Author Topic: Soyuz-2-1v - ?? - Plesetsk - December 2017 or beginning of 2018  (Read 238 times)

Offline Stan Black

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A new thread for the possible launch of a classified payload on late December or beginning of 2018 from the Plesetsk Cosmodrome.

Original posts were from Lotos launch thread that takes place on December 1, 2017.


Do we at least know by now what version of the Soyuz-2.1 will be used?  ;)
I would not be surprised if it is a Soyuz 2.1b. Many were ordered.

The rockets insured in this period are either 1b or 1v.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26990.msg1697849#msg1697849
« Last Edit: 11/04/2017 11:02 AM by Satori »

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #1 on: 10/23/2017 07:18 AM »
It will be a 2-1v, but it is now delayed to November.
http://www.militarynews.ru/Story.asp?rid=1&nid=464881

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #2 on: 10/23/2017 07:32 AM »
It will be a 2-1v, but it is now delayed to November.
http://www.militarynews.ru/Story.asp?rid=1&nid=464881

Interesting to see that just a little bit earlier ago the next 2.1v wasn't going to fly until 2018: https://iz.ru/648333/dmitrii-strugovetc/novyi-soiuz-sbrosit-baki

Maybe the Russian military are now transferring the last payloads planned on Rockot (up to 3 flights as per reports before the Sentinel 5p launch) to the S-2.1v?
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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #3 on: 10/23/2017 12:54 PM »
Tentatively scheduled for 18th November.
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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #4 on: 10/24/2017 09:32 PM »
Launch delayed indefinitely.
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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #5 on: 10/25/2017 01:44 AM »
Launch delayed indefinitely.

Any indications why?

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #7 on: 11/03/2017 04:08 PM »
see reply # 1
It seems to be this satellite (Liana/Lotos or "Lotos FO")
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/2017.html#milsat
This report is about a Soyuz-2.1B not 2.1V
Something is wrong.
25.10. is mentioned (-->2.1v)
and Lotos is too heavy for 2.1v...
2.1B must be another launch ?
« Last Edit: 11/03/2017 04:09 PM by Alter Sachse »

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #8 on: 11/03/2017 04:23 PM »
see reply # 1
It seems to be this satellite (Liana/Lotos or "Lotos FO")
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/2017.html#milsat
This report is about a Soyuz-2.1B not 2.1V
Something is wrong.
25.10. is mentioned (-->2.1v)
and Lotos is too heavy for 2.1v...
2.1B must be another launch ?

I think that the confusion is because originally it wasn't known which version of the Soyuz-2 would be used on this launch.   When it became clear it was to be a Soyuz-2-1V that narrowed down the payload which could be carried.l

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #9 on: 11/03/2017 04:25 PM »
see reply # 1
It seems to be this satellite (Liana/Lotos or "Lotos FO")
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/2017.html#milsat
This report is about a Soyuz-2.1B not 2.1V
Something is wrong.
25.10. is mentioned (-->2.1v)
and Lotos is too heavy for 2.1v...
2.1B must be another launch ?

I think that the confusion is because originally it wasn't known which version of the Soyuz-2 would be used on this launch.   When it became clear it was to be a Soyuz-2-1V that narrowed down the payload which could be carried.l
Note: Information that I have is that there are not any Soyuz-2.1v launchers available for launch at this time in Plesetsk Cosmodrome at this time but one will become ready after the launch listed below for either the very end of the year or early next year.

Updated Information:
http://russianspaceweb.com/2017.html
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Dec. 1: A Soyuz-2-1B rocket to launch the first 14F145/Lotos military satellite for the Liana electronic intelligence network from Plesetsk. The mission was previously planned for Oct. 25, 2017, but had to be postponed until beginning of November and until November 18, at the earliest, due to problems with the satellite. On Oct. 25, space officials were expected to hold a meeting in Moscow on the status of the mission. The launch was then postponed until December 1, 2017.

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December: A Soyuz-2-1v rocket to launch a classified payload from Plesetsk.
« Last Edit: 11/03/2017 04:37 PM by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Soyuz-2-1b - Lotos - Plesetsk - December 1, 2017
« Reply #10 on: 11/04/2017 08:19 AM »
1st post says this:-

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According to a post from Nicolas Pillet on the schedule thread, there will be a Soyuz-2 launch from Plesetsk on 25th October 2017.
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43835.msg1727496#msg1727496

Does not say variant/class/type of rocket to be launched; is it a 1v or a 1b.

Guesswork posts then follow.

From repy 7, 23rd October
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43835.msg1741003#msg1741003
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The next launch of the Soyuz 2.1v rocket was planned for October, but for technical reasons it was decided to postpone it to November.
http://www.militarynews.ru/Story.asp?rid=1&nid=464881

So to Mr. Zak and www.russianspaceweb.com

Using Archive.org
https://web.archive.org/web/20171023195111/www.russianspaceweb.com/2017.html

23rd October update has no mention of Lotos, just this entry:-

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November: A Soyuz-2-1v rocket to launch a classified payload from Plesetsk. The mission was previously planned for Oct. 25, 2017.

Then in November it became:-

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Dec. 1: A Soyuz-2-1B rocket to launch the first 14F145/Lotos military satellite for the Liana electronic intelligence network from Plesetsk. The mission was previously planned for Oct. 25, 2017, but had to be postponed until beginning of November and until November 18, at the earliest, due to problems with the satellite. On Oct. 25, space officials were expected to hold a meeting in Moscow on the status of the mission. The launch was then postponed until December 1, 2017.

December: A Soyuz-2-1v rocket to launch a classified payload from Plesetsk.
« Last Edit: 11/04/2017 08:29 AM by Stan Black »

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