Author Topic: Yaogan-30-group 02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)  (Read 10777 times)

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According to this official news, XSLC will conduct 7 launches from now till Feb 2018, including this one. Previous news indicated this would be 3 satellites on board, similar to Yaogan-30 01
http://www.chinanews.com/gn/2017/11-06/8369574.shtml
http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=89653&extra=page%3D1
« Last Edit: 12/26/2017 06:31 AM by input~2 »
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A3444/17 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2647N10713E015
A) ZPKM B) 1711241800 C) 1711241827
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N263510E1072251-N264300E1065708-N265820E1070259-N265028E1072844
BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
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If I read that correctly, that's a NOTAM from 18:00 to 18:27 UTC on 24 November.
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Here is the same NOTAM for 1st stage debris in a more usual format:

A3444/17 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N263510E1072251-N264300E1065708-N265820E1070259-N265028E1072844 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 24 NOV 18:00 2017 UNTIL 24 NOV 18:27 2017. CREATED: 17 NOV 03:12 2017

Practically identical to the one for Yaogan-30-01
A2966/17
- A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N263510E1072250-N264301E1065708-N265820E1070259-N265028E1072844 BACK TO START.VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 29 SEP 04:13 2017 UNTIL 29 SEP 04:35 2017. CREATED: 25 SEP 07:47 2017
« Last Edit: 11/26/2017 07:26 PM by input~2 »

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Admitting these are SIGINT sats, can we expect a new Jianbing designation for the YG-30-XX series?

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Admitting these are SIGINT sats, can we expect a new Jianbing designation for the YG-30-XX series?
Very possible. I guess we will have to wait and see.

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Launch time will be at 18:08 UTC.

This will happen in dead middle of night on this side of Earth so I have an excuse to play with computer games an hour longer to wait for news. ;)
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Liftoff confirmed.
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Well, where are the official news?
« Last Edit: 11/24/2017 06:15 PM by Liss »
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Poster for fairing debris protection in NW Guangdong province
« Last Edit: 11/26/2017 07:25 PM by input~2 »

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Launch time was 18:10 UTC

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Expected launch code is "07-81"

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The official Chinese name of the payload "遥感三十号02组卫星" would translate as "Yaogan-30 Group 2"
« Last Edit: 11/24/2017 07:40 PM by input~2 »

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Reminder to all. We're now waiting for Chinese State Media info. Those are the links to post in here as they are the only media reports that will add more information to compliment Rui's article.

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Expected launch code is "07-81"
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In Hi-res:

4 objects from this launch have been found by NORAD:

43028 / 2017-075A: 590 km x 604 km x 35.000 °

43029 / 2017-075B: 589 km x 604 km x 34.998 °

43030 / 2017-075C: 590 km x 604 km x 34.997 °

43031 / 2017-075D (rocket 2nd stage): 455 km x 606 km x 35.127 °

Exact liftoff time was 18:10:05.130 UTC.
« Last Edit: 11/25/2017 03:36 AM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #20 on: 11/25/2017 05:52 AM »
Long March-2C launched three Yaogan-30 02 satellite

A Long March-2C rocket launched a second group of three Yaogan-30 remote sensing satellites from Xichang Satellite Launch Center, Sichuan province, on 24 November 2017, at 18:10 UTC (02:10 local time).

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #21 on: 11/25/2017 06:55 AM »

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #22 on: 11/25/2017 07:40 AM »
New orbital plane is 119° west of the first one. So we should see the third launch to the third plane, 120° east of YG30-01.
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #23 on: 11/25/2017 03:04 PM »
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #24 on: 11/25/2017 04:33 PM »
New orbital plane is 119° west of the first one. So we should see the third launch to the third plane, 120° east of YG30-01.
Given the spacing between the first launch and the second launch we can roughly expect the third launch sometime in February 2018.

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #25 on: 11/25/2017 07:52 PM »
New orbital plane is 119° west of the first one. So we should see the third launch to the third plane, 120° east of YG30-01.
Given the spacing between the first launch and the second launch we can roughly expect the third launch sometime in February 2018.

A further assumption, based on observation of past habits of Chinese launch campaign scheduling:
The launch would need to precede Chinese New Year: Friday, February 16, 2018.
« Last Edit: 11/25/2017 07:53 PM by zubenelgenubi »
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #26 on: 11/25/2017 08:57 PM »
Chinese launch vehicle factory numbers? Missing rockets CZ-2C: Y29? Y30?
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #27 on: 11/25/2017 09:32 PM »
New orbital plane is 119° west of the first one. So we should see the third launch to the third plane, 120° east of YG30-01.
Given the spacing between the first launch and the second launch we can roughly expect the third launch sometime in February 2018.

A further assumption, based on observation of past habits of Chinese launch campaign scheduling:
The launch would need to precede Chinese New Year: Friday, February 16, 2018.
Well this just popped up:
Yaogan-30-03 - CZ-2C - XSLC - Late 2017 or Early 2018
Per information from 9ifly forum.

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #28 on: 11/26/2017 07:50 AM »
China military channel 7 redacting onscreen display launch data ???
« Last Edit: 11/26/2017 08:02 AM by input~2 »

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #29 on: 11/26/2017 09:45 AM »
与战士站岗、炊事员做饭一样,航天员是一种职业,工作就是飞行。

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #30 on: 11/26/2017 09:50 AM »
火箭序号 遥三十 Serial number of the rocket Y30 - CZ-2C(Y30)/Chang Zheng-2C(Y30) 
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #31 on: 11/26/2017 09:54 AM »
NEW CCTV [中国发射] [任务简报] 2017年11月25日02:10,遥感卫星30号(创新5号)02组由CZ-2C从西昌成功发射

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3EGPSESRPo&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #32 on: 11/26/2017 10:09 AM »
Launch Complex 3 (LC-3)
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #33 on: 11/26/2017 01:34 PM »
You guys don't miss a detail.  ;)

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火箭序号 遥三十 Serial number of the rocket Y30 - CZ-2C(Y30)/Chang Zheng-2C(Y30)

Hmm is that an "insider source" or just someone's wiki note which anyone can edit? So far I have yet to see any serial number from direct public sources.  :-\
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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #35 on: 11/30/2017 07:31 PM »
火箭序号 遥三十 Serial number of the rocket Y30 - CZ-2C(Y30)/Chang Zheng-2C(Y30)

Hmm is that an "insider source" or just someone's wiki note which anyone can edit? So far I have yet to see any serial number from direct public sources.  :-\

I hope that I translate it correctly but iaccording to the information printed on various XSLC souvenir items the serial number is Y33.

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #37 on: 12/17/2017 04:10 PM »
Quote
The debris of the satellite launch vehicle crashed into a village in the southern part of [Guizhou] province.
source: http://www.gzsrf.gov.cn/xwzx/sbdt/201712/t20171211_2938642.html
(with satellite name misprint YG 32-2 instead of YG30-2)

The article recollects 30 years of falling rocket debris protection in Guizhou province

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Re: Yaogan-30-02 - CZ-2C - XSLC - November 24, 2017 (18:10 UTC)
« Reply #38 on: 12/24/2017 04:23 PM »