Author Topic: LKW-2 - CZ-2D - JSLC, LC43/603 - December 23, 2017 (04:14 UTC)  (Read 4085 times)

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China will probably launch the Ludikancha Weixing-2 sat on December 23.
« Last Edit: 12/23/2017 03:43 AM by Galactic Penguin SST »

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China will probably launch the Ludikancha Weixing-2 sat on December 23.
These 2 NOTAMs identical to those for LKW-1 (except for the validity date) could support that.

A3662/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:34 2017

A3664/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:37 2017

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China will probably launch the Ludikancha Weixing-2 sat on December 23.
These 2 NOTAMs identical to those for LKW-1 (except for the validity date) could support that.

A3662/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:34 2017

A3664/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:37 2017

....let's say that it's these two airspace closure notice that caused people to guess, not the other way round.  ::)
Unfortunately the Chinese launch schedule for the rest of the month has been thrown into uncertainty with none of the rumored launches being concrete - I'll write about that later today.  :-X
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China will probably launch the Ludikancha Weixing-2 sat on December 23.
These 2 NOTAMs identical to those for LKW-1 (except for the validity date) could support that.

A3662/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N330743E0981215-N331228E0974709-N340515E0980115-N340028E0982635 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:04 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:34 2017

A3664/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:N350925E0984346-N351301E0982430-N354201E0983231-N353712E0985821 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 23 DEC 04:03 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:26 2017. CREATED: 01 DEC 06:37 2017

....let's say that it's these two airspace closure notice that caused people to guess, not the other way round.  ::)
Unfortunately the Chinese launch schedule for the rest of the month has been thrown into uncertainty with none of the rumored launches being concrete - I'll write about that later today.  :-X

Agree. There are also some dates about launches that we expected were delayed to 2018. So, we just have to wait and see.

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In the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, the concept of innovation as the primary motivation has been integrated into every launch mission and every technological innovation. In a few days, the launch center will usher in the 98th space launch.
source: https://www.js7tv.cn/news/201712_124329.html  dated 2017-12-17

Mission codename for this next launch out of JSLC should be 01-85
In addition, there has been 13 other launches from JSLC for Shenzhou and Tiangong

so that yes it will be the 85 + 13  = 98th launch out of JSLC

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In the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, the concept of innovation as the primary motivation has been integrated into every launch mission and every technological innovation. In a few days, the launch center will usher in the 98th space launch.
source: https://www.js7tv.cn/news/201712_124329.html  dated 2017-12-17

Mission codename for this next launch out of JSLC should be 01-85
In addition, there has been 13 other launches from JSLC for Shenzhou and Tiangong

so that yes it will be the 85 + 13  = 98th launch out of JSLC

Hmm..... I count only (officially known) 96 satellite launches out of JSLC so far:
- 2 x CZ-1
- 8 x FB-1
- 4 x CZ-2(A)
- 22 x CZ-2C
- 33 x CZ-2D
- 13 x CZ-2F
- 3 x CZ-4B
- 5 x CZ-4C
- 2 x CZ-11
- 1 x KT-2
- 3 x KZ-1(A)

Where is the 97th?
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Isn't there supposed to have been a KZ-1 launch failure?
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IF
the launch of GCOM-C happens as scheduled,
AND IF
the 4th flight of 10-pack Iridium Next satellites happens as scheduled,
AND IF
this launch happens as it is apparently scheduled to do,
THEN
December 23, UTC will be another "three-fer" orbital launch date.

Cross-post:
An interesting possibility FYI cross-posting from the GCOM-C launch thread:

http://global.jaxa.jp/press/2017/10/20171027_h2af37.html

Launch of Global Changing Observation Mission - Climate "SHIKISAI" (GCOM-C)  and Super Low Altitude Test Satellite TSUBAME" (SLATS) aboard H-IIA Vehicle No. 37

October 27, 2017 (JST)

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd.
National Research and Development Agency
Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA)

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. (MHI) and the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) are pleased to announce the launch schedule for Global Changing Observation Mission - Climate "SHIKISAI" (GCOM-C) and Super Low Altitude Test Satellite "TSUBAME" (SLATS) by H-IIA launch vehicle No. 37.

