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Hi there, just making a thread for the next Electron rocket test flight, dubbed "Still Testing" by Rocket Lab.

They announced the new name and post flight analysis of the first launch on their website:
https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/rocket-lab-completes-post-flight-analysis/

On their twitter they indicated they hoped to launch the next test flight around October:
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/894466730059104256

I haven't been able to found out if there are going to be any commercial satellites aboard but Spaceflightnow seems to indicate there might be:
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Several commercial CubeSats are expected to be aboard the Electron’s second mission.
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/



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Rocket Lab's rocket is launching again soon — and this time it'll carry satellites to space

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The rocket will carry two of Planet’s Dove satellites, designed to image Earth, as well as two of Spire’s Lemur-2 satellites that track weather and ship traffic.
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Looks like they are behind the schedule a lot...
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Test flight 2, called Still Testing, is going out and we're about a month away from rolling that out to the pad
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLab/comments/77ohp5/still_testing_launch_a_month_from_late_october/
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THat's already a great achievement if they manage to launch once successfully this year as this would position RocketLab as the leading microlauncher company. However they were supposed to launch at least 6 times in 2017 and delays are significant so I would not be surprise if most of their large manifest announced last year are already lost to rideshare launch service providers like Spaceflight and ISIS.

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Almost two months passed from stage 1 stack test ( https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/902713171407806464 ). I wonder what is keeping them from flying.

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I wonder what is keeping them from flying.

Implementation of lessons learned I would guess. One must remember that the first flight was a very good test and provided way more data and lessons than "enable FEC next time".

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Launch gaps are quite reviled, not only in this discussion forum, but this is a characteristic of most spaceflight communities. Fans are impatient - that never changes.

I think that part of the current impatience trend is that we saw a lot of spaceflight companies emerging covering all kind of activities. They all conducted a lot of test flights last year and during the first half of 2017.

The problem is that literally all of the interesting companies we follow - Electron, Vector, Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin are in a period of lull. Sure, they say they're implementing lessons from previous flights. But when it takes really that long - for example, month-long lull, people are wondering what's wrong.

I'd like to ask people who're in the field of building hardware here (after all, there are a lot of engineers here) to be patient with those of us who're impatient :) It's quite easy to assume that if the previous flight was successful, the next launch is imminent. I mean - some of us work in different branches of science, or a different area in general. I don't have any idea what it takes to implement flight lessons and what modifications are needed. In this case, I'm ignorant and I rely on experts who can explain to me wht's happening.



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Press release from Alaska Aerospace seems to point to the December/January time frame:
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AAC will also provide support for another Rocket Lab launch in New Zealand in December or January, and Campbell said he hopes the company will be ready to launch from Alaska in 2019.
http://akaerospace.com/news/commercial-rocket-launches-coming-kodiak-island

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New NTOTAM issued for Dec. 7 to Feb. 28
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLab/comments/79q8l8/new_dates_including_launch_debris_return_7th/

Do you know how you look the NOTAMs up?
Learning/Getting Started Method:
https://www.icao.int/safety/iStars/Pages/notams.aspx
https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/

Advanced methods:
http://www.aip.net.nz/Home.aspx
http://www.caa.govt.nz/airspace/

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AIP New Zealand
The Aeronautical Information Publication
New Zealand (AIP) is a collective name given to a number of publications relating to airspace and aerodromes. These documents define the regulatory and airspace requirements to fly in New Zealand.
The AIP includes:
» AIP New Zealand Vols 1 to 4 (available online, www.aip.net.nz)
» AIP Supplements
» Air Navigation Register
» Visual Navigation and Planning Charts
» Enroute Charts (for IFR).
NOTAMs (stands for Notices to Airmen) are notices issued about any change to airspace, aerodromes, or hazards, that require immediate notification. The AIP is published for the CAA by GroupEAD (a joint venture between Airways and GroupEAD Europe) under a Part 175 certificate.
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Looks like we might get another Electron flight soon -- @RocketLab says the next test vehicle just arrived at the New Zealand launch site. Test window dates will be announced in the coming weeks

https://twitter.com/lorengrush/status/930156389087014912

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Electron Arrives at Launch Site For Rocket Lab's Second Test Flight
Press Release - Source: Rocket LabPosted November 13, 2017 2:41 PM

Rocket Lab's second Electron orbital launch vehicle has arrived at Launch Complex 1 on New Zealand's Mahia Peninsula, signalling the beginning of pre-flight checks ahead of Rocket Lab's second test flight.

