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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1660 on: 12/07/2018 01:54 AM »
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1070834865619259393
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Boring Company product launch on Dec 18. More than a tunnel opening. Will include modded but fully road legal autonomous transport cars & ground to tunnel car elevators.

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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1661 on: 12/07/2018 06:49 PM »
It might just have to be a bit deeper to be undetectable. It seems like it would work better in bedrock than soil.

But isn't it almost impossible to detect sound and vibrations below about 10 feet of ground when you are standing on the surface?

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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1662 on: 12/07/2018 09:48 PM »
It might just have to be a bit deeper to be undetectable. It seems like it would work better in bedrock than soil.

But isn't it almost impossible to detect sound and vibrations below about 10 feet of ground when you are standing on the surface?

Just guessing that a technology that involves using a sort of small railgun every few seconds to blast ahead of the TBM head would produce somewhat more vibration, but that could be compensated for by going a bit deeper, whatever it takes based on the data.

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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1663 on: 12/07/2018 10:14 PM »
It might just have to be a bit deeper to be undetectable. It seems like it would work better in bedrock than soil.

But isn't it almost impossible to detect sound and vibrations below about 10 feet of ground when you are standing on the surface?

Just guessing that a technology that involves using a sort of small railgun every few seconds to blast ahead of the TBM head would produce somewhat more vibration, but that could be compensated for by going a bit deeper, whatever it takes based on the data.
There is of course a limit. This is earthquake teritory, after all, and a ricktor 3 quake directly underfoot (or whatever the railgun impact would be equivilant to) will be noticable, even if it wont cause panic like in other parts of the world.

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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1664 on: 12/08/2018 04:41 PM »
It might just have to be a bit deeper to be undetectable. It seems like it would work better in bedrock than soil.

But isn't it almost impossible to detect sound and vibrations below about 10 feet of ground when you are standing on the surface?

Just guessing that a technology that involves using a sort of small railgun every few seconds to blast ahead of the TBM head would produce somewhat more vibration, but that could be compensated for by going a bit deeper, whatever it takes based on the data.
There is of course a limit. This is earthquake teritory, after all, and a ricktor 3 quake directly underfoot (or whatever the railgun impact would be equivilant to) will be noticable, even if it wont cause panic like in other parts of the world.

Residents need to be made aware of when boring is happening near their homes. With proof that what is happening won't harm them or their property, and has the great benefit of providing new transportation services without causing much disruption, it should gain support. There will always be people who oppose it, but they can be "outvoted" by supporters and the city.

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Re: Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1665 on: 12/12/2018 09:11 PM »
Some progress on the environmental assessment for Chicago...

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Elon Musk’s planned tunneling project in Chicago, seemingly jeopardized when its biggest champion said he would not run for reelection, has taken an important step closer to building its promised transit route connecting downtown Chicago to O’Hare International Airport.

The Boring Co. is now midway through an environmental assessment, according to Tom Budescu, managing director of finance at the Chicago Infrastructure Trust, the organization charged with negotiating the contract on behalf of the city. Boring Co. was selected for the job this summer, an announcement that came with much fanfare, including a joint press conference with Musk and Mayor Rahm Emanuel. After the assessment is completed, the tunneling project will go to Chicago’s city council for review.

“We’re feeling very confident that the project agreement is getting to the point of refinement,” Budescu said at an Infrastructure Trust meeting on Tuesday. “We’re getting pretty far along in that process.” He said that Boring Co. was working with federal and local officials, including the Federal Highway Administration and the Chicago Department of Transportation, on the environmental review mandated by U.S. law. Because the tunnel is likely to go under an interstate roadway, the Federal Highway Administration is overseeing the review.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-12/elon-musk-s-chicago-tunnel-moves-closer-to-reality?srnd=premium

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Elon The Boring Company
« Reply #1666 on: 12/12/2018 11:11 PM »
I'd be pretty skeptical of any remarks by existing transportation experts. Musk is trying to upset public transportation in the same manner as he's done with EVs and launch vehicles. TBC may fail, but it will be in a new way.

Off the cuff remarks based on decades of experience are pretty worthless when applied to new methods, so unless these "experts" really do a serious analysis using Musk's new paradigms, I'm doubtful.

I’d take their word over someone on a forum who seems to think this stuff should be hand waved through without some consideration at all. We get enough anti-expert stuff on the web in general these days without it infesting here as well.
« Last Edit: 12/12/2018 11:15 PM by Star One »

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