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"Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« on: 01/31/2007 08:47 AM »
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In the upcoming Warner Brothers' feature film The Astronaut Farmer, Billy Bob Thornton plays the role of Charles Farmer, a former astronaut who never flew in space but who decides to accomplish his dream of reaching orbit by building his own rocket. To do so, Farmer draws from designs of the past, basing "The Dreamer," his spacecraft, on the historic Mercury-Atlas that carried the first Americans to orbit in the 1960s. The Astronaut Farmer opens in theaters 45 years (plus three days) after astronaut John Glenn rode his Mercury-Atlas into U.S. history.

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #1 on: 01/31/2007 01:56 PM »
Interesting that I saw for the first time this morning previews for this. (Coincedentally enough right after a brief mention of the Sea Launch "anomaly") Wonder if this will be one worth seeing?  Good to see that they tried (as much as is possible in Hollywood) to be accurate with the LV
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #2 on: 01/31/2007 02:21 PM »
Billy Bob Thornton is always worth watching.

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« Reply #3 on: 01/31/2007 05:42 PM »
The trailer looks quite interesting, Billy Bob is a very good actor!

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #4 on: 01/31/2007 10:53 PM »
I plan to go watch it, with my son.  Should make for a good father/son outing (maybe daughter, too, as my eight year old girl loves flying model rockets with us!).
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #5 on: 02/01/2007 12:24 AM »
Thanks for the trailer post. I was wondering what type of rocket they'd use, and using one with a historical record gives it the "he just might do it" validity the movie needs. Now, if they said that you could find everything you needed off the Internet, people would start trying to build serious rockets. What was the propellant then? LOX and kerosene? You can certainly buy water-white kerosene for heaters, or diesel fuel, and I have enough contacts to get enough LOX.
I got a chuckle out of the "Find out enerything you can on this space cowboy" line. Since he had been in their program, his record should be one or two mouse clicks away. It dovetails nicely with the "If I were building a weapon of mass destruction...you'd never be able to find it" line. I fear that our favorite taxpayer-sponsored space agency will be pilloried as being unable to find its you-know-what with both hands.

They don't need that these days...

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #6 on: 02/01/2007 01:40 AM »
Actually, I think this is exactly what NASA needs.  I think people will be much more inspired by space if they think there are ways to get there that aren't through NASA - I know I am. I thumb my nose at the excessively political astronaut corps selection process (let alone the flight assignment process) and its outdated LASIK rules.  NASA as a concept doesn't get in the way of private spaceflight, but as Rutan would say we have too many nay-sayers in our ranks.  Government procurement and technical processes are too slow.  I desperately hope Atlas V + Bigelow beats Ares I + Orion to orbit.
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #7 on: 02/01/2007 01:46 AM »
sounds like sour grapes.
NASA just isn't manned spaceflight

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« Reply #8 on: 02/01/2007 01:50 AM »
Well, I hope to see the private sector do well also, but until someone orbits the planet, they haven't done anything.

But that's just how I feel. Someone will eventually do it, but the facts are that it takes cubic dollars, and NASA has those dollars.

I suspect that you have been "rejected" as I have...it's better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all. In my case, it was simple: no one in the Astronaut Corps has ever put a megawatt of power on the grid, and I don't have one of the basic requirements: a four-year degree.

But having the wrong skillset is no reason to feel badly, just go out and excel at whatever it is you do.
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #9 on: 02/01/2007 07:01 PM »
I'm actually curious to see this one.  Armageddon was a great movie.  Certainly not because it was accurate...it was anything but.  It was a fun, fast-paced thrill ride for the summer that excited people about manned spaceflight.  I think this was the point.  It might be so with The Astronaut Farmer as well.  I intend to see it.
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« Reply #10 on: 02/03/2007 01:00 AM »
I am really looking forward to this movie, it reminds me of a news story I saw a few years ago about a man in Texas who was a multi-millionaire toy maker who was building his own rocket in his shop. Havn't heard anything about it recently but it sounds very similar.

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #11 on: 02/03/2007 12:09 PM »
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I am really looking forward to this movie, it reminds me of a news story I saw a few years ago about a man in Texas who was a multi-millionaire toy maker who was building his own rocket in his shop. Havn't heard anything about it recently but it sounds very similar.

