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Offline Skylab

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Does anyone have any info about this mock-up that Rockwell produced very early on? Just had a bit of a discussion elsewhere with people who were familiar with it to some extent, but have never seen any photos or other info.
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It would help if you actually explained what it was. Blind leading the blind and all that.

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It would help if you actually explained what it was. Blind leading the blind and all that.
Of course, we had some new discoveries today. Attached is a photo of the Iron Bird rig and link to an article.
https://thelexicans.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/iron-birds/

Very early on in the STS development there was a mockup called 'Ole Grey Back' as well. And it wasn't the second picture attached. It's very hard to find references, I've only heard about it from former Rockwell employees.
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Very early on in the STS development there was a mockup called 'Ole Grey Back' as well. And it wasn't the second picture attached. It's very hard to find references, I've only heard about it from former Rockwell employees.

That is the only mockup. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Inspiration
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Not doubting your knowledge, Jim. It's just that a Rockwell veteran insists it wasn't that one. So that left me wondering.

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I am afraid not. The mockup you referred to in your post was in large public like conference room in Building 1 and it was in a protective walled area away from the production floor.
Ole Greyback was literally out on the floor where it was used by production to use for harness fit checks before the flight harnesses were sent up to Palmdale. Give me a second I'll see if I can find picture....

Edit: It turns out it was the Iron Bird, as linked above.
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Maybe the heading should mention that you're referring to a space shuttle program. You never mentioned shuttle at all.

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Maybe the heading should mention that you're referring to a space shuttle program. You never mentioned shuttle at all.

I fixed it. This is the sort of thing a mod can fix, so a report to mod would have been in order if you were so inclined.
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Maybe the heading should mention that you're referring to a space shuttle program. You never mentioned shuttle at all.

I fixed it. This is the sort of thing a mod can fix, so a report to mod would have been in order if you were so inclined.

I'd kinda like to encourage posters everywhere, throughout the galaxy, to provide enough info so that the rest of us uninformed people have an idea of what they're posting about.

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The mockup still exists and was briefly on display to the public several years ago. It's in Downey CA (not too many miles from the Endeavour is displayed). I have long thought it would have been an amazing setup to have the Exposition Park museum have both the pre-production mockup and the real orbiter so people could see the program from concept to reality in one place.

I think they are still planning a museum for the mockup in Downey and are slowly gathering the funding.

Here are a couple of links of possible interest:

Some pics: https://www.urbanghostsmedia.com/2016/01/space-shuttle-inspiration-mockup-downey-california/

A 2012 local story: http://www.thedowneypatriot.com/articles/downey-celebrates-relocation-of-space-shuttle-mock-up

With those as a start, use Google  ;)

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Re: Information about Rockwell's 'Ole Grey Back' Shuttle mockup
« Reply #10 on: 10/03/2017 12:27 AM »
I'd kinda like to encourage posters everywhere, throughout the galaxy, to provide enough info so that the rest of us uninformed people have an idea of what they're posting about.

Fair enough. Good self moderation then!

On a tangential note, how many non Terran posters do you think we have here, at present? Asking for a friend.
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Re: Information about Rockwell's 'Ole Grey Back' Shuttle mockup
« Reply #11 on: 10/03/2017 03:22 AM »
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Re: Information about Rockwell's 'Ole Grey Back' Shuttle mockup
« Reply #12 on: 10/03/2017 02:08 PM »
Fair enough. Good self moderation then!

You know, if you give a man a fish, he eats for a day, if you teach a man to fish, he will eat for the rest of his life.

(I just made that quote up myself, right now.)


On a tangential note, how many non Terran posters do you think we have here, at present? Asking for a friend.

There are plenty of posters here who use economics, politics, and physics that are not based on Earthly understanding of those terms. So I would guess that the answer is lots.

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Re: Information about Rockwell's 'Ole Grey Back' Shuttle mockup
« Reply #13 on: 10/05/2017 04:24 PM »
Found a few more images of the 1975 "iron bird" in this Google books link:
[SNIP]
Thanks, I've fed that back to those who worked on it! And I'll make my next title more explicit, but in a good way! ;)

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