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Perhaps not that surprising given the circumstances.

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UK aerospace firms have said they are being excluded from bidding for space contracts because of the Brexit vote.
Contracts for the European navigation satellite system, Galileo, were being particularly affected, Simon Henley of the Royal Aeronautical Society said.
Aircraft manufacturer Airbus warned that other countries were "knocking at the door" to take business from the UK amid the uncertainty caused by Brexit.
Both comments were made to MPs on the Business Committee .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42065836#

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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #1 on: 11/26/2017 07:47 PM »
Perhaps not that surprising given the circumstances.

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UK aerospace firms have said they are being excluded from bidding for space contracts because of the Brexit vote.
Contracts for the European navigation satellite system, Galileo, were being particularly affected, Simon Henley of the Royal Aeronautical Society said.
Aircraft manufacturer Airbus warned that other countries were "knocking at the door" to take business from the UK amid the uncertainty caused by Brexit.
Both comments were made to MPs on the Business Committee .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42065836#

Not surprising, but if you believe that cheap spaceflight is coming then government programs will lose their dominance in deciding the health of companies involved in spaceflight.

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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #2 on: 11/27/2017 06:36 AM »
Perhaps not that surprising given the circumstances.

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UK aerospace firms have said they are being excluded from bidding for space contracts because of the Brexit vote.
Contracts for the European navigation satellite system, Galileo, were being particularly affected, Simon Henley of the Royal Aeronautical Society said.
Aircraft manufacturer Airbus warned that other countries were "knocking at the door" to take business from the UK amid the uncertainty caused by Brexit.
Both comments were made to MPs on the Business Committee .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42065836#

Not surprising, but if you believe that cheap spaceflight is coming then government programs will lose their dominance in deciding the health of companies involved in spaceflight.

I doubt that will make much difference, at least in the short term.

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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #3 on: 01/16/2018 11:20 AM »
Perhaps not that surprising given the circumstances.

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UK aerospace firms have said they are being excluded from bidding for space contracts because of the Brexit vote.
Contracts for the European navigation satellite system, Galileo, were being particularly affected, Simon Henley of the Royal Aeronautical Society said.
Aircraft manufacturer Airbus warned that other countries were "knocking at the door" to take business from the UK amid the uncertainty caused by Brexit.
Both comments were made to MPs on the Business Committee .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42065836#

Not surprising, but if you believe that cheap spaceflight is coming then government programs will lose their dominance in deciding the health of companies involved in spaceflight.

This depends on what they do. Most UK interaction is relating to satellites, rather than rocketry. If anything, cheaper launches will benefit companies like Surrey Satellites and their associated links with universities and government involvement as it will be easier to launch their more cost effective payloads. Commercial space may kill off government funded rockets, but governments will still have a strong interest in what goes into space and indeed it may well put them in a better position to research more interesting things to go up there, since they aren't spending a fortune developing and maintaining rockets.
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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #4 on: 01/16/2018 11:50 AM »
Commercial space may kill off government funded rockets,
Not while space launch is confined to something-that-looks-like-an-ICBM and is regulated by the country the manufacturer is based in regulates it like an ICBM.

It's a tricky one. On the one hand Canada is a member of the ESA without (it appears) any major problems, and AFAIK the UK had no issues with Ariane 6 (unlike A5, with it's Hermes HSF aspirations).

ESA is not the EU, but Brexit will certainly complicate issues where national programmes are looking for partners, as the UK will no longer tick the "Inside the EU, Y/M ?" box.
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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #5 on: 01/16/2018 11:56 AM »
Commercial space may kill off government funded rockets,
Not while space launch is confined to something-that-looks-like-an-ICBM and is regulated by the country the manufacturer is based in regulates it like an ICBM.

It's a tricky one. On the one hand Canada is a member of the ESA without (it appears) any major problems, and AFAIK the UK had no issues with Ariane 6 (unlike A5, with it's Hermes HSF aspirations).

ESA is not the EU, but Brexit will certainly complicate issues where national programmes are looking for partners, as the UK will no longer tick the "Inside the EU, Y/M ?" box.

Quite a bit of work done by ESA is provided by the EC. So yes, ESA is not EU. But ESA is, up to a point, dependent on EU work. In that sense, it is a fact that UK space companies will suffer from the Brexit.

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Re: UK firms 'excluded' from space contracts by Brexit
« Reply #6 on: 01/17/2018 10:13 PM »
Quite a bit of work done by ESA is provided by the EC. So yes, ESA is not EU. But ESA is, up to a point, dependent on EU work. In that sense, it is a fact that UK space companies will suffer from the Brexit.
True. Brexit is certainly a complicating factor for some kinds of interactions with ESA.

I don't understand Brexit, or why it happened, but it is happening and that's a fact that will have to be planned for in future interactions.
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