The test window dates are expected to be announced in coming weeks.

Rocket Lab founder and CEO Peter Beck says the rocket is performing well through rigorous acceptance tests and the team is focused on final flight preparations.

"It's a great feeling to have another rocket on the pad. To be preparing for a second flight just months after an inaugural test is unprecedented for a new launch vehicle. It's a testament to Electron's robust design and the hard-working team behind it," Beck says.

"The Still Testing flight is a significant milestone in opening access to space and unlocking the potential that holds in improving the everyday lives of millions of people," Beck says.

Improved weather and natural disaster prediction, internet from space and real-time crop monitoring are just a fraction of the benefits of more frequent and cost-effective access to low Earth orbit.

'Still Testing' will carry an Earth-imaging Dove satellite for Planet and Lemur-2 satellites for Spire for weather mapping and ship traffic tracking. Carrying payloads is a significant step for the Electron program, enabling Rocket Lab to gather crucial data and test systems for the deployment stage of a mission. Electron will go through a series of final checks and tests in the coming weeks before a yet-to-be-announced launch window opens.

As the flight is still a test, Rocket Lab anticipates several scrubs, or 'postponements', during the second test flight attempt.

For real-time updates throughout the launch window, follow Rocket Lab on Twitter @RocketLab

http://spaceref.biz/company/electron-arrives-at-launch-site-for-rocket-labs-second-test-flight.html

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'Still Testing' will carry an Earth-imaging Dove satellite for Planet and Lemur-2 satellites for Spire for weather mapping and ship traffic tracking.

It seems, that now only one Flock/Dove will be flying.

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Confirmed.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/rocket-lab-prepares-electron-second-test-flight/
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“Still Testing” will ferry at least three small satellites to a highly inclined elliptical orbit.

Riding to orbit on this flight are at least two Lemur-2 satellites as well as a single Dove satellite.
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Confirmed.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/rocket-lab-prepares-electron-second-test-flight/
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“Still Testing” will ferry at least three small satellites to a highly inclined elliptical orbit.

Riding to orbit on this flight are at least two Lemur-2 satellites as well as a single Dove satellite.

I think this is very intelligent. They are basically doing demo flights for key customers with a small number of sats, to minimize risk, and not guaranteeing to circularize. Honestly it's hard to fault the way Rocket Lab thinks and works. They are are really a good example. I wish more people followed their approach.
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'Still Testing' indicates they also have a sense of humor... and anticipate failure as one of the possible outcomes of each early launch.  Attitude seems vaguely familiar.

My bet is that they succeed soon and start building a base for technology growth.
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They are showing signs of success...   Let a hundred flowers bloom.
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Confirmed.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/rocket-lab-prepares-electron-second-test-flight/
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“Still Testing” will ferry at least three small satellites to a highly inclined elliptical orbit.

Riding to orbit on this flight are at least two Lemur-2 satellites as well as a single Dove satellite.

I think this is very intelligent. They are basically doing demo flights for key customers with a small number of sats, to minimize risk, and not guaranteeing to circularize. Honestly it's hard to fault the way Rocket Lab thinks and works. They are are really a good example. I wish more people followed their approach.

Given that they are shooting for a highly elliptical orbit, has anyone seen it mentioned anywhere what the apogee and perigee will be???

Also, is this the plan for the next two test flights in 2018?

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Also, is this the plan for the next two test flights in 2018?

If this test is successful, I believe they would cancel the third test flight and start shifting their backlog.
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Interesting that Rocket Lab is not required to recover the debris:-

http://www.epa.govt.nz/Publications/Pre_activity_notice_space_launch%20Rocket%20Lab%20ITSATEST%2020170515_Redacted.pdf

It's also interesting that, because they are receiving government funding via a Callaghan Innovation Growth Grant
there are no costs involved either.. although exactly how their operation fits into "domestic or international marine scientific research" is less clear.