You're probably talking about the "Volksrocket" that gentleman was building.  I recall reading about his efforts in the STAR talboid back in 1979 (remember it fairly well, as I was a newsletter editor of The Orange
Rocketeers, a publication for the model rocket club/Section of the same name, and got permission from the
STAR editors to repost).  This Volksrocket builder was a former NASA engineer who was able to obtain
surplus parts for his creation.  

Do an internet search of "Volksrocket" and/or Bob Traux and see what you can come up with...
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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #12 on: 02/03/2007 01:57 PM »
I think he is referring to Project R.U.S.H.  The website used to be rocketguy.com.  It appears to no longer exist.  

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« Reply #13 on: 02/03/2007 05:57 PM »
I saw a trailer for this this morning, and it looks like he actually does launch...hey, even if he "only" goes suborbital, he's done what Alan Shepard did.

Three years ago, a whole lot of people built Wright Flyer replicas, and some of them flew quite well. My favorite is the one with the Harley-Davidson engine.

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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #14 on: 02/19/2007 01:58 PM »
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Astronaut Farmer gains terrible reviews
« Reply #15 on: 02/23/2007 11:42 PM »
Really is getting dissed heavily for being a really poor film :(

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« Reply #16 on: 02/23/2007 11:53 PM »
Links?

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« Reply #17 on: 02/24/2007 12:01 AM »
Oh I don't know... http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/astronaut_farmer/

60% positive is okay I guess.  Can't this go in the existing thread?

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« Reply #18 on: 02/24/2007 12:03 AM »
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Really is getting dissed heavily for being a really poor film :(

Not universally.  The L.A. TIMES liked it.

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« Reply #19 on: 02/24/2007 12:04 AM »
Looking at rottentomatoes.com, it seems to be getting somewhat decent reviews. A score of 60% on that site isn't too horrible.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/astronaut_farmer/

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« Reply #20 on: 02/24/2007 12:07 AM »
BXmojo has it as overall rating D from 200 pollsters. http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/07/02/23/100ae_ae11astronaut001.cfm is a good example of reviews. "worthless movie."

'Astronaut' lacks the right stuff http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/entertainment/movies/newreleases/article_1587959.php

GMP gives it two stars out of five.

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Re: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #21 on: 02/24/2007 02:09 AM »
I didn't think this would be my first post, but I have to do it. I just saw this movie, it was terrible. The only space knowledge I have is from this site, but it has served me well. Even I was able to pick out many errors.

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"The Astronaut Farmer"- a NASA-friendly movie!
« Reply #22 on: 02/24/2007 11:14 AM »
I took my 14 year old son to see it yesterday afternoon, and I have to say that I liked it. There was something for everyone in it, from the physics wonks to the family guys (like myself).

The story is well-grounded in known physics. The lead character, Charles Farmer, played by Billy Bob Thornton, was in the astronaut program when a family emergency caused him to leave. We find out that he's more than qualified to construct, from surplus components, a Mercury/Atlas rocket exactlly like the one which carried John Glenn into orbit. The only concessions to modern tech are computer controls inside the capsule and control center (for telemetry), and additional oxygen supplies. These would come in handy.

His goal is to make three orbits.

Bruce Willis plays a part as an Air Force colonel who comes to visit Farmer after news of his endeavor goes worldwide. In a tip of the hat to "Armageddon", the two were in the same astronaut class, and Willis offers Farmer a seat on a Shuttle mission if only he'll give up his dream rocket.

A tempting choice...

I will not reveal more, other than to say that the only fault I found was where his capsule landed after his flight.

If there were things I could change about the movie, which begins with Farmer riding his horse at sunrise in search of a wayward calf, it would to have him stop to watch the ISS pass overhead (something I do every time the weather permits), and to replace Elton John's "Rocket Man" with "Answer In The Sky".

All of the answers to all of Farmer's questions were found there...

And like "Armageddon", Jay Leno gets to make two appearances, and Farmer gets to be a "star".

The movie treats NASA quite fairly, reserving its skewers for the FAA.

Take your families. Some critics have compared "Astronaut Farmer" to "Field of Dreams", but it lacks the two connections "Field" has, baseball, and actually connecting with our deceased parents.

Instead, it shows us a man who connects with the living, his family, and inspires a lot of people along the way.

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« Reply #23 on: 02/24/2007 11:29 AM »
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Really is getting dissed heavily for being a really poor film :(

Many of you weren't alive when the first "Star Wars" came out. The critics were all over it, but the public loved it.

