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The emblem of the crew of Soyuz MS-02 is made in a perfect round shape, symbolizing the perfection of everything created in the universe.

In the center of the emblem there is an image of the sacred mount Tabor, located in the Holy Land. On top of the mountain is a source of light, symbolizing the sanctification that lights all Earthly things. From this source emerge three beams, representing the desire of the members of the crew to the space, and the intention to successfully complete all upcoming tasks.

Mount Tabor is framed by the letter "F", depicted in the form of the orbit at the top of which is the International Space Station, and at the base the Soyuz spacecraft. Inside the letter "F" depicts the stars symbolize the surrounding space and three stars symbolize the crew, whose names are inscribed in stylized font in the outline of the emblem, along with the state flags of Russia and the United States, the name of the ship Soyuz MS-02 and the logo of Roscosmos. Also inside the letter "F" is “Favor”- the crew call sign, the main symbol of the logo. Patch designed by Serguei Rijikov together with Andrei Babkin. 

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I'm a bit confused about Soyuz MS-02's launch pad.

On Gunter's Space Page, where it talks about the Soyuz-FG rocket, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 31/6. However, on russianhalo117's Russian Launch Schedule, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 1/5 (Gagarin's Start).

Which pad is more likely?
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #2 on: 07/13/2016 12:06 AM »
I'm a bit confused about Soyuz MS-02's launch pad.

On Gunter's Space Page, where it talks about the Soyuz-FG rocket, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 31/6. However, on russianhalo117's Russian Launch Schedule, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 1/5 (Gagarin's Start).

Which pad is more likely?
All Soyuz MS were originally planned to fly via Soyuz 2.1A, thus still to the present time can only fly from 31/6. Baikonur  Soyuz-FG can fly from both. It is extremely likely that Gunter did not update his page when the mission switched launcher versions unless he is aware of newly scheduled maintenance activities or the scheduling of the restart of 1/5 pad upgrades to support Soyuz 2 launcher family that have been continuously delayed for going on a decade now.
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #4 on: 08/16/2016 06:37 PM »
Cosmonauts primary and backup crews of the ISS-49/50 successfully qualified for space flight.

http://www.gctc.ru/main.php?id=3556
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Where's Shane Kimbrough in the recent photos?
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #6 on: 08/16/2016 09:23 PM »
Where's Shane Kimbrough in the recent photos?
These images are only of Russian Cosmonaut specific training since only Russians will pilot on this flight Soyuz-MS Commander and Pilot. ISS Increment training is separate.
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Does that mean Kimbrough has been removed from Soyuz MS-02? I ask that because there was a rumor stating that only two people will fly aboard each Soyuz.
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #8 on: 08/17/2016 02:52 AM »
Does that mean Kimbrough has been removed from Soyuz MS-02? I ask that because there was a rumor stating that only two people will fly aboard each Soyuz.
No, it is not a rumor. It is an official proposal by ROSCOSMOS (Roscosmos State Corporation for Space Activities) and United Rocket and Space Corporation's Subsidiary RSC Energia to the ISS MCB. No, they are still flying three ISS crew members (RS and USOS) a Soyuz until at least no earlier than the first operational commercial crew flights. Otherwise USOS won't have a means of transport or would need three Soyuz at the ISS for the mid-term future. ISS MCB has only just heard the proposal at their last meeting, which was only last week. Now they have set up a joint team to research and fully analyze the proposal and decisions won't be made until at least the end of 2017 and the beginning of 2018. An start date is contingent of having Commercial Crew development and testing complete. Russians are occupying the pilot seats (Left (Pilot) and Center (Commander)) and Kimbrough is the right seat (aka the I have no controls and responsibilities except in emergencies seat).
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #9 on: 08/17/2016 10:04 PM »
I'm a bit confused about Soyuz MS-02's launch pad.

On Gunter's Space Page, where it talks about the Soyuz-FG rocket, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 31/6. However, on russianhalo117's Russian Launch Schedule, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 1/5 (Gagarin's Start).

Which pad is more likely?


What kind of modifications are needed to adapt the launch gantries at Site 31/6 to accommodate the Soyuz MS payload fairing at the same time as the bigger Soyuz 2-xx´s ?
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #10 on: 08/18/2016 01:20 AM »
I'm a bit confused about Soyuz MS-02's launch pad.

On Gunter's Space Page, where it talks about the Soyuz-FG rocket, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 31/6. However, on russianhalo117's Russian Launch Schedule, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 1/5 (Gagarin's Start).