I'm impressed that the EPA have developed a form specifically for the "Deposit of material on seabed from launch of space vehicle"!
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MEET DOVE PIONEER

Mike Safyan | November 21, 2017

Last month, the Planet team successfully integrated one of our Dove satellites into a Rocket Lab Maxwell deployer to be flown on the 2nd orbital flight (aka “Still Testing”) of Rocket Lab’s Electron launch vehicle. The launch is currently scheduled for December of this year and the rocket will drop off the Dove into a 300 x 500 km, 83 degree inclination orbit.
 
This Dove has been officially designated “Dove Pioneer,” and the name has several points of significance for us. On the one hand, it’s a nod to the awe-inspiring series of Pioneer missions conducted by NASA in the 50s, 60s and 70s. There is often a lot of buzz about NewSpace and how small satellites and small launch vehicles are changing the industry, but we owe a great deal of our success to the amazing space pioneers that preceded us. We stand on the shoulders of giants.

On the other hand, Planet and Rocket Lab really are on the precipice of pioneering something historic in the space industry. Planet has been launching and operating record-breaking numbers of satellites for the last several years, and Rocket Lab is at the forefront of providing low-cost, frequent, and mission-tailored access to space, further enabling game-changing small satellite architectures such as Planet’s.

Our brave Dove Pioneer will be on the first Rocket Lab launch to carry commercial payloads, paving the way for more missions to come. Stay tuned to @planetlabs and @rocketlab on Twitter for further mission updates.

[Picture] Planet’s Michael Soulage integrates Dove Pioneer into the Maxwell deployer

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On December 8 NZST, Rocket Lab will open a 10 day window in which our team will attempt a to launch our second Electron rocket, Still Testing.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/935916490716364800

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Yes!

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#StillTesting will be the first #Electron launch to be live streamed. We can't wait to share it with you. Stream will become available at http://www.rocketlabusa.com  minutes before a launch attempt.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/935923479794159617

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Four hour window, opens daily from 2.30 pm NZST.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/935924192456802304

Which I make 02:30 (ie am) UTC.

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Press release
Press kit

The tweets give the wrong time zone. NZDT (UTC+13) will be observed then and both the press release and press kit say NZDT. So the launch window is 01:30-05:30 UTC.

9:30PM-1:30AM EST, 6:30PM-10:30PM PST for my fellow Americans
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But is that on December 7 for us then in the USA?

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But is that on December 7 for us then in the USA?

Yes.
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Can't wait to see the zebra-like launcher in action again. Successfully, of course.

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Finally a launch in local time. But to make life easier for international viewers including UTC in press release would be nice. I just wish all launches quoted UTC along with launch site's local time, would make timezone conversion so much easier.

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Yesterday we successfully completed a wet dress rehearsal for #StillTesting at Rocket Lab Launch Complex 1. Preparations for launch coming along nicely.

https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/936710334710034432

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Any reports out there that can confirm if the launch is still targeting tomorrow?
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Nothing that I can find. Here's the link to the live stream. Showing "Page Not Found".

http://www.rocketlabusa.com/livestream
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Electron will be rolled onto the pad at Launch Complex 1 today for final #StillTesting prep. Targeting no earlier than 2.30 pm, Saturday 9 December NZDT for a launch attempt. Weather also not looking good for Sunday, so an attempt could still be pushed to Monday NZDT.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/938853871190814720

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Electron will be rolled onto the pad at Launch Complex 1 today for final #StillTesting prep. Targeting no earlier than 2.30 pm, Saturday 9 December NZDT for a launch attempt. Weather also not looking good for Sunday, so an attempt could still be pushed to Monday NZDT.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/938853871190814720

This is 0130UTC on December 9.

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Thank you, I tried to work it out and got that time, but it's good to get confirmation!

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5:30pm PST December 8, for those wondering ;) PST is UTC-8 hours.
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and just got confirmation that it will be livestreamed.

