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Love how the route to pad 36 goes right by 39A. So close Glenn could give BFR/ITS a high-five.

I noticed this too. Seems pretty roundabout, can they not cross the bridge?

nope, everything goes north

can you explain why? just curious as the route from the port obviously doesn't go all the way to KSC first

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Love how the route to pad 36 goes right by 39A. So close Glenn could give BFR/ITS a high-five.

I noticed this too. Seems pretty roundabout, can they not cross the bridge?

nope, everything goes north

can you explain why? just curious as the route from the port obviously doesn't go all the way to KSC first

I meant going from KSC to the Cape

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The OLV is currently under development and would consist of a first stage, second stage, and the payload. A third stage may be added in the future. The vehicle would be up to 350 ft. (106.68 m) tall, with a diameter of approximately 23 ft. (7 m). The thrust of the vehicle would reach approximately, 4.5 million lbf (2 MN). The first and second stages would be powered by liquefied natural gas (LNG) and liquid oxygen (LOX). The possible third or alternative second stage would be powered by liquid hydrogen (LH2) and LOX.

4.5Mlbf is 643klbf per engine... assuming seven, of course -- or 17% higher than advertised for BE-4 going to ULA. (also should be 20MN)
That's about twice the thrust bump I'd expect from going from SL to vacuum, which should be 8-9%.

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8x550k =4.4M. They be counting 2nd stage engine.

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Love how the route to pad 36 goes right by 39A. So close Glenn could give BFR/ITS a high-five.

I noticed this too. Seems pretty roundabout, can they not cross the bridge?

nope, everything goes north

can you explain why? just curious as the route from the port obviously doesn't go all the way to KSC first

They need to keep the hardware level when transporting.  The bridge has a steep arch.

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Looks like Blue Origin has started clearing ground around LC-36 and LC-11:

From the Planet Beta Explorer Program

https://www.planet.com/explorer/#/center/-80.542,28.469/zoom/15

October-December 2016 and February 2017 Respectively
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Are any site plans yet available?
We know there will be a test stand at LC-11 (top?) and pad at LC-36.

Will NS also launch from here along with NG?

There are bits shown here.
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2017/03/blue-origin-making-cape-orbital-launch-site/
« Last Edit: 04/02/2017 09:52 PM by AncientU »
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Love how the route to pad 36 goes right by 39A. So close Glenn could give BFR/ITS a high-five.

I noticed this too. Seems pretty roundabout, can they not cross the bridge?

nope, everything goes north

can you explain why? just curious as the route from the port obviously doesn't go all the way to KSC first

They need to keep the hardware level when transporting.  The bridge has a steep arch.

It is load limits and not the arch

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Lots of demolition work at LC-36. It looks like the Atlas Centaur blockhouse is still there, but the old pads are now piles of concrete.

https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/862349907436425217

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Lots of demolition work at LC-36. It looks like the Atlas Centaur blockhouse is still there, but the old pads are now piles of concrete.

https://twitter.com/spacekscblog/status/862349907436425217
The pads were demolished years ago.

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Update as of Thursday, this project is coming along quickly for the size and infrastructure involved. This is an overview of the site from the Planet Beta program:

https://www.planet.com/explorer/
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Is Blue planning to do full-duration stage 1 test burns at the engine test site or at the pad? Or somewhere else / not at all?

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You can very distinctly see the outline of the flame trench taking shape in this update from Planet on 31 August:
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Gradatiähm...errr...something...

LOX storage tanks for #NewGlenn's LC-36 launchpad arrive at Port Canaveral
#BlueOrigin facebook.com/photo.php?fbid…

https://twitter.com/auersusan/status/941664607470522369
« Last Edit: 12/15/2017 09:08 PM by FutureSpaceTourist »

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I have a question on pad size. Will the available safe area support a much bigger vehicle like New Armstrong?

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I have a question on pad size. Will the available safe area support a much bigger vehicle like New Armstrong?

Impossible to answer since we know almost nothing about New Armstrong.

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I have a question on pad size. Will the available safe area support a much bigger vehicle like New Armstrong?

Impossible to answer since we know almost nothing about New Armstrong.
There has been a rumor that BO may be interested in LC-37 for NA after it has been vacated by D-IVH retirement.

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I have a question on pad size. Will the available safe area support a much bigger vehicle like New Armstrong?

Impossible to answer since we know almost nothing about New Armstrong.

I think it is a safe assumption it will have at least Saturn V thrust.

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Here's the latest 3-month average (Jul to Sep) and 1-month average (Nov) from Planet.

Given they're apparently delivering LOX storage tanks, I wonder how far along it is ...

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I wonder how much they’ll apply to this design based on what SpaceX did to “Slick 40”. It must be nice watching the leader and learning from their hard work to see what works and what doesn’t....
« Last Edit: 12/17/2017 11:06 AM by Johnnyhinbos »
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