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Offline B. Hendrickx

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #980 on: 06/18/2017 10:09 PM »
I've been meaning to ask...

I don't recall ever seeing any pictures of article 8M, the Crew Trainer that was supposedly at the GCTC.  What finally happened to it?

While I'm at it, what is the current status of 5M & 6M?

8M, a crew cabin model used for "medical tests" and life support system tests, is now on the territory of the 83rd Clinical Hospital in Moscow. I've attached one picture from this series of photos :
http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/349824.html

Some sources say it was originally on the territory of the 29th Clinical Hospital, then moved to Star City and subsequently transferred to the 83rd Clinical Hospital. I'm not sure if that's correct.

5M (OK-TVA) was built for thermal, acoustic and static vibration tests at TsAGI. It was not assembled as a single vehicle, but split into several full-size sections that could be tested individually. All these sections have been destroyed, except for the left wing, which was installed on the Buran mock-up that for a long time was on display at Gorky park and is now at the VDNKh exhibition complex.

6M (OK-TVI) was used for thermal and vacuum tests at NIIKhimmash. NIIKhimmash hoped to display it at a space museum it intended to open on its premises, but that plan fell through and 6M was destroyed in late 2007.

These are all the surviving full-scale Buran vehicles and their current location:

- 2K (1.02) (second flight vehicle) : inside MZK building, Baikonur
- 3K (2.01) (third flight vehicle) : Flight Research Institute, Zhukovskiy
- 1M (0.01 / OK-ML1, OK-M) : outside the Baikonur museum
- 2M (0.02/ OK-ML2, OK-GLI, BTS-002) (used for approach and landing tests) : Technical Museum, Speyer, Germany
- 3M (0.03/OK-KS) : RKK Energiya, Korolyov (soon to be transported to Sochi)
- 4M (0.04 /OK-MT) : inside MZK building, Baikonur
- vehicle at VDNKh, Moscow (used to be at Gorky park) (this doesn't have a designator. It was assembled at NPO Molniya in 1993 from various surviving parts, including the left wing of 5M, the right wing of the unfinished flight vehicle 4K and the fuselage and vertical stabilizer of 0.11, which was used for static tests at NPO Molniya)

 
 

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #981 on: 06/19/2017 08:00 AM »
Thank you for the prompt response.

I admit to confusion.  According to the information I have, 4M is the vehicle on display at the Baikonur museum and 7M is the one in the MZK.

I guess I need to buy your book...

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #982 on: 06/19/2017 08:28 AM »

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« Reply #983 on: 06/19/2017 11:56 AM »
Buran sent to Sochi
http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/720113/cid/1/

It's not quite on its way yet. The report says disassembly of the vehicle began today and should be finished about a week from now. Then the individual elements will be moved by truck to a nearby port and transported to Sochi by barge.

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« Reply #984 on: 06/19/2017 12:09 PM »
Thank you for the prompt response.

I admit to confusion.  According to the information I have, 4M is the vehicle on display at the Baikonur museum and 7M is the one in the MZK.

I guess I need to buy your book...

There is indeed some confusion on the designators for the various Buran test vehicles. The list in my book was largely based on the one given by Russian Buran historian Vadim Lukashevich on his website:
http://www.buran.ru/htm/chavo.htm

He hasn't updated the online list since then, but he did give more up-to-date information in two articles in "Novosti kosmonavtiki" magazine in 2011/2012. That is what my post is based on. He doesn't mention 7M, neither in the online list, nor in his NK articles.

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« Reply #985 on: 06/19/2017 12:40 PM »
Okay, I really do need to buy your book.

Here, take my money...

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #986 on: 06/19/2017 01:29 PM »
Buran sent to Sochi
http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/720113/cid/1/

It's not quite on its way yet. The report says disassembly of the vehicle began today and should be finished about a week from now. Then the individual elements will be moved by truck to a nearby port and transported to Sochi by barge.
"sent to" came from here:
http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news.html

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #987 on: 06/19/2017 08:30 PM »
Buran sent to Sochi
http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/720113/cid/1/

It's not quite on its way yet. The report says disassembly of the vehicle began today and should be finished about a week from now. Then the individual elements will be moved by truck to a nearby port and transported to Sochi by barge.
"sent to" came from here:
http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news.html

That's a mistranslation.

