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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #60 on: 02/27/2018 01:17 am »
Unrelated, but I'd bet that CRS-14 will be tasked with returning Robonaut to Earth for repairs. https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/space-robots/robonaut-has-been-broken-for-years-and-now-nasa-is-bringing-it-home

Doubt Robonaut will get a chance to ride back up on Dragon, so I guess it's goodbye...

What makes you say that? Would be pretty sad to see it go to waste :(
Strip away the NASA PR and what exactly did it accomplish? Might have missed that but...

Robonaut basically broke down weeks after it was launched to the ISS and has very, very infrequently undergone unsuccessful repair attempts in the years since. Just a wall decoration at this point. Not really sure why it existed in the first place, but it really never had even a slight chance to do whatever it was supposed or hope to do

It always seemed to me like several different groups were approaching the same problems -- such as how to manipulate objects outside the station -- from different directions.

Primary means has been EVA, use suited astronauts to the best of their gloved hands' abilities.  But EVA is risky, certainly riskier than bouncing around inside the tin cans.  So, is there any way to do the things we've been doing via EVA without sending the crew outside?

One group developed DEXTRE, to try and do fine manipulation with an advanced arm end-effector.  Another group developed Robonaut, who has the same style of manual dexterity as a human's and can be controlled directly by human hands.

As of now, while DEXTRE is somewhat effective, neither it nor Robonaut has proven successful to the extent that EVA can be done away with.  And to be honest, Robonaut would never have done EVA in place of humans, it was a demo model, to see if it would work at all.

So, it looks like people in suits are still going to be called upon to effect repairs and such outside, on long voyages.
-Doug  (With my shield, not yet upon it)

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So, it looks like people in suits are still going to be called upon to effect repairs and such outside, on long voyages.

Precisely. At least so long as NASA is the one tasked with developing robotic EVA equipment...

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #62 on: 02/27/2018 05:50 am »
Well, the article that was originally mentioned in this thread says that Robonaut broke down when they tried to add the legs (because of issues with the upgrade). So while there may be other issues and limitations it kinda seems like that was why they stopped using it?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #63 on: 02/27/2018 01:53 pm »
Well, the article that was originally mentioned in this thread says that Robonaut broke down when they tried to add the legs (because of issues with the upgrade). So while there may be other issues and limitations it kinda seems like that was why they stopped using it?

Why did it need legs... in space?
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Well, the article that was originally mentioned in this thread says that Robonaut broke down when they tried to add the legs (because of issues with the upgrade). So while there may be other issues and limitations it kinda seems like that was why they stopped using it?

Why did it need legs... in space?

To attach itself to structure while having two hands for dexterity.

Another solutions could of course be devised, but the whole advertised point of Robonaut was to use an anthropomorphic figure in order to better utilize ISS' external interfaces, which were designed for human use (although, as we know, not so much for using both hands and feet at the same time, so the whole point of Robonaut was a bit dubious at best).
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #65 on: 02/27/2018 03:27 pm »
Well, the article that was originally mentioned in this thread says that Robonaut broke down when they tried to add the legs (because of issues with the upgrade). So while there may be other issues and limitations it kinda seems like that was why they stopped using it?
Why did it need legs... in space?
To attach itself to structure while having two hands for dexterity.

Another solutions could of course be devised, but the whole advertised point of Robonaut was to use an anthropomorphic figure in order to better utilize ISS' external interfaces, which were designed for human use (although, as we know, not so much for using both hands and feet at the same time, so the whole point of Robonaut was a bit dubious at best).

Robonaut's "snake legs" were a pleasant departure from its otherwise anthropomorphic design.  As this article (with video) says, "These legs are not for walking".

