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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #280 on: 06/05/2025 12:27 am »
The parties filed #58 on June 3, a "JOINT MOTION TO RESCHEDULE HEARING ON CROSS-MOTIONS FOR PARTIAL SUMMARY JUDGMENT". Apparently there's a hearing scheduled for June 18 but the parties have scheduling conflicts and the parties would like to reschedule to July 23, 24, 29 or 30, or a later date if the court isn't available on those dates.

SpaceX filed #59 on June 3. SpaceX thinks the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Seven County Infrastructure Coalition v. Eagle County makes their case stronger.

The Plaintiffs filed #60 on June 4, which is "PLAINTIFFS’ RESPONSE TO INTERVENOR-DEFENDANT’S NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY". The plaintiffs give their reasons why they disagree with SpaceX's #59. Their arguments are too complicated for me to summarize easily.

#58 and #59 are available from Court Listener (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/?order_by=desc). #60 isn't yet.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #281 on: 06/06/2025 04:00 am »
On June 5 the parties filed a joint status report #61 (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/61/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/). Apparently the plaintiff's complaint has three theories for relief. The parties just briefed summary judgement for the first theory only with the other theories held in abeyance for now. "On April 24, 2025, the FAA released the Final Tiered Environmental Assessment for SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Vehicle Increased Cadence at the SpaceX Boca Chica Launch Site in Cameron County, Texas, along with a Mitigated Finding of No Significant Impact and Record of Decision." The Plaintiffs now plan to file a motion to amend or supplement their complaint regarding the second and third theories for relief to cover those April 24 actions. The Federal Defendants disagree that amending or supplementing the complaint is warranted but will wait until they see the proposed motion before explaining why. SpaceX believes the Plaintiffs should file a separate lawsuit to challenge the "April 2025 EA and FONSI/ROD".

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #282 on: 06/16/2025 06:32 pm »
The parties filed #58 on June 3, a "JOINT MOTION TO RESCHEDULE HEARING ON CROSS-MOTIONS FOR PARTIAL SUMMARY JUDGMENT". Apparently there's a hearing scheduled for June 18 but the parties have scheduling conflicts and the parties would like to reschedule to July 23, 24, 29 or 30, or a later date if the court isn't available on those dates.

Motion #58 appears to have been granted. From Pacer today:
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MINUTE ORDER. The in-person motions hearing currently scheduled on June 18 is hereby rescheduled to 2:00 PM on July 23, 2025. So ORDERED by Judge Carl J. Nichols on June 16, 2025. (lccjn2) (Entered: 06/16/2025)

I don't know if this hearing will be open to the public. If it is, there appear to be several options.

It looks like official transcripts are really expensive if purchased in the 90 days after the hearing (you have to pay for the court reporter's time) but cheaper thereafter (https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/sites/dcd/files/Transcript-Policy.pdf).

Listening to the hearing remotely may be possible if the judge approves: https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/national-audio-streaming-pilot-program or https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/public-access-teleconference-information.

If someone will be in DC ("one block west of the United States Capitol" according to https://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/court-location) at 2:00 PM on July 23, 2025, it may be possible to attend this hearing in person.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #283 on: 06/18/2025 12:33 am »
SpaceX filed #59 on June 3. SpaceX thinks the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in Seven County Infrastructure Coalition v. Eagle County makes their case stronger.

The Plaintiffs filed #60 on June 4, which is "PLAINTIFFS’ RESPONSE TO INTERVENOR-DEFENDANT’S NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL AUTHORITY". The plaintiffs give their reasons why they disagree with SpaceX's #59. Their arguments are too complicated for me to summarize easily.

The FAA filed #62 today, which is a response to #59 and #60. The PDF is available: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/62/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #284 on: 06/18/2025 01:45 am »
MINUTE ORDER. The 57 Joint Motion for Extension of Time is GRANTED. The Parties are ORDERED to file the appendix with excerpts of the administrative record on or before June 17, 2025. So ORDERED by Judge Carl J. Nichols on May 30, 2025. (lccjn2) (Entered: 05/30/2025)

The FAA filed #63, "ADMINISTRATIVE RECORD Notice of Filing Joint Appendix" today. It has 33 appendices: "Exhibit Index of AR Appendix" and "Appendix part 1" through "Appendix part 32".

