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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #560 on: 07/29/2022 04:30 pm »
If memory serves, an extension had to be added to the jib on the crane for the top few sections of the tower at Starbase.  Does anyone recall if this was done before or after the launch table was lifted onto its legs?  Also, being that the lift of the launch table was done with two cranes at Starbase, perhaps it isn't going to happen at LC-39 until that new SpaceX branded crane spotted in Germany arrives at the Cape.
In the Everyday Astronaut video (1st interview set) I believe Patel said they used two cranes to save time. It would take about 3 days to update the crane since they had the other crane onsite it was easier to use both of them.
As to if this was done before the tower was completed I don't remember.
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #561 on: 07/29/2022 04:39 pm »
If memory serves, an extension had to be added to the jib on the crane for the top few sections of the tower at Starbase.  Does anyone recall if this was done before or after the launch table was lifted onto its legs?  Also, being that the lift of the launch table was done with two cranes at Starbase, perhaps it isn't going to happen at LC-39 until that new SpaceX branded crane spotted in Germany arrives at the Cape.
In the Everyday Astronaut video (1st interview set) I believe Patel said they used two cranes to save time. It would take about 3 days to update the crane since they had the other crane onsite it was easier to use both of them.
As to if this was done before the tower was completed I don't remember.

I seem to remember seeing pictures of second SpaceX livery LR-11000 being transported to a port in Europe a while back. The question is will it get to the Cape in time to help with the launch table lift?
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #562 on: 07/29/2022 05:08 pm »
If memory serves, an extension had to be added to the jib on the crane for the top few sections of the tower at Starbase.  Does anyone recall if this was done before or after the launch table was lifted onto its legs?  Also, being that the lift of the launch table was done with two cranes at Starbase, perhaps it isn't going to happen at LC-39 until that new SpaceX branded crane spotted in Germany arrives at the Cape.
In the Everyday Astronaut video (1st interview set) I believe Patel said they used two cranes to save time. It would take about 3 days to update the crane since they had the other crane onsite it was easier to use both of them.
As to if this was done before the tower was completed I don't remember.
They also mentioned the first launch table was massively overbuilt and the second one would be lighter.
Speaking to that is the table being assembled at one of the SpaceX hangers at CCSFS rather than at Roberts Road, meaning it has a longer and more tortuous route to LC-39A. The hanger likely allows outfitting on GSE inside the table before moving and in an indoor environment rather than outdoors at height as was done at Boca Chica.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #563 on: 07/29/2022 05:27 pm »
If memory serves, an extension had to be added to the jib on the crane for the top few sections of the tower at Starbase.  Does anyone recall if this was done before or after the launch table was lifted onto its legs?  Also, being that the lift of the launch table was done with two cranes at Starbase, perhaps it isn't going to happen at LC-39 until that new SpaceX branded crane spotted in Germany arrives at the Cape.
In the Everyday Astronaut video (1st interview set) I believe Patel said they used two cranes to save time. It would take about 3 days to update the crane since they had the other crane onsite it was easier to use both of them.
As to if this was done before the tower was completed I don't remember.
They also mentioned the first launch table was massively overbuilt and the second one would be lighter.
Speaking to that is the table being assembled at one of the SpaceX hangers at CCSFS rather than at Roberts Road, meaning it has a longer and more tortuous route to LC-39A. The hanger likely allows outfitting on GSE inside the table before moving and in an indoor environment rather than outdoors at height as was done at Boca Chica.

SpaceX is pretty good at scheduling and building.  That launch table must be getting worked on indoors and near LC39.

I expect to a see a much more complete launch mount this time around.  Lots of lessons to apply from BC, which now looks like it was placed long before it was ready.
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #565 on: 08/03/2022 11:03 pm »
New tank section lifted.




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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #567 on: 08/05/2022 03:04 pm »
I've uploaded 50cm resolution satellite imagery of 39A taken on 2022-08-04 here: https://soar.earth/maps/13046?basemap=Google+Street&pos=28.608625038475637%2C-80.60404923335018%2C18
There's been a lot of ground changes already  :)
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #568 on: 08/05/2022 03:26 pm »
Random question. Who controls access to Pad 39A? KSC or SpaceX Security?

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #569 on: 08/05/2022 03:27 pm »
I've uploaded 50cm resolution satellite imagery of 39A taken on 2022-08-04 here: https://soar.earth/maps/13046?basemap=Google+Street&pos=28.608625038475637%2C-80.60404923335018%2C18
There's been a lot of ground changes already  :)
 
 
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #570 on: 08/05/2022 03:31 pm »
Random question. Who controls access to Pad 39A? KSC or SpaceX Security?

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #571 on: 08/05/2022 04:34 pm »
I've uploaded 50cm resolution satellite imagery of 39A taken on 2022-08-04 here: https://soar.earth/maps/13046?basemap=Google+Street&pos=28.608625038475637%2C-80.60404923335018%2C18
There's been a lot of ground changes already  :)

is it just me or do the rings in red look small enough to go inside the rings circled in blue?  let me know if there is a discussion thread this should have gone in?  I could not find one.
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #572 on: 08/05/2022 05:07 pm »
Yeah in fact I wrote about that on my latest Starship roundup article last week. We believe the tank is the same inner shell/outer shell design as the cryogenic tanks at Starbase, just larger (outer shell is about 20m diameter vs 12m diameter outer shell for the Starbase ones). The thinking is this might be a LOX tank.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #573 on: 08/05/2022 06:42 pm »
https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1555617903734657024

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Here's another one from SpaceX and LC39A!

The Starship OLM legs. SpaceX recently poured concrete into them. As a result, white concrete & water mixture poured out of small outlets on the legs to release pressure and speed up the curing process.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #574 on: 08/05/2022 07:28 pm »
Looks like a different grade of steel than what they used at BC.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #575 on: 08/06/2022 12:59 am »
Looks like a different grade of steel than what they used at BC.

You can't tell the grade of steel visually. At the very least, you need microscopic examination of the grain structure and hardness testing. It does look like it has some kind of anticorrosion paint or coating applied, however.
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #576 on: 08/06/2022 02:50 am »
Point taken. I should have simply said that it looks different.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #577 on: 08/06/2022 11:05 am »
Point taken. I should have simply said that it looks different.
I concur.  Many more seams.  Not that it matters.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #578 on: 08/06/2022 12:38 pm »
In general they do it a little different here compared to BC
The shielding on the bottom inside of each leg is done now and there are no horizontal transverse beams between the legs here before concret-filling.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
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