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #66 on: 03/05/2018 12:56 pm »
https://twitter.com/ASIM_Payload/status/970582752004362240
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Preparations for #CRS14 launch are on-going. One week from now, March 12, @ASIM_Payload is going into the Dragon trunk at @SpaceX  PPF, Cape Canaveral. Payload preps will be done March 9.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #67 on: 03/07/2018 01:21 pm »
[The Costa Rica Star] First Costa Rican Satellite will be Launched April 2
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Costa Rica will launch on April 2 its first satellite to the International Space Station from Cape Canaveral, Florida, U.S.A.

This initiative known as Irazu Project ... was designed to help with different environmental investigations.
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Since February 21 the device was delivered to the Japanese Agency for Aerospace Exploration (JAXA) which will be in charge of sending it to space together with other satellites and the supply equipment for the International Space Station (ISS) on April 2.

American company SpaceX is in charge of the launching, which will be done with the famous rocket Falcon 9.
« Last Edit: 03/07/2018 01:22 pm by gongora »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #68 on: 03/07/2018 01:28 pm »
UBAKUSAT too.
The cubesats Ubakusat and Ibazu will be deployed by J-SSOD during EC-55.
Launch could be on SpX-14.
http://iss.jaxa.jp/kiboexp/news/180228_ubakusat.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
http://iss.jaxa.jp/kiboexp/news/180228_irazu.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Launch in April confirmed.
https://twitter.com/JAXA_Kiboriyo/status/970582130408304640
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Ultra small satellite made by Turkey and Costa Rica was handed over to JAXA!
The satellite "UBAKUSAT" in Turkey is released from "Kibo" as part of a cooperative agreement on use of "Kibo" concluded between Turkey Transportation Maritime Communications Department and # JAXA in September 2016.
Costa Rica's satellite is the first satellite of Costa Rica, with the name "Irazu", cooperated with Kyushu Institute of Technology. The two satellites will be transported to the ISS around April and will be released during # Kanai astronaut 's stay.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #69 on: 03/07/2018 01:52 pm »
And also 1KUNS-PF.
http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2018/01/20180119_kibocube.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Deployment Schedule, 1KUNS-PF
January 16, 2018: 1KUNS-PF handed over to JAXA
Around March 2018: launch to the ISS
Spring timeframe 2018: deployment from Kibo with a robotic arm

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #70 on: 03/12/2018 07:19 am »
https://twitter.com/ASIM_Payload/status/972927879196508160
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@ASIM_Payload is in the #CRS14 Dragon Trunk. Secured and continuity on the heater connectors. Thanks @SpaceX. Great work. We are go for launch

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #71 on: 03/12/2018 03:54 pm »
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After a busy weekend, our #SpaceStormHunter is GO for launch on April 2 🚀 The 314 kg of the @ASIM_Payload are now sitting inside @SpaceX's #CRS14 Dragon at Cape Canaveral. All connections looking good! 👍
asim.dk/payload.php

https://twitter.com/esaspaceflight/status/973223552584306688?s=21

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #72 on: 03/12/2018 04:30 pm »
So Dragon is being mated to the second stage in the SPIF?  Or is this just an adapter mate?  Or have I mis-interpreted and this is in the spacecraft addition at SLC 40?

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Looks like the full stage (CRS-3):

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #73 on: 03/12/2018 04:35 pm »
So Dragon is being mated to the second stage in the SPIF?  Or is this just an adapter mate?  Or have I mis-interpreted and this is in the spacecraft addition at SLC 40?

 - Ed Kyle

I think the picture with Dragon in it is an older picture.  They're certainly not integrating it yet, the CRS-14 LV hasn't been through the static fire yet.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #74 on: 03/12/2018 04:42 pm »
File photo or fit check would be my guess.