That's why they have "People's Choice" awards, because sometimes the Oscars just don't make sense.

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« Reply #24 on: 02/24/2007 07:02 PM »
I'm going to see it and I'll probably enjoy it.

The basic idea is very much like a story I published in _Analog Science Fiction and Fact_ back in 1996 called "Amateurs", but different enough that I probably can't sue.

But I even liked "Independence Day."

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« Reply #25 on: 02/24/2007 07:23 PM »
Went to see it and it was terrible. It's a girly film based on stupidness. Nearly walked out half way through. Boring.

Explains why there's more F ratings than any other rating. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=astronautfarmer.htm

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« Reply #26 on: 02/25/2007 02:12 AM »
I saw the movie tonight with my wife.  Lots o improbable stuff (the Atlas flying at 5 feet off the ground and not incenerating the news crews when it passes by) but I really liked the movie for the message that you can do anything that you put your mind to do.


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« Reply #27 on: 02/25/2007 02:38 AM »
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Went to see it and it was terrible. It's a girly film based on stupidness. Nearly walked out half way through. Boring.

Explains why there's more F ratings than any other rating. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=astronautfarmer.htm

Really, what did you think of it.../ ;)

So what if it has as much to do with the current state of spaceflight as "Field of Dreams" has to do with pro baseball?
Maybe it's actually about following through on your life's dreams?...I wanted to be a Top 40 DJ and wound up standing beneath Endeavour with my family. But since radio doesn't pay as much as I'm currently making, maybe I'll live my dream after I retire.  :laugh:

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« Reply #28 on: 02/25/2007 02:41 AM »
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I saw the movie tonight with my wife.  Lots o improbable stuff (the Atlas flying at 5 feet off the ground and not incenerating the news crews when it passes by) but I really liked the movie for the message that you can do anything that you put your mind to do.


LOL! When I saw that part, all I could think of was the part in "Armageddon" where ...

"Rockhound: I remember this one! This is one where the coyote sat his ass in a slingshot then strapped himself to an acme rocket. Is that what we're doing here?
Truman: [under his breath] Rockhound.
Rockhound: No really, cos it didn't...
Harry Stamper: [shouting over Rockhound] Hey Rock!
Rockhound: ...work out too well for the Coyote, Harry!
Truman: We have a lot better rockets than the Coyote.

All that they needed to make that scene "perfect" would be to have had some kid driving a Plymouth Road Runner on that road, and just as he blows that famous "beep-beep" horn, Farmer's rocket blows past!

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wingod - 24/2/2007  10:12 PM

I saw the movie tonight with my wife.  Lots o improbable stuff (the Atlas flying at 5 feet off the ground and not incenerating the news crews when it passes by) but I really liked the movie for the message that you can do anything that you put your mind to do.


LOL! When I saw that part, all I could think of was the part in "Armageddon" where ...

"Rockhound: I remember this one! This is one where the coyote sat his ass in a slingshot then strapped himself to an acme rocket. Is that what we're doing here?
Truman: [under his breath] Rockhound.
Rockhound: No really, cos it didn't...
Harry Stamper: [shouting over Rockhound] Hey Rock!
Rockhound: ...work out too well for the Coyote, Harry!
Truman: We have a lot better rockets than the Coyote.

All that they needed to make that scene "perfect" would be to have had some kid driving a Plymouth Road Runner on that road, and just as he blows that famous "beep-beep" horn, Farmer's rocket blows past!

LOL!

I had not thought of that angle.  Very funny!


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RE: "Astronaut Farmer" features Mercury rocket
« Reply #30 on: 02/25/2007 06:53 PM »
I saw it and loved it.  If you want to see a movie about rockets and space exploration, then this movie is probably not going to satisfy that desire.  However, if you are looking for an inspiring, feel-good family movie about never giving up on your dreams, then this is a great film.  

Sure, there were many technical inaccuracies, but the rocket is not what this movie is about.

Great movie :)

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« Reply #31 on: 02/25/2007 07:13 PM »
I guess I just thought a lot was pretty ridiculous, but there were definitely some entertaining aspects of the movie.

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« Reply #32 on: 02/25/2007 07:36 PM »
You know, one of the things I found lacking was the Internet community. A few years ago, a B-17 ran off the end of a runway in Chippewa, PA, and people with the requisite skills all came forth to make necessary repairs.

So, where was "AstronautFarmer.com", and cameo shots of Burt Rutan and others commenting on the role of private enterprise in spaceflight?

