Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : CSG-2 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 31 January 2022 (23:11 UTC)  (Read 102085 times)

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Sunset is at 22:56 UTC that day, about 15 minutes before launch. I wonder if we'll get that beautiful "twilight phenomenon" during launch, or will the sky be too bright?
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Sunset is at 22:56 UTC that day, about 15 minutes before launch. I wonder if we'll get that beautiful "twilight phenomenon" during launch, or will the sky be too bright?

Actually, per https://gml.noaa.gov/grad/solcalc/, and using the coordinates for SLC-40 (28.5619644 -80.5772274), sunset is at 22:54 UTC. So, it'll be 17 minutes after sunset. And I'm positive we'll get the "kerolox jellyfish" that night.
« Last Edit: 01/10/2022 07:45 pm by ZachS09 »
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According to Ben Cooper, the mission got delayed by three days. And we have a confirmation of another RTLS.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the CSG-2/Cosmo-SkyMed satellite to polar orbit on January 27 around 6:11pm EST. Sunset is 5:58pm. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
« Last Edit: 01/13/2022 09:13 pm by Elthiryel »
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Cross-post:
From what was known here in Italy, they agreed, of course, to use a re-flown Booster, but someone said that ASI asked a non extremely-used one, that would be a plausible and fair request.

Yet, alas, ASI denied since the day that was discovered the switch from VEGA to F9, to reply to any questions regarding F9 Booster, fairings, mission profile and recovery...
I sent the last request two weeks ago, no info given.

Possible first stages for CSG-2:
1052.3, 1061.6, or 1067.4.

My >guesses< regarding Static Fire or not would be:
Yes, if ASI pays for it, for any one of the boosters.

If the decision is SpaceX's alone:
1052.3 yes, first mission following conversion to single stick.
1061.6 and 1067.4 no.
« Last Edit: 01/17/2022 07:04 am by zubenelgenubi »
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Hello guys,
I need to know is LZ-1 cleared for landing or B1058 is still on the pad Or is the LZ-1 pad turnaround good in that case i think CSG-2 RTLS landing might be on LZ-2. In that case will it be first falcon 9 landing on LZ-2?? I don't think it needs significant trajectory and programming changes to shift the landing from LZ-1 to LZ-2. Or is the LZ-2 landing needing a longer boostback burn??
(Below is a falcon heavy trajectory that tells the trajectory for LZ-2)
« Last Edit: 01/17/2022 12:19 pm by Chinakpradhan »

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Hello guys,
I need to know is LZ-1 cleared for landing or B1058 is still on the pad Or is the LZ-1 pad turnaround good in that case i think CSG-2 RTLS landing might be on LZ-2. In that case will it be first falcon 9 landing on LZ-2?? I don't think it needs significant trajectory and programming changes to shift the landing from LZ-1 to LZ-2. Or is the LZ-2 landing needing a longer boostback burn??
(Below is a falcon heavy trajectory that tells the trajectory for LZ-2)

LZ-1 should easily be cleared by CSG-2's launch date. In fact, I would not be surprised if B1058 has already been taken down and moved out from the landing zone.
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Hello guys,
I need to know is LZ-1 cleared for landing or B1058 is still on the pad Or is the LZ-1 pad turnaround good in that case i think CSG-2 RTLS landing might be on LZ-2. In that case will it be first falcon 9 landing on LZ-2?? I don't think it needs significant trajectory and programming changes to shift the landing from LZ-1 to LZ-2. Or is the LZ-2 landing needing a longer boostback burn??
(Below is a falcon heavy trajectory that tells the trajectory for LZ-2)

LZ-1 should easily be cleared by CSG-2's launch date. In fact, I would not be surprised if B1058 has already been taken down and moved out from the landing zone.

Yes, the landing will be in LZ-1 and there are several reasons to justify it:


1. All the equipment and what is needed to support a ground landing is right now at LZ-1.
2. Recovery operations are easier at LZ-1 than at LZ-2.
3. LZ-2 has only been used for landing the Falcon Heavy side boosters and will continue to be used as such.
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Hello guys,
I need to know is LZ-1 cleared for landing or B1058 is still on the pad Or is the LZ-1 pad turnaround good in that case i think CSG-2 RTLS landing might be on LZ-2. In that case will it be first falcon 9 landing on LZ-2?? I don't think it needs significant trajectory and programming changes to shift the landing from LZ-1 to LZ-2. Or is the LZ-2 landing needing a longer boostback burn??
(Below is a falcon heavy trajectory that tells the trajectory for LZ-2)

LZ-1 should easily be cleared by CSG-2's launch date. In fact, I would not be surprised if B1058 has already been taken down and moved out from the landing zone.