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #285 on: 07/18/2025 10:23 pm »
On June 5 the parties filed a joint status report #61 (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/61/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/). ... The Plaintiffs now plan to file a motion to amend or supplement their complaint regarding the second and third theories for relief to cover those April 24 actions.

On July 14 the plaintiffs filed #64, "MOTION for Leave to File Amended and Supplemental Complaint". This is presumably the motion that was anticipated in the joint status report last month.

On July 18 someone filed #65, "Extension of Time to File Response/Reply".

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #286 on: 08/16/2025 05:10 pm »
A Response to motion was uploaded yesterday from the ongoing suit.

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As detailed below, Defendants request that the Court hold Plaintiffs’ Motion for Leave to File Amended and Supplemental Complaint (“Motion,”), Dkt. 64, in abeyance pending resolution of the summary judgment briefing currently before the Court. Alternatively, the Court should deny Plaintiffs’ Motion as untimely filed.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #287 on: 09/15/2025 09:55 pm »
Congrats, SpaceX

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #288 on: 09/15/2025 10:17 pm »
Congrats, SpaceX

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/sep/15/musk-spacex-texas-wildlife
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A US district court judge on Monday rejected a suit by conservation groups challenging the Federal Aviation Administration approval in 2022 of expanded rocket launch operations by Elon Musk’s SpaceX next to a national wildlife refuge in south Texas.

The groups said noise, light pollution, construction and road traffic also degrade the area, home to endangered ocelots and jaguarundis, as well as nesting sites for endangered Kemp’s Ridley sea turtles and for threatened shorebirds. US district judge Carl Nichols in Washington said FAA had satisfied its obligation “to take a hard look at the effects of light on nearby wildlife”.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #289 on: 09/15/2025 10:41 pm »
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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #290 on: 09/17/2025 11:06 pm »
I'm afraid I fell behind on updating this thread - lots of stuff has happened since my last post. The most important is in #70 and #71 the judge rejected the plaintiff's motion for partial summary judgement and granted the FAA and SpaceX's motions for partial summary judgement. I'm not sure but I don't think this ends the case completely, because of the word "partial" and because the summary judgement motions were for the first count only (and the plaintiffs can appeal). The judge's reasoning is in #70 (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/70/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/).

Edit: The conclusion of the judge's opinion:
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The PEA and the associated mitigated finding of no significant impact were not arbitrary
or capricious. Most of the PEA’s conclusions were well-reasoned and supported by the record,
and while parts of its analysis left something to be desired, even those parts fell “within a broad
zone of reasonableness,” Seven Cnty., 145 S. Ct. at 1513. The Court therefore grants partial
summary judgment to the government and to SpaceX. An order will be issued contemporaneously
with this decision.
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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #291 on: 09/18/2025 06:53 am »
I'm afraid I fell behind on updating this thread - lots of stuff has happened since my last post.


We're really glad to have you back with us; we've missed your coverage in this area. Hope everything is OK with you.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #292 on: 09/18/2025 01:05 pm »
I'm afraid I fell behind on updating this thread - lots of stuff has happened since my last post. The most important is in #70 and #71 the judge rejected the plaintiff's motion for partial summary judgement and granted the FAA and SpaceX's motions for partial summary judgement. I'm not sure but I don't think this ends the case completely, because of the word "partial" and because the summary judgement motions were for the first count only (and the plaintiffs can appeal). The judge's reasoning is in #70 (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/70/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/).

