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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #40 on: 03/01/2007 03:05 PM »
I watched it with my wife, we enjoyed every minute of it. Hope they make it pay and can continue to provide a brief suspension of disbelief. I consider it essential that private investment supports a belief that you can live your dreams. Astronauts willing to risk life, fortune, and future on the complexities of space flight cannot succeed without deep pocket financial support. This movie conveyed that risk faithfully, technical details notwithstanding. I had to laugh at the media scattering because a rocket was headed their direction, CG effects made splinters from the fence appear to be the big danger.
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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #41 on: 03/01/2007 04:56 PM »
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vanilla - 1/3/2007  3:53 AM

I saw it and thought it was sweet and enjoyable.  Kind of like "The Right Stuff" meets "Field of Dreams". Technical accuracy ... don't look for that.  But I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
where kids love and admire their parents

I almost want to go see any movie rated PG these days just to support the rating.  Hollywood still hasn't figured out that clean family films make money.  I don't expect they ever will.

Well the movie should be praised for that at least.

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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #42 on: 03/01/2007 08:24 PM »
Gonna go off-topic here for a minute, so please forgive...

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vanilla - 28/2/2007  7:53 PM

I saw it and thought it was sweet and enjoyable.  Kind of like "The Right Stuff" meets "Field of Dreams". Technical accuracy ... don't look for that.  But I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
where kids love and admire their parents

I almost want to go see any movie rated PG these days just to support the rating.  Hollywood still hasn't figured out that clean family films make money.  I don't expect they ever will.

That's because watching a movie about a family eating dinner together, going to church, and not having affairs is about as exciting as watching paint dry. A good story requires conflict, and the more complex the conflict, the better the story. That's why most fiction (books and movies) covers controversial ground that might not be appropriate for kids.  It's exciting to have an affair, it's exciting to wantonly break the law, it's exciting to go to war, it's also insipidly stupid and damaging to all involved--though that rarely get's illustrated in movies (while books sometimes do a better job).

Clean family films attract moviegoers with young kids who don't mind being bored stupid in order for their kids to get a chance at clean entertainment. That's, sadly, a pretty small segment of the population and is the reason why those kinds of movies actually don't make money.

The only time a movie like that makes any money is when people are tricked into seeing it, as in "Bridge to Terabithia" which was a good clean book and a good clean movie, but if you go without reading the book and expect a story based on the advertisemets, you'll be in for a surprise.

I'll probably rent the Astronaut Farmer out of loyalty to the space genre, but my expectations will be low. I'd probably give it a good rating if Thornton ends up blowing himself to kingdom come, thus doing us the double-favor of illustrating just how dangerous and difficult spaceflight really is and transforming a weakly campy comedy (in the classical sense) into a shocking and gut-twisting tragedy, but I somehow doubt that's gonna happen.
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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #43 on: 03/01/2007 08:50 PM »
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Marcus - 1/3/2007  4:24 PM
That's because watching a movie about a family eating dinner together, going to church, and not having affairs is about as exciting as watching paint dry. A good story requires conflict, and the more complex the conflict, the better the story.

To be clear, the fault I find with the movie is not that it was boring because it depicted a family, or that it lacked conflict.  In fact, the family scenes were sweet, and the movie was full of conflict in every scene -- the little guy against his faux friend at the bank, the little guy against the FBI, the little guy against the governmental panel, the little guy against the media, the little guy against the psychologist, etc etc.  

The fault I find with the movie is that the conflict portrayed is cliche, predictable, and shallow.  Perhaps it could be viewed as an inspirational ballad or personal anthem, but it isn't my cup of tea.

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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #44 on: 03/01/2007 10:08 PM »
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braddock - 1/3/2007  1:50 PM
The fault I find with the movie is that the conflict portrayed is cliche, predictable, and shallow.  Perhaps it could be viewed as an inspirational ballad or personal anthem, but it isn't my cup of tea.

But the only way to make it not cliche, predictale, and shallow is to have the little guy lose and see his dreams crushed and ground into the dirt. While this is a good analogue of real life and scores high marks with you, me, and some critics, it is not the kind of movie Oprah likes or that most people will pay money to see.
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #45 on: 03/01/2007 11:34 PM »
Two vastly differing opinions, posts by "braddock" and "vanilla" prove something I have believed for quite some time:
Those who are close to the subject matter of any particular movie will be its harshest critics.

I agree with "vanilla's" reasons, that being it's family-friendliness.

Now, that said, I'd like to do a little more research, based upon the ages of those who have seen it. When I (age 51) took my 14 year-old son to see the show, I noticed that those who were in the theater were overwhelmingly senior (over 60) citizens, with one 30-something father and his 8-year old (estimated) son.

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #46 on: 03/02/2007 12:05 AM »
Pretty darn boring movie overall... And sad that even a film with "basic" family values in it still is inappropriate to take your family to. WHY must they throw in profanity? I just don't get it. Embarassing when you can't take kids to see a movie like this without cringing.

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« Reply #47 on: 03/02/2007 01:26 AM »
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rdale - 1/3/2007  8:05 PM

Pretty darn boring movie overall... And sad that even a film with "basic" family values in it still is inappropriate to take your family to. WHY must they throw in profanity? I just don't get it. Embarassing when you can't take kids to see a movie like this without cringing.

You make a great point...one which has also been mentioned on the "Ghost Whisperer" site.
One of the best movies I have is the broadcast version of "Aliens". It contains none of the language of the theater version, yet the story loses nothing.

But even "Star Trek" movies are rated PG, because unless it's a children's movie, the conventional Hollywood wisdom is that adults will not go to see a "G" rated movie.

It looks like with even a three-star rating, this movie will be available on DVD before Memorial Day.  :frown:

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #48 on: 03/05/2007 07:34 PM »
Saw it, sorta liked it. I'll give it a "B."
I was annoyed by the glaring technical mistakes/oversights/liscenses. The movie itself was okay, though except for the whole Deus Ex Machina thing. I mean, the screenwriters couldn't come up with anything better than THAT??
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