed. Because Musk says something on Twitter, that it magically means SLS/Orion/Gateway will be cancelled and somehow all the work we've done on returning to the moon can magically be re-purposed toward Mars. It doesn't work that way. Do I believe SLS will be cancelled? Probably. But it will also be a transition, or it should be. We have the Artemis II core nearly complete, if not already. Artemis III is somewhere in the pipeline. Probably shouldn't just throw them away and give other *possibilities* time to take its place while still providing the cadence to return to the moon. People, including Musk, are also ignoring certain geo-political considerations. China says it is going to the moon by 2030. Also to the south pole. I think it is important to consider if we are not there, that China claims the entire moon for themselves. It's going to get bumpy in the next few months. Strap in.