Yes, the landing will be in LZ-1 and there are several reasons to justify it:


1. All the equipment and what is needed to support a ground landing is right now at LZ-1.
2. Recovery operations are easier at LZ-1 than at LZ-2.
3. LZ-2 has only been used for landing the Falcon Heavy side boosters and will continue to be used as such.
Any reason why Recovery operations are easier at LZ-1 than at LZ-2. Is it due to larger landing pad available at lz-1 Or something else??

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A quick look on Goggle maps shows the additional support equipment that's in place for LZ-1 that has to be brought in to support operations on LZ-2.
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A quick look on Goggle maps shows the additional support equipment that's in place for LZ-1 that has to be brought in to support operations on LZ-2.
That's right, and the road on LZ-1 seems to be easier to transport the booster.
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Cross-post:
From what was known here in Italy, they agreed, of course, to use a re-flown Booster, but someone said that ASI asked a non extremely-used one, that would be a plausible and fair request.

Yet, alas, ASI denied since the day that was discovered the switch from VEGA to F9, to reply to any questions regarding F9 Booster, fairings, mission profile and recovery...
I sent the last request two weeks ago, no info given.

Possible first stages for CSG-2:
1052.3, 1061.6, or 1067.4.

My >guesses< regarding Static Fire or not would be:
Yes, if ASI pays for it, for any one of the boosters.

If the decision is SpaceX's alone:
1052.3 yes, first mission following conversion to single stick.
1061.6 and 1067.4 no.

Edited

Cross-post re: Crew-4; strike 1067.4 for this launch:
Booster 1067-4 (from NAC meeting) [Jan 18]
And a new Crew Dragon

Edit Jan 23: Successful Static Fire.  First stage not yet identified.

Edit Jan 26: 1052.3

Edit Jan 31: Successful launch and LZ-1 landing.
« Last Edit: 02/05/2022 03:19 am by zubenelgenubi »
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NGA notices.

Quote from: NGA
220701Z JAN 22
NAVAREA IV 69/22(11,26,27).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
STRAITS OF FLORIDA.
OLD BAHAMA CHANNEL.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   272306Z TO 280004Z JAN, ALTERNATE
   2306Z TO 0004Z DAILY 28 JAN THRU 01 FEB
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-35-48N 080-35-01W, 28-37-00N 080-32-00W,
      28-35-00N 080-21-00W, 28-13-00N 080-09-00W,
      28-10-00N 080-15-00W, 28-10-00N 080-24-00W,
      28-26-43N 080-32-41W.
   B. 26-18-00N 079-22-00W, 26-18-00N 079-20-00W,
      25-29-00N 078-43-00W, 25-01-00N 078-44-00W,
      25-00-00N 078-51-00W, 25-28-00N 079-07-00W.
   C. 23-16-00N 079-31-00W, 23-28-00N 079-31-00W,
      23-38-00N 079-25-00W, 23-44-00N 079-13-00W,
      23-43-00N 079-02-00W, 23-38-00N 078-51-00W,
      23-28-00N 078-45-00W, 23-17-00N 078-45-00W,
      23-07-00N 078-51-00W, 23-01-00N 079-02-00W,
      23-01-00N 079-13-00W, 23-06-00N 079-24-00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 020104Z FEB 22.
Quote from: NGA
220733Z JAN 22
HYDROPAC 190/22(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   280041Z TO 280119Z JAN, ALTERNATE
   0041Z TO 0119Z DAILY 28 JAN THRU 01 FEB
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   39-10S 119-01W, 28-43S 117-27W,
   16-15S 114-20W, 03-31S 110-37W,
   03-57S 108-14W, 14-34S 108-52W,
   27-04S 111-28W, 39-42S 115-56W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 010219Z FEB 22.

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Vehicle on the pad venting, firing up at the top of the hour. No payload attached yet.

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Cleanish so more likely to be 1052.3? Any confirmation of this?

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Static fire complete! Appeared to be around 8 seconds in duration

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SFN Launch Schedule, January 23 update
CSG-2 launch time clarification to the second:
January 27 at 23:11:50 UTC.
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13 minutes after sunset, with a boostback / RTLS landing?  Yes please!

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13 minutes after sunset, with a boostback / RTLS landing?  Yes please!

That's about as perfect in timing that you can get.  Should be some epic pictures.
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13 minutes after sunset, with a boostback / RTLS landing?  Yes please!

That's about as perfect in timing that you can get. 
Should be some epic pictures.

But the public weather forecasts are for mostly cloudy weather at that time, and the sky won’t be totally dark, with the Sun less than 3 degrees below the horizon.
Let’s hope for the best.
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