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #988 on: 06/20/2017 04:13 AM »
Buran sent to Sochi
http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/720113/cid/1/

It's not quite on its way yet. The report says disassembly of the vehicle began today and should be finished about a week from now. Then the individual elements will be moved by truck to a nearby port and transported to Sochi by barge.
"sent to" came from here:
http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news.html

That's a mistranslation.
You are right. "are sent to..."
(just a small word)

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Re: The Buran Thread
« Reply #989 on: 06/27/2017 04:37 PM »
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« Reply #991 on: 06/28/2017 01:46 PM »
http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news-2017/news_06-27.html

Buran sets forward to Sirius

June 27, 2017

The ceremony of transfering Buran reusable orbital vehicle full-size mockup used in the eighties for ground tests to Sirius Educational Centre (Sochi) will take place in RSC Energia on Tuesday, June 27.

Buran will become a part of Sirius Science and Art Park popular science exhibition about space with original items, interactive multimedia installations and exhibits. The exhibition will open in 2018.

The mockup was disassembled and prepared for transportation to Sochi. After the entire matching of mockup compartments exterior view and interior to Buran vehicle flight model, the mockup will be installed at Sirius Centre.

In the course of recovery works the specialists will install the internal equipment, cabins and armchairs, will reproduce the interior decoration and will make an external protective cover and affiliation marks.

Sirius Science and Art Park is a multifunctional public space being established in the building of the Olympics former Major Media Centre for the purpose of the Russian science and high technologies, musical and decorative art, ballet achievements’ popularization.

In the Park there are already created dozens of design and research scientific work laboratories, workshops, expositions and exhibition rooms, educational audiences, musical and ballet classes where Sirius Educational Centre pupils study and all-Russia scientific and technical festivals and engineering competitions take place.

This year for the first time Sirius Science and Art Park opened the doors for Sochi guests and habitants: scientific and creative master classes and excursions around laboratories, lecture halls, family weekend programs, classical music and ballet concerts, art exhibitions became available to them.

In 2018 in Sirius Science and Art Park the first order of the largest in the world natural-scientific exhibition complex will be opened for popularization of the Russian science and high technologies’ achievements. As early as July 2017, the activities will begin in the entry area (outside) to create recreation space, which main dominant will become Buran orbital vehicle with the interactive exposition inside. The Cosmodrome will be the first area open to the Park visitors, and it will include popular science exhibition and planetarium with the dome 15 meters in diameter.

Since 2016 Sirius Science and Art Park has been developing scientific and research cluster with the participation of the leading universities, scientific research institutes, advanced Russian companies and innovative startups. The joint work within specialized educational programs is carried out in this area by the talented pupils and students: Sirius graduates, experts, engineers, scientists.

In the mid eighties Buran orbital vehicle full-size mockup was used as part of bench for complex electrical tests, software development, electrical radio-technical tests of the vehicle systems and equipment. Since 1992 the mockup was preserved and was in the safekeeping.

According to the preparation and transportation schedule the next stage after the transfer ceremony will be the cargo trawls transport column moving on route MRHW (Moscow Ring Highway) – М4 highway, which is planned for June 29-30. On July 3 the column arrives to the port Caucasus, where Buran will be reloaded on a sea craft. On July 5 there will be the arrival to the port Imeretinskiy (The Olympic port in Sochi), and then there will be the transportation to Sirius.

RSC Energia  is the leader in the rocket and space industry, and the prime contractor for manned space systems. The Corporation conducts work on the development of unmanned space and rocket systems (launch vehicles and orbital transfer vehicles), and high-technology systems for various non-space applications. Since August 2014, the Corporation is headed by Vladimir SOLNTSEV.

ROSCOSMOS is a State Corporation established in August of 2015 in order to conduct a comprehensive reform of the rocket and space industry in Russia. State Corporation Roscosmos assures implementation of the Government policies in the field of space activities and provides for them a legal and regulatory framework, as well as places orders for the development, production and delivery of space hardware and space infrastructure facilities. The functions of the State Corporation also include development of international cooperation in space, and creating conditions for using results of space activities in social and economic development of Russia.

Sirius Educational Centre  was opened by the Foundation “Talent and success” in 2015 on the initiative of the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin chaired its board of guardians. The Foundation was established by the outstanding Russian people of science, sports and art. Sirius task is to find the most resultative pupils in the regions of Russia, to develop and support them, to summarize and distribute best practices of working with talents.
 Monthly 600 talented pupils are enlisted to the profound educational programs, 200 by each direction (science, sports and art). The young mathematicians, physicists, chemists, biologists, musicians, artists, ballet dancers, writers, hockey players, figure skaters and chess players live and study together, which gives them a unique experience of interdisciplinary and creative communication. Study, stay and travel to Sirius are free for children. The program lasts for 24 days and includes profound profile study under the guidance of the leading Russian teachers, coaches and scientists, master classes and creative meetings, developmental leisure, recreation activities. Teaching is carried out on the basis of the infrastructure which was built for the Winter Olympic Games 2014.