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Still planning a live stream via Facebook, YouTube and our website. Webcast will be available approx. 12 mins prior to launch attempt. Best way to catch it is to update your settings so you get notifications when we post here.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/938874394155220993
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Confirmed.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/rocket-lab-prepares-electron-second-test-flight/
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“Still Testing” will ferry at least three small satellites to a highly inclined elliptical orbit.
Given that they are shooting for a highly elliptical orbit, has anyone seen it mentioned anywhere what the apogee and perigee will be???
"Highly inclined elliptical orbit" rather than "highly elliptical orbit".  That means a relatively high inclination.  An elliptical orbit doesn't necessarily mean a large difference in perigee/apogee.  Technically, all earth orbits are, of course, "elliptical".

 - Ed Kyle
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Here is the link to the Rocketlab livestream and Youtube. Youtube link is currently showing unavailable.

https://www.rocketlabusa.com/live-stream

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Confirmed.
http://www.spaceflightinsider.com/organizations/rocket-lab/rocket-lab-prepares-electron-second-test-flight/
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“Still Testing” will ferry at least three small satellites to a highly inclined elliptical orbit.
Given that they are shooting for a highly elliptical orbit, has anyone seen it mentioned anywhere what the apogee and perigee will be???
"Highly inclined elliptical orbit" rather than "highly elliptical orbit".  That means a relatively high inclination.  An elliptical orbit doesn't necessarily mean a large difference in perigee/apogee.  Technically, all earth orbits are, of course, "elliptical".

 - Ed Kyle

Target orbit is 300 x 500 km x 83 deg. : http://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-sets-december-date-for-second-electron-launch/
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Rocket Lab's has cancelled launch of its second Electron rocket on Friday due to high winds.

The company opened the 10-day launching window from its Māhia Peninsula site on Friday, but high altitude winds meant a launch was unlikely before Monday afternoon.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/99667633/wind-delays-rocket-labs-still-testing-launch
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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/939022486003376128
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Still Testing is on the pad at LC-1 and looking healthy. Ideal launch conditions open up Monday. Currently targeting no earlier than 2.30 pm Monday 11 December NZDT (Sunday, 8.30 pm EST/5.30 pm PST).

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Still Testing is on the pad at LC-1 and looking healthy. Ideal launch conditions open up Monday. Currently targeting no earlier than 2.30 pm Monday 11 December NZDT (Sunday, 8.30 pm EST/5.30 pm PST).
Sounds promising. let's hope the weather holds for them.
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Still Testing is on the pad at LC-1 and looking healthy. Ideal launch conditions open up Monday. Currently targeting no earlier than 2.30 pm Monday 11 December NZDT (Sunday, 8.30 pm EST/5.30 pm PST).
Sounds promising. let's hope the weather holds for them.
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"Conditions are looking good for a #StillTesting Electron launch attempt today. Launch could happen any time between 14:30 - 18:30 NZDT. More updates and livestream details to follow throughout the day."

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/939936760393474049

Edit: Here's the image included with the tweet
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New livestream link:



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YouTube now says 1hour and 16 min, delayed an hour?

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#StillTesting daily launch window is almost open. Target lift-off time between 14:30 - 18:30 NZDT (1:30 - 5:30 UTC) to be provided shortly.

I guess they are not looking to launch at the top of the window then...
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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940022496039813120

#StillTesting daily launch window is almost open. Target lift-off time between 14:30 - 18:30 NZDT (1:30 - 5:30 UTC) to be provided shortly.

I guess they are not looking to launch at the top of the window then...

But they still have PLENTY of time
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Nevermind.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940031491521757186

"Still Testing launch attempt scrubbed for the day. Weather factors and orbital traffic mean opportunities for launch today are tight, so we'll try again tomorrow. Updates on new launch target to follow."
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“Orbital traffic” - that’s the first I’ve heard that as an abort criteria. Is that something?
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“Orbital traffic” - that’s the first I’ve heard that as an abort criteria. Is that something?

Could be that they aren't prepared to do a COLA in the early tests and so if that potentially might be necessary, then they just choose to scrub.
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“Orbital traffic” - that’s the first I’ve heard that as an abort criteria. Is that something?

