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Offline coypu76

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SpaceX has released all its photos for public access under a Creative Commons license to a Flicker account
https://www.flickr.com/photos/spacexphotos/

Also discussed in The Atlantic Monthly here:
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/spacex-releases-its-photos-under-creative-commons/388200/

Great stuff for free online!

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #1 on: 03/19/2015 08:47 PM »
Not sure what's new here. They published the photos before. All that has changed is the license to stop people selling the photos or using them in Ebay t-shirts and stuff.


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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #2 on: 03/19/2015 10:06 PM »
One thing that is very new is that now the photos on articles about SpaceX on Wikipedia, in all languages, can be much better than they were.

Wikipedia does not allow the use of copyrighted photos, so photos released to other media sites without a Creative Cmmmons license could not be used to document various SpaceX-related spaceflight articles, even though media sites could use them.  (For example, the grasshopper rocket article on the English Wikipedia has had a very old photo of the original (short) Grasshopper v1.0, taken by Steve Jurvetson and released on Flickr back in 2012 or so, from before it ever flew the first time.  Prior to this, there has been no better image to use.)
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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #3 on: 03/19/2015 10:24 PM »
Sweet.
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Offline Misha Vargas

From Wikipedia's Image Use Policy:

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Licenses which restrict the use of the media to non-profit or educational purposes only (i.e. non-commercial use only), or which are given permission to appear only on Wikipedia, are not free enough for Wikipedia's usages or goals and will be deleted.

A quote from Parker Higgins (apparently of Electronic Frontier Foundation) in The Atlantic:

Quote from: Parker Higgins
Itíd be nice if these photos could appear in Wikipedia, or be built upon without any caveats by artists and entrepreneurs, but itís still a good thing that these are going online under clear terms,

So don't get too excited.
« Last Edit: 03/19/2015 10:50 PM by Misha Vargas »

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #5 on: 03/21/2015 02:35 AM »
From Wikipedia's Image Use Policy:

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Licenses which restrict the use of the media to non-profit or educational purposes only (i.e. non-commercial use only), or which are given permission to appear only on Wikipedia, are not free enough for Wikipedia's usages or goals and will be deleted.

A quote from Parker Higgins (apparently of Electronic Frontier Foundation) in The Atlantic:

Quote from: Parker Higgins
Itíd be nice if these photos could appear in Wikipedia, or be built upon without any caveats by artists and entrepreneurs, but itís still a good thing that these are going online under clear terms,

So don't get too excited.

Yeah, you are right.  I saw a discussion over on Wikipedia, and whatever SpaceX did, it isn't sufficient to satisfy the Wikipedia image police, apparently.  So some folks may have access to more SpaceX photos, but not the readers of Wikipedia.
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #6 on: 03/21/2015 07:22 AM »
As this article from Wired points out sites such as themselves are still not able to use them.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-03/20/spacex-makes-photos-free

Offline Misha Vargas

Elon just tweeted that he's going to fix this.
« Last Edit: 03/21/2015 09:18 AM by Misha Vargas »

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Aaaand it's done. Now only attribution is needed, and the Flickr images can be used on Wikipedia.

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #9 on: 03/21/2015 09:27 AM »
Elon just tweeted that he's going to fix this.

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #10 on: 03/22/2015 03:02 PM »
Am I seeing the photo album correctly, that there are only 105 images available there?

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #11 on: 03/22/2015 06:43 PM »
Awesome!
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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #12 on: 03/22/2015 07:21 PM »
The best license for Wikipedia/WMF use (if one desires a Creative Commons license) that still preserves some rights for SpaceX would be CC-BY-SA (Creative Commons, with attribution, share alike) ... meaning that any downstream use must credit, and must also have the same license terms (can't restrict further, can't open further)

Public Domain is too free.

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #13 on: 03/22/2015 07:32 PM »
Lar:  It appears that SpaceX changed the licensing to CC BY 2.0.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #14 on: 03/22/2015 11:22 PM »
Am I seeing the photo album correctly, that there are only 105 images available there?

Not surprised. They are only going to release what they consider their "best" photos. No point in releasing 10,000 photos some with poor quality or showing damaged parts, rockets blowing up, processes that are secret etc. I am sure they will release many more over time.
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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #15 on: 03/31/2015 12:21 PM »
It seems to me that SpaceX nicely asked that Flickr support Public Domain and CC0: https://blog.flickr.net/en/2015/03/30/flickr-now-offers-public-domain-and-cc0-designations/?linkId=13226047

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Re: SpaceX releases all its photos under Creative Commons
« Reply #17 on: 03/31/2015 07:08 PM »
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/03/flickr-offers-new-public-domain-licensing-in-wake-of-spacex-photo-release/

Looks like Musk is disrupting another industry. :P
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« Last Edit: 03/31/2015 07:08 PM by woods170 »

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