Which pad is more likely?
All Soyuz MS were originally planned to fly via Soyuz 2.1A, thus still to the present time can only fly from 31/6. Baikonur  Soyuz-FG can fly from both. It is extremely likely that Gunter did not update his page when the mission switched launcher versions unless he is aware of newly scheduled maintenance activities or the scheduling of the restart of 1/5 pad upgrades to support Soyuz 2 launcher family that have been continuously delayed for going on a decade now.
What kind of modifications are needed to adapt the launch gantries at Site 31/6 to accommodate the Soyuz MS payload fairing at the same time as the bigger Soyuz 2-xx´s ?
no change needed to the gantries for the payload fairing. 1/5 can currently only fly analog rockets, whereas 31/6 can fly all present Soyuz rocket versions as the pad is equiped with both analog an digital systems. The 1/5 gantries and pad would need a complete rebuild and digital modernization to support Soyuz-2 family as the older electrical, data and communication systems are incompatible and to slow to function correctly with the new. The gantries would need to be widened to support the fairings used by larger payloads and those requiring Volga and Fregat-M upper stages. Since the decision to build Vostochny and the outlash of certain CIS and former CIS nations this project has been heavily slowed down because Baikonur is outside the Russian Federation and the current executive administration of the Russian Federation has frozen the projects in nations that complain and have conflicts with Russia. I can go into detail in a PM so that we are not tying up server space because of this thread.
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #11 on: 08/18/2016 07:01 PM »
Some photos from NASA Johnson Flickr:
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #12 on: 08/21/2016 12:35 AM »
I'm a bit confused about Soyuz MS-02's launch pad.

On Gunter's Space Page, where it talks about the Soyuz-FG rocket, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 31/6. However, on russianhalo117's Russian Launch Schedule, it says that Soyuz MS-02 will take off from Site 1/5 (Gagarin's Start).

Which pad is more likely?
All Soyuz MS were originally planned to fly via Soyuz 2.1A, thus still to the present time can only fly from 31/6. Baikonur  Soyuz-FG can fly from both. It is extremely likely that Gunter did not update his page when the mission switched launcher versions unless he is aware of newly scheduled maintenance activities or the scheduling of the restart of 1/5 pad upgrades to support Soyuz 2 launcher family that have been continuously delayed for going on a decade now.
What kind of modifications are needed to adapt the launch gantries at Site 31/6 to accommodate the Soyuz MS payload fairing at the same time as the bigger Soyuz 2-xx´s ?
no change needed to the gantries for the payload fairing. 1/5 can currently only fly analog rockets, whereas 31/6 can fly all present Soyuz rocket versions as the pad is equiped with both analog an digital systems. The 1/5 gantries and pad would need a complete rebuild and digital modernization to support Soyuz-2 family as the older electrical, data and communication systems are incompatible and to slow to function correctly with the new. The gantries would need to be widened to support the fairings used by larger payloads and those requiring Volga and Fregat-M upper stages. Since the decision to build Vostochny and the outlash of certain CIS and former CIS nations this project has been heavily slowed down because Baikonur is outside the Russian Federation and the current executive administration of the Russian Federation has frozen the projects in nations that complain and have conflicts with Russia. I can go into detail in a PM so that we are not tying up server space because of this thread.

I just had a look into Site 31 gantries and saw the reconfigurable upper service levels, with their movable floor panels.

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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #14 on: 08/25/2016 10:05 AM »
August 24, 2016
MEDIA ADVISORY M16-102

NASA Astronaut Shane Kimbrough Available for Interviews Before Space Station Mission

NASA astronaut Shane Kimbrough, who is making final preparations for a September launch to the International Space Station, is available for live satellite interviews from 7 to 8 a.m. EDT Tuesday, Sept. 6. The interviews will air live on NASA Television and the agency’s website.

Kimbrough will participate in the interviews live from the Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center in Star City, Russia. The interviews will be preceded at 6:30 a.m. by a video highlighting his mission training.

To participate, media should contact Thomas Gerczak at 281-792-7515 or thomas.j.gerczak@nasa.gov no later than 3 p.m. Friday, Sept. 2. Media participating in the live shots must tune to NASA Television’s NTV-3 channel. Satellite tuning information is available at:

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Kimbrough and his crewmates, cosmonauts Andrey Borisenko and Sergey Ryzhikov of the Russian space agency Roscosmos, will launch aboard a Soyuz spacecraft at 2:17 p.m. Sept. 23 from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. This will be the second flight of the upgraded Soyuz MS spacecraft, and the crew will spend two days testing the modified systems before docking to the station at 5:05 p.m. Sept. 25.

At the space station, they will join Expedition 49 members NASA astronaut Kate Rubins, Roscosmos cosmonaut Anatoly Ivanishin and Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency astronaut Takuya Onishi. Together, the six crew members will continue the several hundred experiments in biology, biotechnology, physical science and Earth science currently under way and scheduled to take place aboard humanity’s only orbiting lab.