Yes, but you only need to wait a few seconds for the path to clear. With a four hour window, that should not be a problem.
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“Orbital traffic” - that’s the first I’ve heard that as an abort criteria. Is that something?

Could be that they aren't prepared to do a COLA in the early tests and so if that potentially might be necessary, then they just choose to scrub.
A COLA is simply a cut-out in the launch window when the trajectory takes the vehicle too close to another orbiting object. It isn't a maneuver. What you're thinking of is most likely a CCAM (Contamination/Collision Avoidance Maneuver) which is something some upper stages does to clear the payload(s) after separation. But that has nothing to do with COLAs.
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Rocket Lab, in a statement, says “A combination of poor weather closing in and conjunction with the International Space Station left a narrow six minute window for a launch attempt,” hence the scrub. Try again no sooner than tomorrow.

At least they get some more data review time
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Nevermind.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940031491521757186

"Still Testing launch attempt scrubbed for the day. Weather factors and orbital traffic mean opportunities for launch today are tight, so we'll try again tomorrow. Updates on new launch target to follow."

First time I’ve ever seen orbital traffic used as a partial reason to scrub a launch.

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Next #StillTesting window opens 14:30, Tuesday 12 December NZDT (1:30 UTC). Updates on anticipated launch time within the four hour window to follow tomorrow.

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B6345/17 -  DANGER AREA NZD492 (MAHIA, HAWKE'S BAY) ACT. REF AIP SUP 137/17. SFC - FL999, 12 DEC 01:00 2017 UNTIL 12 DEC 06:05 2017 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 11 DEC 01:56 2017


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WESTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
NEW ZEALAND.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS 0130Z TO 0530Z DAILY
08 THRU 17 DEC IN AREAS BOUND BY:
A. 39-11.42S 177-46.64E, 39-11.42S 178-05.00E,
40-14.65S 178-04.62E, 40-14.93S 177-59.56E.
B. 43-06.00S 177-46.20E, 42-57.00S 179-15.60E,
48-30.00S 179-34.20W, 48-40.80S 178-51.00E.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 4224/17.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170630Z DEC 17.//

Authority: CNW 252/17 022121Z DEC 17.

Date: 022136Z DEC 17
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SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 29.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS SPACE DEBRIS
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63-18.00S 173-06.00W, 63-48.00S 177-18.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 4225/17.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 170630Z DEC 17.//

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The Rocket Lab launch team is on console and readying Electron for the push to orbit today from Launch Complex-1. The 4 hour window opens from 14:30 NZDT (1:30 UTC/ Mon 20:30 EST/17:30 PST). Anticipated lift-off time to follow. #StillTesting

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Fingers crossed for weather today.
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I think they'll launch as long as they don't hit a problem that can't be fixed in the 4 hour window. They do have a good amount of time
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Currently targeting no earlier than 16:00 NZDT (3:00 UTC) for #StillTesting launch attempt. Weather looking good, but we're continuing to monitor. Webcast can be viewed at youtu.be/F_oAGlhFezo. Live coverage will begin approx. 15 minutes prior to launch attempt.

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Do we have any launch time?

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Do we have any launch time?

Ah! NET 0300UTC...

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From the YouTube channel
“LIVE COVERAGE OF TODAY’S LAUNCH WILL COMMENCE AT APPROX 1530 NZDT (2:30 UTC)”
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From the YouTube channel
“LIVE COVERAGE OF TODAY’S LAUNCH WILL COMMENCE AT APPROX 1530 NZDT (2:30 UTC)”

Here's the picture that goes with that, slightly enhanced.
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Do we have any launch time?

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940396424222478336

"Currently targeting 3:00 UTC launch. Livestream will begin shortly before launch attempt."
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No new updates until now from Rocket Lab, so we expect live webcast to start in 10 minutes. Launch will take place NET 0300UTC.
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Stream is 'live', but it's just showing that the stream will start around 2:30UTC on a frozen picture.
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Stream is 'live', but it's just showing that the stream will start around 2:30UTC on a frozen picture.
Given that RocketLab have quoted anywhere from T-30 to T-12 minutes for the start of the webcast, I'd say we can't draw any real conclusions yet (currently T-11 minutes, nominally).
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Updated on livestream to 03:05 UTC for coverage

Stream is now 'starting' at 3:05UTC, been pushed back a bit.

