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Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« on: 08/08/2016 08:26 PM »
Anyone else planning on watching OA-5? It's two weeks out, and haven't heard much since the NASA Social notice.

As usual, jmsjr's excellent map:

http://goo.gl/maps/7SDDv

I'll probably be at Arbuckle unless I decide to try out the big telescope/mirror lens at the Old Ferry.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #1 on: 08/09/2016 02:24 PM »
They say that you should get there one hour in advance.

But I was wondering, how much of a traffic delay should I expect when driving there?

Any other useful tips? 
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #2 on: 08/09/2016 04:21 PM »
They say that you should get there one hour in advance.

But I was wondering, how much of a traffic delay should I expect when driving there?

Any other useful tips?

Arbuckle Rd parking fills up fairly quickly (along the side of the road); if you get there later, expect a decent walk to the viewing area. It's not a formal viewing spot, just public land facing the launch point.  There are generally police there, directing parking and making sure you don't trespass onto the fields. The acoustics are really nice, you get a solid rumble there and an excellent view. I suggest a folding chair, 30% DEET spray, and waterproof shoes... most of the drier areas fill early.

Old Ferry is generally much less crowded, a bit further away, and has better parking. You can hang out on the piers, but they move enough to make using a tripod annoying. A better location in many ways, but less rumble. (I've gotten there 10 minutes before launch once, due to poor planning on my part, and got some decent photos.) When I was there for the LADEE launch, the night sky was rather spectacular to this suburbanite.

I've been told the Visitor Center fills up too, but it's so much further away I've never tried it. They often have mission-specific T-shirts and patches.

I haven't had trouble with traffic on the eastern shore, personally, but rush hour over the Severn River' and Bay Bridges can get interesting.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #3 on: 08/10/2016 02:20 AM »
From the Update/Discussion thread:

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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/757577518677303296
[Bill] Gerst[enmeier]: still planning next Antares/Cygnus launch to ISS for Aug 22, but “some challenges” to overcome to meet that date.

I might wait until I heard what these "challenges" are and what the status of overcoming them is before I put money down on airplane tickets and hotel rooms...
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #4 on: 08/10/2016 11:27 AM »
From the Update/Discussion thread:

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https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/757577518677303296
[Bill] Gerst[enmeier]: still planning next Antares/Cygnus launch to ISS for Aug 22, but “some challenges” to overcome to meet that date.

I might wait until I heard what these "challenges" are and what the status of overcoming them is before I put money down on airplane tickets and hotel rooms...

I agree, it's been EXTREMELY quiet from NASA and / or Orbital lately concerning this launch. Considering the targeted date is only 12 days away, I would expect to hear more about it. I'm expecting it to slip due to this, but that's just my gut instinct, I could be wrong.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #5 on: 08/10/2016 01:36 PM »
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Orbital ATK says 1st launch of ISS cargo from Wallops on redesigned Antares rocket pushed back about month to 2nd half of Sept.

Official update from Orbital ATK:
http://www.orbitalatk.com/news-room/feature-stories/OA5-Mission-Page/default.aspx?prid=92
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Due to a variety of interrelated factors, including the company’s continuing processing, inspection and testing of the flight vehicle at Wallops Island, and NASA’s scheduling of crew activities on the International Space Station in preparation for upcoming cargo and crew launches, Orbital ATK is currently working with NASA to target a window in the second half of September for the launch of the OA-5 mission. A more specific launch date will be identified in the coming weeks.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #6 on: 08/10/2016 01:46 PM »
Anyone else planning on watching OA-5? It's two weeks out, and haven't heard much since the NASA Social notice.

As usual, jmsjr's excellent map:

http://goo.gl/maps/7SDDv

I'll probably be at Arbuckle unless I decide to try out the big telescope/mirror lens at the Old Ferry.

-Bob

Great first post! That map is a great resource for non locals (well I suppose for locals not in the know as well!).

I normally watch launches from a friend's house located next to the Assawoman post office (we have a party out back of his place until and often after launch). It isn't as close as arbuckle, but he has AC, a kitchen, a bathroom, NASA TV, internet, etc. This time, however, I'm going to try for a closer place at my girlfriend's parent's dock near Wishart Point. I just hope it doesn't push into the last week of September because I'll be out of town on vacation...

