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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #270 on: 01/24/2013 03:24 PM »
Rumour: I was told that there will be two more Zenit-3SL launches in 2013 after Intelsat 27. Probably in August and November. Satellites will be transferred from Proton-M rockets.
heard same thing with additional info that they will use backlogged Zenit's that are in storage. I cannot confirm as I have not found this anywhere else.

The two hardware sets were already sent to Baikonur. 
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/4396/

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #271 on: 02/04/2013 09:01 AM »
I hope its the right place to post this:

http://izvestia.ru/news/544220

Google translate doesn't make much sense so can anyone who understands Russian clarify this? Is V. Lapota asking Roscosmos to buy/bail out sea launch?

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #272 on: 02/04/2013 12:36 PM »
I hope its the right place to post this:

http://izvestia.ru/news/544220

Google translate doesn't make much sense so can anyone who understands Russian clarify this? Is V. Lapota asking Roscosmos to buy/bail out sea launch?

"Google translate doesn't make much sense..."
and that's because the original text does the same :)

Here is my translation (shortened for clarity) -
Title:
«МОРСКОЙ СТАРТ» ПРЕДЛОЖИЛИ ВЫКУПИТЬ ГОСУДАРСТВУ   
THEY OFFERED TO BUY OFF "SEA LAUNCH" TO THE GOVERNMENT.

Subtitle:
Head of Rocket and Space Corporation (RKK) "Energia" Vitaly Lopota proposed to transfer the control over "Sea Launch" project to the state.

First paragraph:
"I presented this idea during a visit to our factory Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin [my comment: on January 15, i.e., BEFORE the failure], - Lopota said to "Izvestiya" - No answer yet, but, in our view, the deal is beneficial for the state. Russia will get its own launch site on the equator for relatively little money. The volume of current liabilities "Sea Launch" today is a little more than $ 300 million"

[Later in the article Lopota says]:
“…to date, the portfolio of ‘Sea Launch’ has 12 starts, a number of orders is under discussion.”
[my comment – I’d love to see the list ;) ]
[another quote from Lapota, specifically difficult to translate]:
“We would like to have state support not only in the form of taking full responsibility of Sea Launch project. As a support, they could give us, for example, a pair of starts in the Federal Space Program. The government of Kazakhstan limited number of launches from Baikonur. Therefore, Sea Launch could be an alternative to alleviate this limitation”.

[“Izvestia” could not get an official response to Lapota’s statement]:
In Roskosmos officials declined to comment.
[The article also gives unnamed source in Russian Space Agency]:
“The "Energia" recently had difficulties with raising funds for refinancing "Sea Launch". In December 2012, Sberbank declined a loan of $ 200 million”.
“Voiced by Lapota amount "Sea Launch" debt of $ 300 million is questionable. Six months ago, we estimated debt of the project as $ 530 million”
[“Izvestia” quotes Yuri Koptev, the former head of Russian Space Agency]:
“As far as I know, today Sea Launch has only two satellite launches booked”.
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Square brackets = my comments.
One last detail – Lopota said that to become profitable Sea Launch needs to perform at least 6 launches per year. As I get it, they got no profit last year.
Bottom line: Looks like this failure puts Sea Launch in serious trouble. May be Elon Musk should consider, along with Boca Chica plans, buying their platform.  But, this is topic for another thread -
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31007.0

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #273 on: 02/04/2013 01:40 PM »
Somewhere in the threads was the point that Sealaunch needed 4 launches per year to break even.
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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #274 on: 02/04/2013 06:33 PM »

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #275 on: 02/05/2013 04:54 PM »
http://ria.ru/science/20130205/921318028.html

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The Government does not see the need to buy out the project "Sea Launch"

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #276 on: 02/22/2013 05:28 PM »
From Echostar 10-K

In addition, in connection with the Hughes Acquisition, we acquired contractual rights to receive $44 million in cash discounts on future launch services (“Credits”) and assigned an estimated fair value of $22 million to the Credits on the acquisition date, which was recorded in “Other noncurrent assets, net.”  In November 2012, we entered into an agreement for alternative launch services and determined that the potential to realize value from the Credits was less than previously estimated.  Based on an updated fair value estimate using unobservable inputs that considered factors such as the viability of the launch services provider and marketability of the Credits, we recognized a $22 million impairment loss to reduce the carrying amount of the Credits to their estimated fair value of approximately zero as of December 31, 2012.

http://sats.client.shareholder.com/secfiling.cfm?filingid=1104659-13-11985
Ouch.