Therefore launch is now back to around 3:20UTC, or 10:20PM EST.
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Now 3:30 UTC for webcast start.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940414731281506304

Currently targeting new lift off time of 16:50 NZDT (03:50 UTC).
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Confirmation from twitter:

"Currently targeting new lift off time of 16:50 NZDT (03:50 UTC)."

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940414731281506304

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940414731281506304

Now launch is 3:50UTC, stream starting at 3:30UTC, so 10:50PM and 10:30PM EST respectively.
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The clock keeps going the wrong way but there have been no twitter updates for over an hour now.

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Webcast start delayed one hour.
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Just under the 10 minute mark till coverage begins if the current time holds.

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Webcast started, intro video rolling!
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Webcast has started.
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Yay! Started. Let's light this candle...
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T-16 minutes. American commentator.
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Aw, an American is announcing it. No kiwi accents?

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Far view. Will end webcase if needed.

Sounds like they are doing the launch poll.
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Polling, so far all go

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T-14 minutes. Continue to count. Hear birds tweeting in the background.
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Great view of Electron on the pad, progressing with count!
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T-12 minutes.
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T-11 minutes.
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T -10m

good luck guys! ;D
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Call to open top clamp came at T-11, confirmed fully open at T-10.
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T-10 minutes. Stage 3 batts enables.
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The sound of the birds around the launch pad feels awfully familiar.
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T-9 minutes. Stage 1 engines ready.
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T-7 minutes. Describing mission sequence.
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T-6 minutes. FTS ground power disabled. AFTS on internal power.
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ABORT

Edit: abort held the count at T-2 seconds.
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Abort!
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Abort at T-2 seconds. Parameter was violated. Clamps release a few seconds after ignition.
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Possibility for another launch attempt today, depending on data review. 

MC is reviewing data, more info soon
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Going through abort procedure.
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rocket going to external power, charging batteries
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Strongback is back up
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Strongback raised and top clamp engaged.
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Strongback re-engaged.
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Scrubbed for today.


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Webcast ending.
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End of webcast.
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12K people at peak on Youtube. Quite a crowd
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That was a hair-raising nail-biter!! As the resident NZ 'Space Geek' for the media here - I've got to do a radio interview about this in half an hour. If anyone hears details I can regurgitate, let me know.
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OK, remember this is mainly updates here. Let's keep it focused as we wait for a new date.

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Rocket Lab #StillTesting Livestream - Tue 12 Dec - Aborted at T0


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Published on Dec 11, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Yp1HQicpo?t=001

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OK, remember this is mainly updates here. Let's keep it focused as we wait for a new date.
We need a scrub party letdown thread.
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Is the launch window similar tomorrow? I will likely be in a giant traffic jam here in Auckland and will have to 'watch' on my phone :(
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Oh, they finally scrubbed it. Well, better this than a failure.

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Just saw the replay. Unless my ears deceived me Peter Beck was 'Executive' on the com and did the countdown.

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www.rocketlabusa.com currently shows this message on the front page:
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ROCKET LAB CURRENTLY TARGETING NO EARLIER THAN 2.30 PM, THURSDAY 14 DECEMBER NZDT FOR THE NEXT 'STILL TESTING' LAUNCH ATTEMPT.

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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/940765307483848704
https://twitter.com/PeteLawler/status/940765760116461569
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Analysis of yesterday's launch attempt is complete. Launch was aborted due to rising liquid oxygen temperatures - the result of a LOx chilldown bleed schedule not compatible with the warm conditions of the day. The fix is simple. Next attempt tomorrow! #StillTesting

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Any vague UTC launch window time yet for tomorrow?

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Will provide an update soon!

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Weather bit patchy tomorrow, maybe thunderstorms. Friday onwards looking good.