Excited to see a large orbital (as opposed to sub-orbital... which are still fun to watch by the way!) vehicle launch again! I've watched several of the Minotaur vehicle launches out of WFF and all of the Antares launches. I'd hate to miss this one.

Also, to elaborate on the traffic situation, I can confirm that trying to show up an hour before should be fine at any of the viewing sites except for the visitor center. That will fill up very quickly. I'd not want to watch from there though as it's rather far away compared to a lot of other sites. The old ferry dock is a good place to watch from, as someone mentioned.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #7 on: 09/27/2016 11:48 PM »
Do we know the status of Arbuckle Neck Road? Can we still view near the water?

Thanks!

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #8 on: 10/10/2016 06:25 PM »
Hey, Antonioe, think you can source a KML file for the OA-5 launch like you did for Antares-One? 

I just got this... not sure how it works... I think the first color is stage 1, the next stage 2, the third the post-burnout maneuvers (payload sep, C/CAM)

ALso, some views from points of interest (make sure 3-D buildings are on)

Courtesy Carlos Niederstraser, Orbital

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #9 on: 10/12/2016 04:08 PM »
Nice article from Space.com on the viewing opportunities along the mid-Atlantic coastline. 

Maps courtesy of Orbital ATK. 

http://www.space.com/34348-nighttime-private-rocket-launch-east-coast-visibility.html


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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #10 on: 10/15/2016 04:36 PM »
Anyone going to the Old Ferry Dock for the launch tomorrow?  I'll tweet my progress at @jsmjr


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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #11 on: 10/16/2016 12:00 AM »
Anyone going to the Old Ferry Dock for the launch tomorrow?  I'll tweet my progress at @jsmjr

Thanks to your fantastic map, I'm planning on being there tomorrow. I had originally hoped to view from Arbuckle Neck, but I called the visitor center earlier today and was told that Police will be blocking public entry starting around 12noon (although I have no idea if that means if anyone hoping to camp out could enter before that and not be kicked out).

Do you think Old Ferry Dock will become quite crowded? I'm not sure exactly when I should try to be there to get a good spot.

I've never witnessed any launch in person, so any useful tips would be greatly appreciated. Prior to the 2014 incident, I had been planning to come down for the next launch. It's been a long, but worthwhile wait. Also, I've been reading these forums for a long time, but this is my first post. You guys are awesome!

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #12 on: 10/16/2016 02:34 AM »
Anyone going to the Old Ferry Dock for the launch tomorrow?  I'll tweet my progress at @jsmjr

I plan to be there tomorrow... I was going to shoot a few prelaunch shots from Arbuckle, but it sounds like that won't be an option.

-Bob

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #13 on: 10/16/2016 02:16 PM »
Anyone going to the Old Ferry Dock for the launch tomorrow?  I'll tweet my progress at @jsmjr

I plan to be there tomorrow... I was going to shoot a few prelaunch shots from Arbuckle, but it sounds like that won't be an option.

-Bob

Any updates from on-site would be very helpful.  Not getting there until later after driving from DC.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #14 on: 10/16/2016 02:57 PM »
I will be coming from NJ (some 4 hours one-way...), still undecided where to go (also will be my first time)

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #15 on: 10/16/2016 06:00 PM »
Whelp, no launch today (Sunday).  Try, try again on Monday.  My status is now uncertain for attending, but at least I found out before I left the house.

BTW, I found that the ESVA tourism folks now have a page devoted to launch visitors.  Lists some viewing sites (including Arbuckle Neck Road!) as well as - useful for today - suggestions on what to do in case of delays.  Check it out.

http://www.esvatourism.org/space/landing_page_space.asp
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #16 on: 10/16/2016 08:29 PM »
Arbuckle will be closed according to police, road block was to be set up today at 4pm but wasn't needed. Will be blocking the road again tomorrow they said around the same time.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #17 on: 10/17/2016 12:44 PM »
Ok, got the last room for tonight at the EconLodge in Pocomoke City MD, so I'm driving down for the launch tonight. I'm hoping to get into Arbuckle before it is closed, but Old Ferry will be my backup. Hope you see some of you there!!
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #18 on: 10/17/2016 02:52 PM »
Ok, got the last room for tonight at the EconLodge in Pocomoke City MD, so I'm driving down for the launch tonight. I'm hoping to get into Arbuckle before it is closed, but Old Ferry will be my backup. Hope you see some of you there!!