But maybe after the media circus which characterized his first attempt, he decided to keep the effort on the QT.

I'm a sucker for movies with this message, and I have photos of me and both of my sons sitting on Don Lansing's porch swing in Iowa.
Sometimes you just *have* to go the distance...it will be interesting to see if "Farmer" displaces "Ghost Rider" at the box office.

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« Reply #33 on: 02/25/2007 08:34 PM »
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...it will be interesting to see if "Farmer" displaces "Ghost Rider" at the box office.
Unfortunately, it did not, at least not its opening weekend. "Ghost Rider" ranked #1 for the weekend with a projected $19.7 million. "The Astronaut Farmer" placed 9th with $4.5 million. The top three were completed by "The Number 23" and "Bridge to Terabithia".

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« Reply #34 on: 02/28/2007 05:33 PM »
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it will be interesting to see if "Farmer" displaces "Ghost Rider" at the box office.

That's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

The film has flopped, badly.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2007&wknd=08&p=.htm

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« Reply #35 on: 02/28/2007 05:35 PM »
It's got to make $26m on the 50/50 rule to just break even on its production budget (DVD sales etc. pay for marketing and other costs), so at $4m opening week, it'll make a big loss.

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« Reply #36 on: 03/01/2007 02:41 AM »
I just saw the first half of the movie.  Trite and sentimental.  I won't be watching the second half.

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« Reply #37 on: 03/01/2007 02:53 AM »
I saw it and thought it was sweet and enjoyable.  Kind of like "The Right Stuff" meets "Field of Dreams". Technical accuracy ... don't look for that.  But I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
where kids love and admire their parents

I almost want to go see any movie rated PG these days just to support the rating.  Hollywood still hasn't figured out that clean family films make money.  I don't expect they ever will.

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« Reply #38 on: 03/01/2007 05:22 AM »

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vanilla - 28/2/2007  10:53 PM  I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
kids love and admire their parents

Nailed most of my reason for LOVING it. My family saw it together (me, wife, 5 year old son) and we loved those things about it, and just enjoyed the movie as a movie... we weren't looking for a technical treatise on building and launching a rocket... we just loved seeing the family as a family should be, and the rocket stuff was super fun (and actually pretty spectacular) icing.

My son and I have started building and flying model rockets and learning about space together so when this came out it was a natural "must see"... we even spotted our first rocket in the movie (Estes NSA Starship) which was an AWESOME moment for both of us, but he could barely contain himself pointing at the screen to make sure I saw it too!

Some things should just be enjoyed and not have to be perfect... great movies (and this is a great movie) are far too rare... crap like Ghost Rider has become all too common... there are no perfect movies and I'll take this over 99% of all the other BS Hollywood offers up any day.


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« Reply #39 on: 03/01/2007 11:28 AM »
I'll see it, it's the type of movie that's not too 'geek' for average people who may just be casual followers of the space program.
I'm sure I'll have a few chuckles at the technical idiosyncracies, but that's entertainment.  :cool:

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« Reply #40 on: 03/01/2007 03:05 PM »
I watched it with my wife, we enjoyed every minute of it. Hope they make it pay and can continue to provide a brief suspension of disbelief. I consider it essential that private investment supports a belief that you can live your dreams. Astronauts willing to risk life, fortune, and future on the complexities of space flight cannot succeed without deep pocket financial support. This movie conveyed that risk faithfully, technical details notwithstanding. I had to laugh at the media scattering because a rocket was headed their direction, CG effects made splinters from the fence appear to be the big danger.
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I saw it and thought it was sweet and enjoyable.  Kind of like "The Right Stuff" meets "Field of Dreams". Technical accuracy ... don't look for that.  But I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
where kids love and admire their parents

I almost want to go see any movie rated PG these days just to support the rating.  Hollywood still hasn't figured out that clean family films make money.  I don't expect they ever will.

Well the movie should be praised for that at least.

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« Reply #42 on: 03/01/2007 08:24 PM »
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I saw it and thought it was sweet and enjoyable.  Kind of like "The Right Stuff" meets "Field of Dreams". Technical accuracy ... don't look for that.  But I've recommended it to my friends because it shows a family:

eating dinner together
going to church
loving and supporting each other in their dreams
not having affairs or running around
where kids love and admire their parents

I almost want to go see any movie rated PG these days just to support the rating.  Hollywood still hasn't figured out that clean family films make money.  I don't expect they ever will.

