Author Topic: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates  (Read 75768 times)

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #200 on: 08/30/2010 09:29 PM »
Here's an updated list of hardware currently in the SSPF:

PMM "Leonardo".
MPLM FM-2 "Raffaello".
MPLM FM-3 "Donatello".
AMS-02.
ELC-3.
ELC-4.
LMC (x2).
Node 1 STA/Node 4/DHS.
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #201 on: 09/05/2010 12:46 PM »
What odds would you give Node 4 being added to ISS?
Anyone care to take a guess?

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #202 on: 09/05/2010 03:51 PM »
What odds would you give Node 4 being added to ISS?
Anyone care to take a guess?


I'd give it 80%

(but I'd want 100%) :)
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #203 on: 09/05/2010 04:04 PM »
What odds would you give Node 4 being added to ISS?
Anyone care to take a guess?


I'd give it 80%

(but I'd want 100%) :)

I'd say the biggest sticking point is funding.

Significant funding will be required to ready the Node for flight (it's essentially just a hollow shell at the moment), and a tug will need to be developed to allow the Node to RNDZ with the ISS.

If the tug were developed independent of the Node as a separately funded project, then it might be doable. They are currently looking at developing and independent tug, the ARDV (Advanced Rendezvous & Docking Vehicle), that could be used for a variety of other projects.
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #204 on: 09/05/2010 04:56 PM »
It might also be added that the tug is the biggest driving point for the project.

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #205 on: 09/05/2010 08:45 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. At least it's being given some consideration!
I remember there being some interesting discussion of a "smart Orion" where the service module could act as a tug. I'll try & find what I had on it, although at this juncture it could be pie in the sky. After shuttle I think some kind of tug will be needed.

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #206 on: 09/05/2010 09:41 PM »
Although at this juncture it could be pie in the sky.

As is most every space "plan" at the moment! ;)
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #207 on: 09/06/2010 02:08 AM »
Thanks for the feedback. At least it's being given some consideration!
I remember there being some interesting discussion of a "smart Orion" where the service module could act as a tug. I'll try & find what I had on it, although at this juncture it could be pie in the sky. After shuttle I think some kind of tug will be needed.

OSC has specifically designed the Cygnus Bus/SM to operate independently, a good jumping off point for a tug....
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #208 on: 09/06/2010 12:49 PM »
Just hypothetically, how many nodes could they keep adding to the "front" before it messes with stability? The russians have/plan to hang a lot of mass off the back side, so from my non technical perspective it wouldn't seem that outrageous to extend 1 or 2 more past node 4?

Or is this going off into fantasy land?

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #209 on: 11/08/2010 01:58 PM »
Two SLPs (Space Lab Palettes) in the SSPF. I think the one at the rear, with the frame-like construction, was likely used to transport the SSRMS & SPDM to ISS.

It's fair to assume that these will never be used again. I wonder if they're moving out?
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #210 on: 11/09/2010 08:58 PM »
Interestingly, looking at images of the STS-134 CEIT released today, it appears that ELC-5 is present in the SSPF!

We know that ELC-4 is currently in Discovery's PLB on LC-39A. Looking at this image, we can see ELC-3 in the foreground, and another "mystery" ELC in top-left corner (a close-up shot is attached).

A full-view shot of this "mystery" ELC is here.

I wonder why this ELC has suddenly showed up? I can't be a candidate for STS-135, as there are no free PASs/UCCASs on ISS to accommodate it.
« Last Edit: 11/09/2010 08:58 PM by Space Pete »
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #211 on: 11/10/2010 01:07 AM »
Pure speculation but maybe they will use it instead of an LMC to carry up spares on STS-135? Maybe bring down the broken radiator?

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #212 on: 11/10/2010 01:18 AM »
The HRSR idea is good!

I've been thinking of how ELC-5 could be added to ISS permanently - suppose we swap it with the smaller ESP-3?

Something like the following could be done:

1) Transfer all ORUs from ESP-3 to other sites with the SSRMS (there will be lots of unoccupied FRAMs on ELC-4 once it is on-orbit).

2) Once emptied of ORUs, place ESP-3 atop the MBS with the SSRMS, as was done on STS-126.

3) Once STS-135 docks, attach ELC-5 to ESP-3's old home on the S3 lower outboard PAS.

4) Place ESP-3 in the Shuttle PLB with the SSRMS.

5) Post-undocking, transfer some ORUs to ELC-5 with the SSRMS. (Or, if ELC-5, was launched full, leave all ORUs where they are.)

Maybe ESP-3 could even be left permanently atop the MBS as a temporary ORU storage platform?

At least one Stage EVA would be required to transfer the ORUs from ESP-3, as the ORUs on ESP-3 don't have FRGFs.

If ELC-5 needed to be hooked up to the ISS, then maybe that task could be added to the PM LMC transfer EVA during STS-135?
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #213 on: 12/16/2010 06:20 PM »
Has anyone seen any recent updates/info regarding node 4?
Are they still working on corrosion? Thanks.

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #214 on: 12/21/2010 04:55 PM »
Covering the Node 1 STA & AMS for the holidays.
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #215 on: 12/21/2010 05:18 PM »
ok, I don't think the roof leaks. What's the purpose of the cover on node 4?

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« Reply #216 on: 12/21/2010 05:24 PM »
ok, I don't think the roof leaks. What's the purpose of the cover on node 4?

Dust? ???

Anyway, AMS is now covered.
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #217 on: 12/21/2010 06:03 PM »
Dust

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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #218 on: 12/21/2010 07:13 PM »
"AMS Hurricane Cover"?? ???
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Re: Modules currently in SSPF / Webcam updates
« Reply #219 on: 12/21/2010 07:18 PM »
"AMS Hurricane Cover"?? ???

It was here during the hurricane season.  If they had to shutdown KSC for a hurricane, a cover is a good idea and is SOP.

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