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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #1 on: 05/20/2015 10:48 PM »
Kim Jong-un Orders New Long-Range Missile Launch for October

http://www.matthewaid.com/post/119363269581/kim-jong-un-orders-new-long-range-missile-launch
38 North to start coverage preparations next week. Pads at 2 bases are already known to be ready to recieve rockets and recent testing over past few months are believed to be either acceptance firings like what SpaceX does or testing of a planned upgraded upper stage. ill add link when they issue the post on 38 North.
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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #2 on: 05/21/2015 11:19 AM »
Kim Jong-un Orders New Long-Range Missile Launch for October

http://www.matthewaid.com/post/119363269581/kim-jong-un-orders-new-long-range-missile-launch


So when it comes to NK they call Long-Range Missile not SLV !!!  ::)
« Last Edit: 05/21/2015 11:20 AM by Soheil »
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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #3 on: 05/21/2015 05:42 PM »
Kim Jong-un Orders New Long-Range Missile Launch for October

http://www.matthewaid.com/post/119363269581/kim-jong-un-orders-new-long-range-missile-launch


So when it comes to NK they call Long-Range Missile not SLV !!!  ::)

There is not much functional difference between a SLV and an ICBM. The terms are interchangeable.  ;)

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #4 on: 05/31/2015 06:17 PM »
Kim Jong-un Orders New Long-Range Missile Launch for October

http://www.matthewaid.com/post/119363269581/kim-jong-un-orders-new-long-range-missile-launch
38 North to start coverage preparations next week. Pads at 2 bases are already known to be ready to recieve rockets and recent testing over past few months are believed to be either acceptance firings like what SpaceX does or testing of a planned upgraded upper stage. ill add link when they issue the post on 38 North.
Additional work:
New Construction at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station

http://38north.org/2015/05/sohae052815/





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Recent commercial satellite imagery shows new construction at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station (“Tongchang-ri”), specifically at the site used to launch the Unha space launch vehicle (SLV), most recently in 2012. While the upgrading of the gantry to support a space launch vehicle larger than the Unha was essentially completed by late 2014, Pyongyang has been further modifying the launch area to include a new support building at the east end of the pad as well as a platform that appears to move along rails from that building to the launch tower.

While the exact purpose of this building remains unclear, one possibility is that the North Koreans are building a complex similar to facilities observed in China, such as at the Jiuquan Launch Center, that include buildings where the launch vehicle is assembled, processed, and checked, then placed on a movable platform and rolled to the launch tower. As work moves to completion, a more definitive conclusion will be possible.[1][2]






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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #5 on: 07/24/2015 08:46 PM »
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/video/2015-07/23/c_134438148.htm

DPRK upgrading missile launch tower
English.news.cn   2015-07-23 08:09:31

BEIJING, July 23 (Xinhuanet) -- South Korea's defense ministry says it is closely monitoring the Democratic of People's Republic of Korea after reports that it was upgrading a missile tower.

South Korea's Yonhap News agency reported that the DPRK had erected a new, taller launch tower at its missile base. The 67-meter tower would be able to accommodate the launch of a longer-range missile than the rocket test-fired in December 2012.

Yonhap quoted a South Korean government source as saying the newly upgraded Tongchang-ri launch pad would most likely be used around the 70th anniversary of the founding of the DPRK's ruling Workers' Party on October 10.

(Source: CNTV.cn)

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #6 on: 07/24/2015 08:50 PM »
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-07/22/c_134435242.htm

DPRK erects taller launch pad for long-range rocket: Yonhap
English.news.cn   2015-07-22 10:03:08
SEOUL, July 22 (Xinhua) -- The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) erected a taller launch pad for long-range rocket at a rocket base near the west coast, South Korea's Yonhap News Agency reported Wednesday citing a government official.

Extension works for the 67-meter-high launch tower was nearly completed recently in Tongchang-ri in the DPRK's northwest, the official was quoted as saying. The works began in late 2013 to extend the 50-meter launch pad.

With the extension, the DPRK was estimated to be able to fire long-range rockets twice the size of Unha-3, which was fired into space orbit in December 2012, two months before the DPRK's third nuclear test. The 30-meter-long, three-stage Unha rocket was fired from the Tongchang-ri launch pad.

The official was quoted as saying that the DPRK is to use the new launch tower to fire a longer-range rocket than the previous Unha-3 around the 70th anniversary of the founding of the Workers' Party of Korea on Oct. 10.

Signs of producing longer-range rockets were detected at an arms factory near Pyongyang, another official was quoted as saying.

