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Published on Sep 28, 2017

Neil deGrasse Tyson and Chuck Nice sit down with NASA's former chief scientist, Dr. Ellen Stofan, to discuss the differences between SpaceX and NASA in terms of space exploration plans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRzKTd4-iTY?t=001

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #1 on: 10/04/2017 08:57 AM »
Really disappointed that Neil deGrasse Tyson have so little knowledge about the US government budgetary process.

One simply does not shuffle the money from the Pentagon to NASA.  ::)

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #2 on: 10/04/2017 10:57 AM »
This video should be called "Why landing on Mars is hard". The difference is not explained at all except at a very superficial level. And it's interesting that NASA's chief scientist couldn't remember NASA's charter.

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #3 on: 10/04/2017 12:07 PM »
Funding makes a massive difference here. SpaceX is a private company that has to achieve a market success in order to get funding, while NASA is nearly entirely funded by the government.

But remember - there would be no SpaceX without all the technologies developed over the decades by NASA :)

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #4 on: 10/04/2017 02:35 PM »
 Hello Andrew, and welcome aboard! Your last sentence hit the nail on the head; something that seems to be forgotten once in awhile!

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #5 on: 10/04/2017 07:59 PM »
The difference is in the word "Profit".  :)

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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #6 on: 10/04/2017 08:43 PM »
Funding makes a massive difference here. SpaceX is a private company that has to achieve a market success in order to get funding, while NASA is nearly entirely funded by the government.

But remember - there would be no SpaceX without all the technologies developed over the decades by NASA :)

There wouldn't be a SpaceX if NASA hadn't selected them for COTS.

Also, most of those technologies were developed by other contractors, but paid for by NASA.


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Funding makes a massive difference here. SpaceX is a private company that has to achieve a market success in order to get funding, while NASA is nearly entirely funded by the government.

But remember - there would be no SpaceX without all the technologies developed over the decades by NASA :)

There wouldn't be a SpaceX if NASA hadn't selected them for COTS.

Also, most of those technologies were developed by other contractors, but paid for by NASA.

I think SpaceX would still exist, but most likely they would still be flying the Falcon 1.
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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #8 on: 10/04/2017 09:38 PM »
Funding makes a massive difference here. SpaceX is a private company that has to achieve a market success in order to get funding, while NASA is nearly entirely funded by the government.

But remember - there would be no SpaceX without all the technologies developed over the decades by NASA :)

There wouldn't be a SpaceX if NASA hadn't selected them for COTS.

Also, most of those technologies were developed by other contractors, but paid for by NASA.

It is in NASA's charter that they share their technology, so every company in the U.S. has the opportunity to benefit from the taxpayer funded progress NASA has made. SpaceX is no different than any other company.

Also, pointing to government contracts SpaceX has won ignores all the other companies that rely on government contracts for their initial & continued existence, so SpaceX is not unique or different in that way either.

As for NASA, it exists to solve problems the U.S. Government needs solved peacefully in space. Those problems and solutions may have nothing to do with commerce, which is why the U.S. Government is able to spend money on things that companies like SpaceX cannot afford to spend money on.

Which is why we're at a crossroads of sorts, because we have done the "easy" stuff in space, yet we have no "National Imperative" that drives us to do more. And so far there are no business models that would support sending humans into space, which is why Elon Musk is pretty much self-funding the colonization of Mars on his own more as a humanitarian effort than a business.

My reference for helping to understand what the U.S. Government should or should not be doing is whether there is something that needs to be done, but neither individuals or companies can't or won't do it. So "science" would be an example of where the U.S. Government has a national interest in doing science in space, but companies don't. And space transportation is an area where it's clear the commercial sector can do it better/cheaper/faster than the government can.

My $0.02
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Re: Difference between SpaceX and NASA - Space Exploration
« Reply #9 on: 10/04/2017 10:10 PM »
The difference is in the word "Profit".  :)

Maybe. But FAR would be another good word if we're looking for reasons why SpaceX plans their programs differently than NASA.

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