Scheduled date of Launch : December 23 (Sat.), 2017
Launch time                    : 10:26:22 a.m. through 10:48:22 a.m. (JST)
Reserved Launch period   : December 24 (Sun.), 2017 through January 31 (Wed.), 2018
Launch site                     : Yoshinobu Launch Complex at the tanegashima Space Center 

<snip>

And:
Note that as of right now, the start of the launch window for this falls on the exact same minute (!!!) as for the launch of Falcon 9/Iridium NEXT Flight 4 on the opposite side of the Pacific. IF (a very big one) this ultimately happens the two will be <=37 seconds apart, which will be an all time record:o

I very much doubt both will manage to hold on schedule to that point with 57 days left but.....one never knows for sure when will we need split screens.  ;) ;)

Technical info on GCOM-C can be found here, and for SLATS here.

Many weeks later and......this is still predicted to happen as of this writing. With the F9 settling on T-0 at 01:27:23 UTC the 2 launches will be 61 seconds apart if everything goes as planned (the H-IIA will launch first).  ;)

EDIT ADD 12/21:
The previous "three-fer" date was October 9, UTC.  We have a match of launch vehicles and launch sites, comparing October 9 to December 23:

VRSS-2, launched on a CZ-2D from JSLC;
AND
the 3rd flight of 10 Iridium Next satellites, launched on a Falcon 9 from Vandenberg;
AND
QZS-4, launched on a H-IIA 202 from Tanegashima!
« Last Edit: 12/23/2017 02:38 AM by zubenelgenubi »
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The lack of any concrete evidence up till now other than a NOTAM (that is issued 3 weeks in advance - unprecedented early for the Chinese - and also too similar to a previous notice issued for the December 3 launch, such that the scenario of an erroneous notice being posted and still not yet retracted must be considered) and the previous news report means that the launch date and details of this one is still very much questionable.

Regardless, something might launch tomorrow at ~04:10 UTC so let's see if that happens...  :-X
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Re: LKW-2 (?) - CZ-2D - JSLC, LC43/603 - December 23, 2017 (?)
« Reply #10 on: 12/22/2017 03:40 PM »
A new NOTAM to confirm to-morrow's launch window

A3856/17 -  THE FLW SEGMENTS OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.Y2:MEPEP -LUVAR. 2.L888:LUVAR-MUMAN. 3.Y1:MEPEP - N3507.6E10005.6. 23 DEC 04:00 2017 UNTIL 23 DEC 04:32 2017. CREATED: 22 DEC 13:04 2017

Same as for LKW-1 (reference)
« Last Edit: 12/22/2017 03:46 PM by input~2 »

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I'm trying to search for direct evidence that this launch is going off today on Chinese websites & social media. So far the search turned up empty.

Let's see if something really happens in 2 hours time.  ;)
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Nothing about this one has turned up yet so far (only UFOs in LA  ;)). We might have to wait for state media to report on this one.
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Nothing about this one has turned up yet so far (only UFOs in LA  ;)). We might have to wait for state media to report on this one.

Apparently launch DID occur.
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Launch success has been confirmed by state media. Rocket is Long March 2D, satellite is LKW-2 and T-0 was 04:14 UTC.
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Some more photos from http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/PVNGPoECh9X3XWm7hAC3_w.
This launch used CZ-2D s/n Y48.
« Last Edit: 12/23/2017 05:28 AM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Long March-2D launches land exploration satellite

A Long March-2D launch vehicle (Chang Zheng-2D) launched a new land exploration satellite from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center, China, on 23 December 2017, at 04:12 UTC (12:12 Beijing Time).

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Catalogued as 2017-084A/43080.   The orbit is coplanar with the first satellite in the series.
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Are these genuine civilian satellites or convert military, or even dual use?

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