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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #76 on: 03/14/2018 05:03 pm »
    Stephanie Murphy and Mark Gittleman, Alpha Space Test and Research Alliance – Murphy, founder of Alpha Space, and Gittleman, the company’s president and chief executive officer, will discuss Alpha Space’s Materials International Space Station Experiment flight facility (MISSE-FF). MISSE will be permanently installed on the exterior of the orbiting laboratory and provide the ability to test materials, coatings, and components in the harsh environment of space, with flight opportunities for experimenters approximately every six months. Testing on MISSE may benefit a variety of industries, including advanced manufacturing of products ranging from protective clothing for astronauts to solar cells.
    Kim de Groh, NASA’s Glenn Research Center – De Groh, a senior materials research engineer, will talk about how exposing 138 polymer and composite samples to the space environment, via MISSE-FF, will provide critical data to improve predictions of materials durability for spacecraft and component lifetimes in low-Earth orbit.
 
This suggest that MISSE-FF 1 will fly on SpX-14.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #77 on: 03/14/2018 05:14 pm »
    Stephanie Murphy and Mark Gittleman, Alpha Space Test and Research Alliance – Murphy, founder of Alpha Space, and Gittleman, the company’s president and chief executive officer, will discuss Alpha Space’s Materials International Space Station Experiment flight facility (MISSE-FF). MISSE will be permanently installed on the exterior of the orbiting laboratory and provide the ability to test materials, coatings, and components in the harsh environment of space, with flight opportunities for experimenters approximately every six months. Testing on MISSE may benefit a variety of industries, including advanced manufacturing of products ranging from protective clothing for astronauts to solar cells.
    Kim de Groh, NASA’s Glenn Research Center – De Groh, a senior materials research engineer, will talk about how exposing 138 polymer and composite samples to the space environment, via MISSE-FF, will provide critical data to improve predictions of materials durability for spacecraft and component lifetimes in low-Earth orbit.
 
This suggest that MISSE-FF 1 will fly on SpX-14.

Did RRM3 move to a later flight?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #78 on: 03/14/2018 05:17 pm »
    Stephanie Murphy and Mark Gittleman, Alpha Space Test and Research Alliance – Murphy, founder of Alpha Space, and Gittleman, the company’s president and chief executive officer, will discuss Alpha Space’s Materials International Space Station Experiment flight facility (MISSE-FF). MISSE will be permanently installed on the exterior of the orbiting laboratory and provide the ability to test materials, coatings, and components in the harsh environment of space, with flight opportunities for experimenters approximately every six months. Testing on MISSE may benefit a variety of industries, including advanced manufacturing of products ranging from protective clothing for astronauts to solar cells.
    Kim de Groh, NASA’s Glenn Research Center – De Groh, a senior materials research engineer, will talk about how exposing 138 polymer and composite samples to the space environment, via MISSE-FF, will provide critical data to improve predictions of materials durability for spacecraft and component lifetimes in low-Earth orbit.
 
This suggest that MISSE-FF 1 will fly on SpX-14.

Did RRM3 move to a later flight?
RRM3 or the PFCS.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-14 : April 2, 2018 - Discussion
« Reply #79 on: 03/14/2018 05:48 pm »
    Stephanie Murphy and Mark Gittleman, Alpha Space Test and Research Alliance – Murphy, founder of Alpha Space, and Gittleman, the company’s president and chief executive officer, will discuss Alpha Space’s Materials International Space Station Experiment flight facility (MISSE-FF). MISSE will be permanently installed on the exterior of the orbiting laboratory and provide the ability to test materials, coatings, and components in the harsh environment of space, with flight opportunities for experimenters approximately every six months. Testing on MISSE may benefit a variety of industries, including advanced manufacturing of products ranging from protective clothing for astronauts to solar cells.
    Kim de Groh, NASA’s Glenn Research Center – De Groh, a senior materials research engineer, will talk about how exposing 138 polymer and composite samples to the space environment, via MISSE-FF, will provide critical data to improve predictions of materials durability for spacecraft and component lifetimes in low-Earth orbit.
 
This suggest that MISSE-FF 1 will fly on SpX-14.

Did RRM3 move to a later flight?
RRM3 or the PFCS.
RRM3

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