Seoul said U.N. Security Council resolutions have banned all launches based on the DPRK's ballistic missile technology.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #8 on: 09/15/2015 07:14 AM »
OK, so presumably this is Pekdosan-1 to the left, Unha-2 in the middle and Unha-3 to the right. We can also presumably see Kwangmyongsong 1 and the bottom part of Kwangmyongsong 2 above Pekdosan-1 and Unha-2, respectively. The model of Kwangmyongsong 2 is I believe the first time we have seen a picture of this satellite.
« Last Edit: 09/15/2015 07:23 AM by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #9 on: 09/23/2015 12:59 PM »
claims of an imminent launch in a CNN interview right in front of the new satellite control center (in a quite odd setting):

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/23/asia/north-korea-space-center-ripley-schwarz/


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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #10 on: 09/24/2015 06:08 AM »
Thanks Mighty-T. Also, lots of new information at

https://www.northkoreatech.org/category/space/

The first photo gives a much better view of Kwangmyongsong 2. The photo to the right of Unha-3 appears to be Pekdosan-1. The small white vehicle to the left looks like Pekdosan-1 and has the same markings, but is painted white instead of dark grey/green.

I've also translated the writing on the rockets. Pekdosan-1 and Unha-2 have 조선 which means North Korea. Unha-3 has 은하 which means Galaxy.
« Last Edit: 09/24/2015 06:48 AM by Steven Pietrobon »
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #11 on: 09/26/2015 04:04 AM »
You have my attention, going to full pre-launch alert.

We need to inform foreign press in Pyongyang that launch trajectory passes west of the city elevation 50 degrees, easily visible. Don't expect warning. Run a loop dashcam-type camera out the west-facing hotel window.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #12 on: 09/26/2015 01:33 PM »
North Korea: Long-Range Rocket Launch Unlikely On or Before October 10

http://38north.org/2015/09/sohae092415/


Work platforms are closed, with cover replaced only on top segments.


Continued construction on fuel/oxidizer buildings at the engine test stand begins.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - October 10, 2015 (?)
« Reply #13 on: 10/08/2015 08:31 AM »
The original reports some months ago were that we would see a satellite launch on October 10th (2015), so just wondering if that is still on the cards or whether it has slipped way into the future now.
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The original reports some months ago were that we would see a satellite launch on October 10th (2015), so just wondering if that is still on the cards or whether it has slipped way into the future now.

This assumed launch is slipped into the future
38north has published some articles about this subject and they conclude no imminent launch.

North hints at ‘satellite’ launch during winter

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/Article.aspx?aid=3010011

North Korea said Tuesday it had the capabilities to a put a satellite into orbit during the harsh winter season, raising suspicion that it might proceed to fire a long-range rocket after the Oct. 10 anniversary of its ruling party.

The remarks by the North, carried by its weekly propaganda publication Tongil Shinbo, came amid heightened expectations that the Communist country would opt against firing a long-range rocket on the 70th anniversary of the founding of its Workers’ Party, which falls Saturday.

Noting its launch in December 2012 of the Kwangmyongsong-3 satellite, North Korea said a satellite would be put into space “at a time and location chosen by the Workers’ Party.”

Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - 2015 (?)
« Reply #16 on: 10/13/2015 06:41 AM »
North Korea displays models of SLBM, Unha 3 and 9  at flower exhibition

http://tinyurl.com/px4gnar

North Korea has displayed a model of a submarine-launched ballistic missile at a flower exhibition to celebrate its key anniversary, Pyongyang's state broadcast showed Tuesday.

Unlike earlier expectations, the North did not showcase the SLBM, which it claimed it successfully fired off in May at its military parade Saturday to mark the 70th anniversary of the founding of the ruling Workers' Party of Korea.

But Pyongyang made the SLBM model public at the exhibition displaying flowers named after the North's founder Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il, the late father of the North's leader Kim Jong-un, according to footage shown by the state-run Korean Central Television.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - 2015 (?)
« Reply #17 on: 01/28/2016 01:00 AM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missile-idUSKCN0V52TZ
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North Korea may be readying long-range missile launch soon

SEOUL

North Korea may be preparing to launch a long-range missile as soon as in a week, Japan's Kyodo news agency reported early on Thursday, citing an unnamed Japanese government official.

The official cited signs of possible preparations for a missile launch based on analysis of satellite imagery of the North's Tongchang-ri missile test site on its west coast.
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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - 2016 (?)
« Reply #18 on: 01/29/2016 11:57 AM »
38 North suggests that launch is "not imminent" (with the usual disclaimers about the limits of gathering information solely from satellite imaging); buildings have been cleared of snow, and equipment has been moved, but launch activity is still low.
However, there may be a static fire test.
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In the December 28 image, the construction of a large rail-mounted environmental shelter at stand was progressing. As of January 25, it appears complete and has been moved up to the engine test stand. The size of this structure is large, measuring approximately 11-meters-wide, 29-meters-long and 11-meters-high—large enough to house in a concealed manner the first stage of a rocket such as the Musudan intermediate range ballistic missile, the Unha space launch vehicle or a new engine of similar size.

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Re: Kwangmyongsong-4 (?) - Unha-? - 2016 (?)
« Reply #19 on: 02/02/2016 02:30 PM »
North Korea 'planning satellite launch'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35476099

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