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #277 on: 02/23/2013 04:53 AM »
I hope its the right place to post this:

http://izvestia.ru/news/544220

Google translate doesn't make much sense so can anyone who understands Russian clarify this? Is V. Lapota asking Roscosmos to buy/bail out sea launch?
http://www.itar-tass.com/c49/647309.html
Lopota denies offer to sell

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- How true appeared in the media about the possible purchase of "Sea Launch" state?
[ Lopota: ]Such statements that are attributed to me, do not. The fact that it is widely discussed in the press can be attributed to the conductors of unfair competition within the country. At a meeting in RSC "Energia", which is held in January Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin noted that the project "Sea Launch" - for now the only real project using technology that will allow our country in a reasonably short period of time and in an acceptable state for funding create a super-heavy carrier is required to address future challenges of research and exploration of deep space (Moon, Mars, asteroids, and so on). These technologies already have the necessary flight availability and can be incorporated in the next generation of promising for Russian launch vehicles.

Due to a number of publications, which distort the true state of work on "Sea Launch" in the Russian press, the company "Boeing" went to court in California. In this situation dealt with lawyers.

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #278 on: 03/04/2013 11:58 AM »
Launched:

Date – Satellite(s) – Zenit type/Upper Stage – Organization – Time (UTC)


February 1 - Intelsat 27 - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - 06:55:59 (Launch failure)

Sheduled:

Date – Satellite(s) – Zenit type/Upper Stage – Organization – Time (UTC)

2013

July 15 November – Amos-4 – 3SLB/DM-SLB – SIS - TBD
August November - TBD - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD

2014
TBD - Asiasat (TBD) - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD
TBD - TBD - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD
TBD - TBD - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD

2015
TBD - EchoStar (TBD) - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD

Unclear
2015-2017 - Hughes comsat - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD
2015-2017 - Hughes comsat - 3SL/DM-SL - SL - TBD

Changes on March 4th
Changes on March 18th
Changes on March 26th
Changes on March 28th
Changes on April 8th
« Last Edit: 04/08/2013 10:29 AM by Salo »

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #279 on: 03/18/2013 04:28 PM »
Sea Launch and EchoStar Reach Preliminary Agreement for Launch Services
Launch scheduled to take place in 2015

http://www.sea-launch.com/news-q11356-Sea_Launch_and_EchoStar_Reach_Preliminary_Agreement_for_Launch_Services.aspx

Bern, Switzerland and Englewood, Colorado, March 18, 2013 - Sea Launch AG and  EchoStar Satellite Services, a wholly owned subsidiary of EchoStar Corp. (NASDAQ: SATS), have announced that Sea Launch has been identified as the intended launch services provider for the launch of a satellite from the ocean-based Odyssey launch platform in 2015.

Sea Launch’s powerful Zenit-3SL vehicle is ideally suited for launching heavyweight-class spacecraft, with multiple restart capability and heavy-lift performance.  Sea Launch’s history with EchoStar dates back to 2003. Most recently it launched the EchoStar XI satellite.

Sergey Gugkaev, chief executive officer of Sea Launch, said, “Sea Launch welcomes the opportunity to support EchoStar’s launch requirement in 2015.”  Kjell Karlsen, president of Sea Launch, added, “We are pleased to extend our relationship with EchoStar and we look forward to providing the required flexibility, performance and diversity of supply necessary to support their business plan.”

“This preliminary agreement with Sea Launch provides EchoStar with the flexibility we require to accommodate our launch requirements as we undertake the expansion of our North American fleet," said Anders Johnson, president of EchoStar Satellite Services. “We have been pleased with Sea Launch’s performance on past missions and look forward to continued success.”