Edit: The conclusion of the judge's opinion:
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The PEA and the associated mitigated finding of no significant impact were not arbitrary
or capricious. Most of the PEA’s conclusions were well-reasoned and supported by the record,
and while parts of its analysis left something to be desired, even those parts fell “within a broad
zone of reasonableness,” Seven Cnty., 145 S. Ct. at 1513. The Court therefore grants partial
summary judgment to the government and to SpaceX. An order will be issued contemporaneously
with this decision.
this live thread is better than anything you find in newspapers. Beside informing such threads are an amazing public tool to freeze event development. You have no idea how many things are "disappeared" from public conscience because of "news curation"
Thanks for the effort and please keep such things up.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #293 on: 11/23/2025 04:34 am »
Plaintiffs gave up on 2nd and 3rd theories for relief, seems like it's over: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.254763/gov.uscourts.dcd.254763.73.0.pdf

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Therefore, it is Plaintiffs’ understanding that the Court has now ruled on the only claim
(or “theory for relief”) that is actively before the Court. Since Plaintiffs requested that the initial
version of the “second and third theories for relief” from the First Amended Complaint be
dismissed without prejudice, and their Motion for Leave to File the Second Amended and
Supplemental Complaint with the new versions of the “second and third theories for relief” was
never granted and has now been withdrawn, the supplemental claims and additional theories of
relief are not before the Court for resolution. If necessary, to effectuate this understanding,
Plaintiffs request that the Court deem their second and third theories for relief, which are not set
forth in a separate claim, see ECF No. 36 at 121-24, to have been voluntarily dismissed.

For these reasons, Plaintiffs do not believe that a Rule 54(b) certification or further
amendment of the Complaint is necessary before the Court may deem all matters before the
Court to be resolved and, on that basis, enter final judgment in this matter. The Court has
disposed of all the claims before it, and judgment is therefore final. In re Domestic Airline Travel
Antitrust Litig., 3 F.4th 457, 459 (D.C. Cir. 2021).

Plaintiffs respectfully request that the Court enter final judgment in this matter.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #294 on: 12/24/2025 11:36 pm »
We're really glad to have you back with us; we've missed your coverage in this area.

I may or may not stay back, but since I have no insider information anyone else can go to https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/?order_by=desc and view the current docket (sign up for alerts on that page if you want to be notified when something is added to the docket).

Plaintiffs gave up on 2nd and 3rd theories for relief, seems like it's over: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.254763/gov.uscourts.dcd.254763.73.0.pdf

In #76 on Dec 10 2025 (www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/76/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/) the judge ordered:
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Accordingly, it is hereby ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ second and third theories of relief are
DISMISSED WITH PREJDUICE.
This is a final and appealable Order.

IANAL but I think thespacecow is right that the case is now over at the district court level. However the plaintiffs may appeal something, e.g. their big loss in the summary judgement for the first theory of relief in #71, so the case may not be over at the appeals level. (A lawyer would presumably have a better idea how likely such an appeal is.)

IANAL so this is only a guess but it looks like if they want to appeal they have 60 days to do so (https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frap/rule_4) since a US agency (the FAA) is a party.

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Re: Environmental groups sue FAA over Starship approval
« Reply #295 on: 12/25/2025 01:02 pm »
IAL who doesn't really practice so fwiw... 

Claims 2 & 3 are entirely disposed of and not appealable because the plaintiff voluntarily released them. 

Claim 1 became appealable as of the December 10th final order.  This is because it was a non-final order previously and not certified.  If it was appealed now, it would be the following memorandum opinion being considered at the appellate level:
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67303601/70/center-for-biological-diversity-v-federal-aviation-administration/

Plaintiff's were arguing that the PEA findings under NEPA were arbitrary and capricious, a high burden and they couldn't persuade the judge there was any evidence of that.  And to whatever degree they might think the judge is wrong and they can somehow prove that point after winning an appeal....  On December 18th the House passed the SPEED act which is set to dramatically lower or erase NEPA requirements generally.  So the law is potentially shifting under them (if the Senate ratifies it) and not shifting in their favor. 

Imo the case is over.  If the plaintiffs had money to burn and only wanted delay they wouldn't have voluntarily dismissed the two claims.  Their one appealable claim is a high burden, possibly soon to be made higher by changing law, so spending money on delay at the appellate level gets them nothing either.  So no reason to appeal and they're not likely to do so.

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