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Today's #StillTesting launch attempt is currently targeted between 14:30-18:30 NZDT (1:30-5:30 UTC). Keeping an eye on weather. Updates on launch time to follow.

https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/941045854516813824

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Electron is now vertical at Launch Complex-1. #StillTesting

https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/941062557099368448

Again, launch time is 8:30PM-12:30AM EST, 5:30PM-9:30PM PST for my fellow American friends  ;D

EDIT: This idiot points at me forgot how to count. Thanks Sam Ho for the correction!
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Link for today’s attempt:


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1.5 hours to go..   It looks a bit cloudier today.
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Currently holding while the team monitors upper level winds. #StillTesting

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Livestream start time has been pushed back an hour, so 02:30 UTC.

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https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/941103611316187137

I'm not surprised - there's a high pressure system (slowly) pushing through and the forecast is for a small amount of windshear.  Must be okay though.. the timer is counting back down again now.  :)
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20 minutes and still counting, to the webcast!

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L- 15..... Still nothing
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Official scrub per twitter
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Planet's view of Launch Complex-1 as @RocketLab readies for today’s #StillTesting launch attempt with our Dove Pioneer aboard. Follow @RocketLab for updates.

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Rocket Lab currently targeting no earlier than 2:30 PM, Friday 15th December NZDT for the next 'Still Testing' launch attempt per RocketLab website. (01:30 UTC).
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I asked them on Facebook if this trouble with upper level winds was normal or whether their constraints were tighter because this is a test and they replied:

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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/941437489352282113

"Keeping an eye on upper level winds before a target launch time is determined for today. Updates to come. #StillTesting"

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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/941437489352282113

"Keeping an eye on upper level winds before a target launch time is determined for today. Updates to come. #StillTesting"

Today's forecast seems to show the airflow stabilising as that high pressure system moves further east during today - certainly looking better than yesterday.  My guess is they'll be in no hurry to launch.


(Disclaimer:  YMMV. I'm no weather forecaster and don't live in NZ either.. but access to NAIPS can be handy sometimes. :) )
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20 minutes to the window. Anyone got the latest link to the webcast, as the previous on this thread isn't working.

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As of this writing, RocketLab has yet to post the actual webcast link.
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The first place the webcast link always seems to update is here:

https://www.rocketlabusa.com/live-stream

As of now, there is no new webcast link for today.  They usually have had a countdown timer by this point however.  ???

EDIT: missing words
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If weather allows for an attempt today, we will make a livestream available approximately 15 minutes prior to a launch attempt.
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/941441825532809216

Still no livestream up, at least on the YouTube side.
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https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/941441825532809216

That's really not a lot of warning.

I guess that means I'll be one of many watching this launch (if it happens) on Youtube at a later date. :(
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Today's launch attempt has been scrubbed following the identification of a power fault during ground checkouts. Team will work the issue tomorrow before a new target launch time is determined in coming days.

First it was the weather, now it's a ground power fault.  Wow, this is getting intense!!!

Righto.. who's got the popcorn??  ;D
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#StillTesting launch attempt is now targeted for early 2018. Yesterday's power fault has been resolved, but with only one day remaining in the launch window we've decided to preserve crew rest and come back for an attempt in the new year.

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Well see you all in 2018 then and I hope it will be a better year for Rocket Lab....
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Had forgotten about the window. Despite the scrub a hats off to the workers behind this launch and hope to com back strong in the new year.
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Does anyone have any idea what are the constraints for the launch window?

It's certainly not anyone else competing for the range ;)

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Does anyone have any idea what are the constraints for the launch window?

It's certainly not anyone else competing for the range ;)
Boats still need to vacate area downrange, especially close to pad. This is popular holiday location, so they may wait till end of summer holidays ie end Jan.

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New year, new #StillTesting launch window! A nine day launch window opens January 20 NZDT for our second Electron rocket. Target lift-off during this time will be between 14:30 - 18:30 NZDT (1:30 - 5:30 UTC). We'll be live streaming.

https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/951529210123710464

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Sunset from Range Control at Rocket Lab Launch Complex-1. A great view for the team preparing for Electron's #StillTesting launch window later this week.

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