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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #660 on: 09/20/2022 03:03 am »
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1571900828247629825

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Hey #StarshipAddicts, check out the massive  #WaterDeluge ring for the Pad39a OLM. If you zoom in you can see that this thing is going to be moving SERIOUS volumes of water. There are 192 nozzles that will create a waterfall between the OLM legs.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #661 on: 09/20/2022 09:15 pm »
SpaceX is certainly moving fast with LC-39A Starship complex.  https://twitter.com/JustinC78961574/status/1572318967515185154

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #662 on: 09/21/2022 12:54 pm »
Elon timeline:

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Not to get ahead of ourselves, but do you have an estimate for the first booster at 39A?

Pending Roberts Road, or can you ship vehicles from Starbase (which some people say isn't possible).

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1572568337263243264

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Probably Q2 next year, with vehicles initially transferred by boat from Port of Brownsville to the Cape

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #663 on: 09/21/2022 04:04 pm »
Elon timeline:

twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1572565037633667074

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Not to get ahead of ourselves, but do you have an estimate for the first booster at 39A?

Pending Roberts Road, or can you ship vehicles from Starbase (which some people say isn't possible).

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1572568337263243264

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Probably Q2 next year, with vehicles initially transferred by boat from Port of Brownsville to the Cape
Okayyyy. How does it get to Brownsville? Vertical on an SPMT or horizontal like they were thinking in Florida a while back? Either way would be a monumental PITA. A quick google does not show any LST type ships that are big enough. Pull up to the beach, an SPMT rolls on with the ship, and awayyy er go.
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #664 on: 09/21/2022 04:11 pm »

Okayyyy. How does it get to Brownsville? Vertical on an SPMT or horizontal like they were thinking in Florida a while back? Either way would be a monumental PITA. A quick google does not show any LST type ships that are big enough. Pull up to the beach, an SPMT rolls on with the ship, and awayyy er go.
There is an extensive thread on this topic at:
    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=55672.0
Partial consensus: It's a solvable problem, and vertical transport using SPMTs on a road from BC to the dock in Brownsville and vertical transport on a barge to Port Canaveral is the most likely solution.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #665 on: 09/27/2022 03:15 am »
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I couldn't hear the specifics of what Gerst said but last I heard SpaceX wanted to fly at least three orbital flights of Starship from Starbase before trying an orbital flight from LC-39A. That should be good enough data for it to be safe to launch from there.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #666 on: 09/27/2022 03:55 pm »
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I couldn't hear the specifics of what Gerst said but last I heard SpaceX wanted to fly at least three orbital flights of Starship from Starbase before trying an orbital flight from LC-39A. That should be good enough data for it to be safe to launch from there.
I wonder how many catches they will want to see at Starbase before they are willing to risk a catch at LC-39A?  Or, maybe some of the speculation is right and there will be a dedicated catch tower at another location (such as at LZ-1/2).

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« Reply #667 on: 10/02/2022 02:17 pm »
Launch Complex 39A from NOAA's Hurricane Ian imagery set. Taken on October 1st.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/ian/index.html#17/28.60739/-80.60346
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #668 on: 10/02/2022 07:29 pm »
Launch Complex 39A from NOAA's Hurricane Ian imagery set. Taken on October 1st.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/ian/index.html#17/28.60739/-80.60346
Minor imagery alignment mismatch in the top right corner during the imagery compositing/stitching and blending stages of processing and editing the image data got too complex for the automated software process.
« Last Edit: 10/02/2022 07:30 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #669 on: 10/03/2022 01:18 am »
Launch Complex 39A from NOAA's Hurricane Ian imagery set. Taken on October 1st.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/ian/index.html#17/28.60739/-80.60346
Minor imagery alignment mismatch in the top right corner during the imagery compositing/stitching and blending stages of processing and editing the image data got too complex for the automated software process.
I downloaded the raw files and here's the images without the bad joins :)
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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #670 on: 10/03/2022 08:02 am »
Launch Complex 39A from NOAA's Hurricane Ian imagery set. Taken on October 1st.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/ian/index.html#17/28.60739/-80.60346
Minor imagery alignment mismatch in the top right corner during the imagery compositing/stitching and blending stages of processing and editing the image data got too complex for the automated software process.
I downloaded the raw files and here's the images without the bad joins :)
Not new to these images, but I completely missed it when it actually happened and these just made the change obvious via the novel east-looking low angle: the first part of the VIF conversion for LC-39A happened sometime between 2019/09 and 2020/02 - the filling in of the 'notch' at the northernmost end of the flame trench with a new concrete slab.
- In the 2019/09 post-Dorian NOAA imagery the 'notch' is present.
- In the 2019/12 Google Earth imagery there is what appears to be rebar in place
- In the 2020/02 Google Earth imagery, the concrete is in place.
Still no sign of the elevated rails or new shear walls & foundation extensions, though.


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Also, going by the size of the hexagonal trench being dug around the base of the Starship launch mount legs, the hexagonal deluge nozzle assembly looks like it will be seated at the base of the OLM firing upwards, rather than 'hung' from the OLM ring and firing inwards as at Boca Chica.
« Last Edit: 10/03/2022 10:56 am by edzieba »

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #671 on: 10/05/2022 03:25 pm »
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Nice drone shot showing the Starship pad at 39A.

youtube.com/watch?v=vY0GHq…

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« Reply #672 on: 10/06/2022 12:35 pm »

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #673 on: 10/06/2022 11:22 pm »
Launch Complex 39A from NOAA's Hurricane Ian imagery set. Taken on October 1st.
https://storms.ngs.noaa.gov/storms/ian/index.html#17/28.60739/-80.60346
Minor imagery alignment mismatch in the top right corner during the imagery compositing/stitching and blending stages of processing and editing the image data got too complex for the automated software process.
I downloaded the raw files and here's the images without the bad joins :)

One addition, stitched three of them to show the surroundings :)

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« Reply #674 on: 10/07/2022 02:40 pm »
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What is suspected to be the water deluge hexagon structure is being lifted this morning at Launch Complex 39A at KSC. This structure is a beast.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #675 on: 10/07/2022 04:58 pm »
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Hey #StarshipAddicts! Check out this MASSIVE #WaterDeluge ring installed around the OLM base at Pad39a.

Thanks to @Lolomatico3d we can see what it looks like! This manifold is buried ~14ft underground so all 192  12inch nozzles are flush with the pad.

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Re: SpaceX Cape 39A Starship launch/landing facilities
« Reply #676 on: 10/07/2022 05:02 pm »
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1577742554799513607

Import to note as the CSI/Lab/Scott gang said sources confirmed it was for SpaceX and it was posted in this thread. Not SpaceX related.
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« Reply #677 on: 10/19/2022 06:05 pm »
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The speculated water tank is likely about to receive the first of two caps here in the next hour or so. The smaller yellow crane to the left is preparing to lift something large and circular.

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« Reply #678 on: 10/20/2022 03:02 pm »
Zach is usually really insightful in his observations but I can't understand why he thinks this is a water tank?  It's double walled, which surely is more likely to be a cryo tank, besides they already have a nice tall, white water tower there!

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« Reply #679 on: 10/20/2022 04:53 pm »
And another smaller, newer, soon-to-be black, and actual water tower that has been built north of the the methane sphere...

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