A retired Army colonel and native of Killeen, Texas, Kimbrough completed his first spaceflight in 2008 on space shuttle mission STS-126. During this mission, he worked to expand the living quarters of the space station to accommodate a six-member crew – an effort that included two spacewalks, during which he logged 12 hours and 52 minutes outside the orbiting laboratory.

Kimbrough is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, New York, and the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta. He began his NASA career at the agency’s Johnson Space Center as a flight simulation engineer on the Shuttle Training Aircraft before being selected as an astronaut in 2004. This will be Kimbrough’s first long-duration stay on the space station. He is scheduled to return to Earth with crew members Borisenko and Ryzhikov in February 2017.

Get the latest NASA TV schedule and video streaming information at:

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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #15 on: 08/25/2016 03:16 PM »
Does that mean Kimbrough has been removed from Soyuz MS-02? I ask that because there was a rumor stating that only two people will fly aboard each Soyuz.
No, it is not a rumor. It is an official proposal by ROSCOSMOS (Roscosmos State Corporation for Space Activities) and United Rocket and Space Corporation's Subsidiary RSC Energia to the ISS MCB. No, they are still flying three ISS crew members (RS and USOS) a Soyuz until at least no earlier than the first operational commercial crew flights. Otherwise USOS won't have a means of transport or would need three Soyuz at the ISS for the mid-term future. ISS MCB has only just heard the proposal at their last meeting, which was only last week. Now they have set up a joint team to research and fully analyze the proposal and decisions won't be made until at least the end of 2017 and the beginning of 2018. An start date is contingent of having Commercial Crew development and testing complete. Russians are occupying the pilot seats (Left (Pilot) and Center (Commander)) and Kimbrough is the right seat (aka the I have no controls and responsibilities except in emergencies seat).

I hope that your information is correct, and that this proposal will be subject to a fully considered response from the ISS partners, with an appropriate timeline, and, if adopted, period of transition. 

However, over on the NK forums, where there have been many dozens of posts on the topic, there are suggestions that this change could be implemented from Mar 2017 (presumably meaning MS-04) and that previously announced crew assignments for next year, will only be finally decided next month.

Overall, this proposal looks like very bad news for young cosmonauts from the 2010/2012 cohorts, who's slender chance of flights in the next 3/4 years will virtually disappear, and even the experienced guys who will command the missions wil be reduced to little more than taxi drivers.

There is also comment elsewhere, that with so few future flights, cosmonauts, instructors and other experienced staff will drift away from the Russian space industry.

I suppose the empty seats will end up being filled by tourists, or maybe paying guests,  from friendly nations but overall, it seems like a pretty sad state of affairs

 

 


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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 22, 2016
« Reply #16 on: 08/25/2016 10:26 PM »
Does that mean Kimbrough has been removed from Soyuz MS-02? I ask that because there was a rumor stating that only two people will fly aboard each Soyuz.
No, it is not a rumor. It is an official proposal by ROSCOSMOS (Roscosmos State Corporation for Space Activities) and United Rocket and Space Corporation's Subsidiary RSC Energia to the ISS MCB. No, they are still flying three ISS crew members (RS and USOS) a Soyuz until at least no earlier than the first operational commercial crew flights. Otherwise USOS won't have a means of transport or would need three Soyuz at the ISS for the mid-term future. ISS MCB has only just heard the proposal at their last meeting, which was only last week. Now they have set up a joint team to research and fully analyze the proposal and decisions won't be made until at least the end of 2017 and the beginning of 2018. An start date is contingent of having Commercial Crew development and testing complete. Russians are occupying the pilot seats (Left (Pilot) and Center (Commander)) and Kimbrough is the right seat (aka the I have no controls and responsibilities except in emergencies seat).

I hope that your information is correct, and that this proposal will be subject to a fully considered response from the ISS partners, with an appropriate timeline, and, if adopted, period of transition. 

However, over on the NK forums, where there have been many dozens of posts on the topic, there are suggestions that this change could be implemented from Mar 2017 (presumably meaning MS-04) and that previously announced crew assignments for next year, will only be finally decided next month.

Overall, this proposal looks like very bad news for young cosmonauts from the 2010/2012 cohorts, who's slender chance of flights in the next 3/4 years will virtually disappear, and even the experienced guys who will command the missions wil be reduced to little more than taxi drivers.

There is also comment elsewhere, that with so few future flights, cosmonauts, instructors and other experienced staff will drift away from the Russian space industry.

I suppose the empty seats will end up being filled by tourists, or maybe paying guests,  from friendly nations but overall, it seems like a pretty sad state of affairs

 

 


The march 2017 date was stated during a recent NASA briefing as the plan.

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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 23, 2016
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Is there a hi res version of the backup crew portrait available?

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Re: Soyuz FG launch with Soyuz-MS-02 - September 23, 2016
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