Arbuckle will be closed and cleared of folks FYI. So even if you get there before, don't plan on staying.

See you all at the other location. Will be my daughters first launch!
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #19 on: 10/17/2016 03:25 PM »
Does anyone know why the Arbuckle Neck viewing site is closed?  Is it because of complaints by residents, or did they expand the safety exclusion zone a little bit after the Antares was modified?

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #20 on: 10/17/2016 05:17 PM »
Helps with the E_c calculations.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #21 on: 10/17/2016 05:43 PM »
Helps with the E_c calculations.

Shouldn't those be lower with the new version of the rocket?

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #22 on: 10/17/2016 05:54 PM »
I'm not going to make it tonight... meeting this afternoon I can't duck. Next time, and best of luck for a successful launch.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #23 on: 10/17/2016 09:32 PM »
At Ferry Landing.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #24 on: 10/17/2016 09:39 PM »
At Ferry Landing.

Looks like a gorgeous evening.  Wish I was there.  Please do report back on how crowded it gets, with Arbuckle Neck closed.  Thanks!

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #25 on: 10/17/2016 09:50 PM »
So far just 100 or so; easy nearby parking. But the mosquitos (and other bugs) are clearly the dominant species.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #26 on: 10/17/2016 10:11 PM »
 How does one get to the ferry landing ?

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #27 on: 10/17/2016 10:23 PM »
I found my own answer. Point breeze lane looks near it.
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #28 on: 10/17/2016 11:23 PM »
Definitely much more crowded now. And with temp dropping, so haze/fog increasing over the marsh :(
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #29 on: 10/17/2016 11:59 PM »
Just saw the first stage burn through MECO, barely visible low in the Southwest through the hazy clouds from up here just outside of Boston. Not a spectacular show but gratifying nonetheless.

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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #30 on: 10/18/2016 04:09 AM »
My launch view from a rooftop in Washington, DC

EDIT: Download GIF for animation.  Also attached composite.

EDIT 2.0:  Not sure that GIF is working.  It can also be found here:  https://imgur.com/gTAZIZG
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #31 on: 10/18/2016 06:52 AM »
View (video) of the launch from the old ferry dock/landing (excuse the wobbly overloaded and overextended tripod)


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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #32 on: 10/18/2016 04:47 PM »
Wish I could of made the trip, next time. :-)
Had to move the camera during the exposure I was a bit out of the field of view.

View from Coatesville, PA
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #33 on: 10/19/2016 02:13 PM »
View (video) of the launch from the old ferry dock/landing (excuse the wobbly overloaded and overextended tripod)
Great vid. Thanks for posting. My pics didin't come out well (overexposed). I did meet up with smith5se. Clearly we need an NSF banner or dinner gathering next time!
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #34 on: 10/19/2016 06:18 PM »
At Ferry Landing.

You wouldn't happen to be the guy in a plaid shirt with a spotting scope, would you? I was the guy with tripod mounted binoculars set up to the right of the guy with the huge, camouflage-wrapped telephoto lens.

That was such an awesome experience (my first). I met some really great people. It's a shame about the Arbuckle closure, because the ferry dock location did get pretty packed within the last 45min or so. I was the third person there when I arrived at 2pm, however. I don't have any great equipment and very limited experience, but I did capture a decent long exposure from launch to MECO (edit: I haven't tried to enchance it yet)

And here's my video if anyone's interested/bored:
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Re: Orbital ATK's Antares/Cygnus OA-5 Launch viewing
« Reply #35 on: 10/20/2016 12:03 AM »
Yes, that was me, right at the start of the dock. Sarah was the one with small child and dog in tow. I was checking NSF and @NASASpaceFlight tweets the whole time...
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