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #280 on: 03/22/2013 04:59 AM »
15/03/2013   Amos-4

Space International Services (SIS) will launch the Amos-4 communication satellite

Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has once again selected Space International Services for its commercial launch services – to orbit the Amos-4 satellite in 2013 for Spacecom (Israel), the Amos satellite fleet operator. Amos-4 will be the second Israeli satellite launched by Space International Services using Zenit-3SLB launch vehicle, following Amos-3 orbited in 2008. The satellite's weight at launch will be approximately 4.2 tons, demonstrating the significant increase in Zenit-3SLB performance.

The newest addition to the Spacecom's current Amos constellation – Amos-4 will offer customers Direct-To-Home (DTH), video distribution, VSAT communications and broadband Internet. Once the Amos-4 satellite launched, Spacecom will reach a big portion of the world's population, positioning the company as near global satellite services provider.

About Space International Services:

Space International Services, Ltd (Moscow, Russia) is a joint Russian-Ukrainian company, offering launch services for medium weight commercial satellites using Zenit-2SLB, Zenit-3SLB and Zenit-3F launch vehicles from Baikonur Space Center in Kazakhstan within the Land Launch program.

Since the inaugural launch of Amos-3 in 2008, four more missions were completed under Land Launch program (Telstar-11N, Measat-1R, Intelsat-15 and Intelsat-18).

About Israel Aerospace Industries:

Israel Aerospace Industries is one of Israel’s leading technological-industrial companies. The company is a world leader in a wide range of advanced technologies, including development, production, renovation, upgrading, repair and maintenance of aircraft, missiles, launchers, communications satellites, observation satellites and ground services, electronic systems, avionics systems, advanced radar, precision-guided munitions and unmanned aerial vehicles.

http://spaceis.ru/
« Last Edit: 03/22/2013 04:59 AM by Salo »

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #281 on: 03/28/2013 05:08 AM »
“We are confident in the return of Sea Launch. We may not fly on Sea Launch this year but there will be two Zenit flights to verify the system again,” Karlsen said, referring to the Zenit variant that launches from Baikonur. One launch will be commercial, he said later, and the other will be for the Russian government.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2266/1
« Last Edit: 03/28/2013 05:09 AM by Salo »

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #282 on: 03/28/2013 03:48 PM »
“We are confident in the return of Sea Launch. We may not fly on Sea Launch this year but there will be two Zenit flights to verify the system again,” Karlsen said, referring to the Zenit variant that launches from Baikonur. One launch will be commercial, he said later, and the other will be for the Russian government.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2266/1

Upcoming Federal space missions planned on Zenit-3SLBF/Fregat-SB (since Zenit-3SLB/DM-SLB version currently does not have any federal missions planned).
Here are the likely candidates for federal space missions, which are manifested in 2014 since there are currently none in 2013:
Electro-L No. 2
Lybid
Spektr-RG, MKA-PN3 (Konus-M)

Which one is likely to fly on the mentioned RTF mission that is federal payload?
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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #283 on: 03/28/2013 08:43 PM »
“We are confident in the return of Sea Launch. We may not fly on Sea Launch this year but there will be two Zenit flights to verify the system again,” Karlsen said, referring to the Zenit variant that launches from Baikonur. One launch will be commercial, he said later, and the other will be for the Russian government.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2266/1

Upcoming Federal space missions planned on Zenit-3SLBF/Fregat-SB (since Zenit-3SLB/DM-SLB version currently does not have any federal missions planned).
Here are the likely candidates for federal space missions, which are manifested in 2014 since there are currently none in 2013:
Electro-L No. 2
Lybid
Spektr-RG, MKA-PN3 (Konus-M)

Which one is likely to fly on the mentioned RTF mission that is federal payload?
Lybid is planned as payload for second RTF mission.

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Re: Sea/Land Launch schedule
« Reply #284 on: 04/10/2013 12:52 PM »
http://ria.ru/science/20130410/931897737.html

Is he saying that there would be one more sea launch this year? or this would be from Baikonur?
« Last Edit: 04/10/2013 12:53 PM by owais.usmani »

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