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« Reply #992 on: 06/28/2017 01:47 PM »
http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news-2017/news_06-27_1.html


Channel One: Mockup of the legendary Buran orbiter is being readied for shipment to Sirius educational center

June 27, 2017

Students of the Sirius educational center will soon get a chance to step in the shoes of a conqueror of the Universe and go on a virtual voyage in a spacecraft. An exact replica of the legendary Buran orbiter is being shipped off to Sochi. After more than three decades the mockup changes its place of residence to become a part of a large exhibit dedicated to space exploration.

This spacecraft has stayed in Korolev for exactly 35 years, and now it is being loaded onto a platform to be shipped off to Sochi to the educational summer camp Sirius.

This is one of several Buran mockups which were used to test the operation of all the spacecraft systems. Altogether, about 10 of such units were built, and currently this one is among the best preserved specimens. Now it will be rebuilt into an installation which will help children study spaceflight.

People often ask which is the Buran that actually flew into space. This particular unit didn’t fly into space for sure, although inside it is outfitted exactly as the real orbiter, but if you look on the outside, you won’t find the famous ceramic tiles protecting the spacecraft against the heat of atmospheric re-entry.

The Buran orbiter, which on November 15, 1988 flew into space, stayed at Baikonur and was eventually lost. One unit stays there at the local museum, in Moscow, at VDNKh, there is also a mockup that was originally built for tests, and one more Buran found its way into a private collection in Germany.

"We were indeed offered large sums of money for it, but we decided to let it stay in Russia to make it work for the future of our country", - explained general director of S.P. Korolev Rocket and Space Corporation Energia Vladimir Solntsev.

Buran was supposed to be flown by two pilots, just as a conventional aircraft, although Buran flew its first and only mission in fully automatic mode, exactly aligning itself with the runway during landing approach despite strong crosswinds.

The Buran mockup will be loaded onto seven platforms and transported to the south at 60 kilometers per hour by federal highway M4. The Buran won’t be hidden under any wraps, so the transportation of the legend of Soviet spaceflight can be watched by anyone who whishes to so.

https://www.1tv.ru/news/2017-06-27/327783-k_otpravke_v_obrazovatelnyy_tsentr_sirius_gotovyat_maket_legendarnogo_kosmicheskogo_korablya_buran

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« Reply #993 on: 06/28/2017 08:50 PM »
http://tass.ru/kosmos/4367966

According to yesterday's TASS report the trucks carrying the various parts of Buran were to depart Moscow on June 29 and arrive at the port of Kavkaz (on the Kerch strait in the Stavropol region) on July 3. There they will be loaded onto a sea-going vessel and leave for Sochi, with arrival at the Imeretinskiy port in Sochi expected on July 5. From there Buran will be transported to the Sirius Educational Center.  Refurbishment work is expected to take 1.5 months. Buran will be part of a permanent space exhibition at Sirius that will open in early 2018. It will be joined by a full-scale mock-up of the cancelled Kliper spacecraft and may eventually also be joined by a full-scale mock-up of Federatsia.

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« Reply #994 on: 07/01/2017 01:00 AM »
From other Energiya/Buran fans, welcome!  Do you have the famous from-behind shot of the first Energiya on
the pad in hi-res??

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« Reply #995 on: 07/09/2017 01:00 PM »


I hadn't seen this posted here yet.

Be sure to turn subtitles on if you don't speak Russian.
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« Reply #996 on: 07/09/2017 09:33 PM »


I hadn't seen this posted here yet.

Be sure to turn subtitles on if you don't speak Russian.

This is a bunch of Dutch speaking Belgian guys.
They may have been inspired by these Russians, who did exactly the same (posted earlier in this thread):



Cheap way of visiting Baikonur, but what would the penalty be if you get caught?
 

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« Reply #997 on: 07/10/2017 10:49 PM »
I think both videos are staged.

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« Reply #998 on: 07/12/2017 01:26 PM »
I think both videos are staged.

Why do you think so?

It looks like all this began when Russian photographer and urban explorer Ralph Mirebs "discovered" the two abandoned Burans in 2015 and posted his pictures here:

http://ralphmirebs.livejournal.com/219949.html

These pictures were widely disseminated on the Internet. In actual fact, the existence of these two abandoned vehicles had been known for a long time, but nobody had paid much attention to them until Mirebs published his pictures.

As Mirebs said in this German interview, he had entered Baikonur illegally.

https://www.wired.de/collection/design/wired-spricht-mit-dem-russischen-fotografen-ralph-mirebs

Others have since followed in his footsteps.

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« Reply #999 on: 07/19/2017 02:38 PM »
Reading the 'STS 300' orbiter back up article I noted mention of serious issues with the reentry of Buran on its one and only flight. Does anyone have any more details of these problems?

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