That's because watching a movie about a family eating dinner together, going to church, and not having affairs is about as exciting as watching paint dry. A good story requires conflict, and the more complex the conflict, the better the story. That's why most fiction (books and movies) covers controversial ground that might not be appropriate for kids.  It's exciting to have an affair, it's exciting to wantonly break the law, it's exciting to go to war, it's also insipidly stupid and damaging to all involved--though that rarely get's illustrated in movies (while books sometimes do a better job).

Clean family films attract moviegoers with young kids who don't mind being bored stupid in order for their kids to get a chance at clean entertainment. That's, sadly, a pretty small segment of the population and is the reason why those kinds of movies actually don't make money.

The only time a movie like that makes any money is when people are tricked into seeing it, as in "Bridge to Terabithia" which was a good clean book and a good clean movie, but if you go without reading the book and expect a story based on the advertisemets, you'll be in for a surprise.

I'll probably rent the Astronaut Farmer out of loyalty to the space genre, but my expectations will be low. I'd probably give it a good rating if Thornton ends up blowing himself to kingdom come, thus doing us the double-favor of illustrating just how dangerous and difficult spaceflight really is and transforming a weakly campy comedy (in the classical sense) into a shocking and gut-twisting tragedy, but I somehow doubt that's gonna happen.
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« Reply #43 on: 03/01/2007 08:50 PM »
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That's because watching a movie about a family eating dinner together, going to church, and not having affairs is about as exciting as watching paint dry. A good story requires conflict, and the more complex the conflict, the better the story.

To be clear, the fault I find with the movie is not that it was boring because it depicted a family, or that it lacked conflict.  In fact, the family scenes were sweet, and the movie was full of conflict in every scene -- the little guy against his faux friend at the bank, the little guy against the FBI, the little guy against the governmental panel, the little guy against the media, the little guy against the psychologist, etc etc.  

The fault I find with the movie is that the conflict portrayed is cliche, predictable, and shallow.  Perhaps it could be viewed as an inspirational ballad or personal anthem, but it isn't my cup of tea.

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The fault I find with the movie is that the conflict portrayed is cliche, predictable, and shallow.  Perhaps it could be viewed as an inspirational ballad or personal anthem, but it isn't my cup of tea.

But the only way to make it not cliche, predictale, and shallow is to have the little guy lose and see his dreams crushed and ground into the dirt. While this is a good analogue of real life and scores high marks with you, me, and some critics, it is not the kind of movie Oprah likes or that most people will pay money to see.
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« Reply #45 on: 03/01/2007 11:34 PM »
Two vastly differing opinions, posts by "braddock" and "vanilla" prove something I have believed for quite some time:
Those who are close to the subject matter of any particular movie will be its harshest critics.

I agree with "vanilla's" reasons, that being it's family-friendliness.

Now, that said, I'd like to do a little more research, based upon the ages of those who have seen it. When I (age 51) took my 14 year-old son to see the show, I noticed that those who were in the theater were overwhelmingly senior (over 60) citizens, with one 30-something father and his 8-year old (estimated) son.

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« Reply #46 on: 03/02/2007 12:05 AM »
Pretty darn boring movie overall... And sad that even a film with "basic" family values in it still is inappropriate to take your family to. WHY must they throw in profanity? I just don't get it. Embarassing when you can't take kids to see a movie like this without cringing.

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Pretty darn boring movie overall... And sad that even a film with "basic" family values in it still is inappropriate to take your family to. WHY must they throw in profanity? I just don't get it. Embarassing when you can't take kids to see a movie like this without cringing.

You make a great point...one which has also been mentioned on the "Ghost Whisperer" site.
One of the best movies I have is the broadcast version of "Aliens". It contains none of the language of the theater version, yet the story loses nothing.

But even "Star Trek" movies are rated PG, because unless it's a children's movie, the conventional Hollywood wisdom is that adults will not go to see a "G" rated movie.

It looks like with even a three-star rating, this movie will be available on DVD before Memorial Day.  :frown:

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« Reply #48 on: 03/05/2007 07:34 PM »
Saw it, sorta liked it. I'll give it a "B."
I was annoyed by the glaring technical mistakes/oversights/liscenses. The movie itself was okay, though except for the whole Deus Ex Machina thing. I mean, the screenwriters couldn't come up with anything better than THAT??
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