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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #40 on: 10/19/2005 07:27 PM »
All photos from Russian Vadim Lukashevich's Buran website ( http://www.buran.ru )

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #41 on: 10/19/2005 08:11 PM »
Wow, how terrible! Thank you so much Ani, I really appreciate your posts.

What caused the roof to collapse?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #42 on: 10/19/2005 08:12 PM »
Was she being processed for another launch?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #43 on: 10/19/2005 10:42 PM »
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Andy L - 19/10/2005  3:11 PM

Wow, how terrible! Thank you so much Ani, I really appreciate your posts.

What caused the roof to collapse?

I think it was too much snow. The roof had weakened enough over the years (not enough money for maintenance) it couldn't support the snow weight from a major winter storm, and gave way.
A tragic loss.


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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #44 on: 10/20/2005 04:37 AM »
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Was she being processed for another launch?


It was the end of the cold war, there was no more money, if I recall, in fact its via sure determination of our Russian friends that it got launched at all..

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #45 on: 10/20/2005 03:01 PM »
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Was she being processed for another launch?

Sure look like it! I wonder if THIS was the reason the program never made it to a second launch!

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #46 on: 10/20/2005 03:28 PM »
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Andy L - 20/10/2005  12:11 AM

What caused the roof to collapse?

Significant increase (in 1.5 times) of actual loading on the roof in comparison with allowable norm, because:

1. Deviations from the project, admitted at the building construction

2. Significant humidifying of the roof

3. Essential decrease of durability of ferro-concrete plates of the roof

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Flightstar - 20/10/2005  12:12 AM

Was she being processed for another launch?

This Orbiter (1K) did not prepare for another launch... But the second Orbiter (2K) prepared to manned spaceflight in 1993...

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #47 on: 10/20/2005 03:59 PM »
All photos from Russian "Novosti kosmonavtiki" magazine website

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #48 on: 10/20/2005 09:39 PM »
My goodness, they are simply letting her rust? :(

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #49 on: 10/21/2005 03:18 AM »
Thank you so much Anik. You are a very valuable poster on this forum.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #50 on: 10/21/2005 04:15 AM »
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Flightstar - 20/10/2005  11:18 PM

Thank you so much Anik. You are a very valuable poster on this forum.

Second that...thanks Anik..

(you sure have a lot of answers... any stock market tips...;)

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #51 on: 10/21/2005 07:07 AM »
I'll third that...and he's been here from about the start!

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #52 on: 10/21/2005 02:24 PM »
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My goodness, they are simply letting her rust? :(

Chris, it is one of full-size spacecraft models, which now belongs to Kazakhstan... :(

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #53 on: 10/21/2005 06:09 PM »
I am just so amazed, how something that in the west looks complex, but looks simpler, no make that KISS in Russian... Look forward to the next Russian develpment that takes flight..

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #54 on: 10/21/2005 06:21 PM »
Anik...

Whats the item on the tank ahead of the orbiter?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #55 on: 10/21/2005 07:27 PM »
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Whats the item on the tank ahead of the orbiter?

Unfortunately, I do not know...

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #56 on: 10/21/2005 09:22 PM »
Anik, how many Buran's are there left?

I've never seen so many. Two in the hanger covered in dust. One rusting outside, one on the stack above, one in Gorky Park, one the desert? Six?

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #57 on: 10/22/2005 12:27 AM »
IIRC, I think only one (the one mounted in the hangar pic) is a 'flyable' ship. The others are all testbeds and boilerplate models.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #58 on: 10/22/2005 01:14 AM »
Just to clarify everything that has been said (it's not too clear): the one that was destroyed in the roof collapse was the one and only that made the flight into space. It is unfortunate now because all three of the world first reusable spacecraft (not counting Gem 2) are destroyed now.

The ones still surviving and collecting dust are atmospheric test articles, and (two I think) that were intended to be flown in space but never got that far when the program was terminated.

You can buy the heat tiles meant for and used on the Burans today, they appear in auctions and ebay all the time.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #59 on: 10/22/2005 01:16 AM »
And don't forget the fact that Buran had turbo engines to allow it to 'go around again' unlike the Shuttle when it returned. That's one thing that would make it 'softer and smoother' thought I don't think they used those on the test flight.

Also notice that Buran used drag chutes long before the Shuttle did.

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