Author Topic: SCRUB: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) ATTEMPT 1 - LAUNCH UPDATES  (Read 63319 times)

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LIVE UPDATE Coverage for Orbital's Antares launch of Cygnus on the ORB-3 (CRS-3) mission to the International Space Station.


Launch Coverage Sponsored by ATK:


This is a live update thread, so all posts need to be updates, or they will be removed. Please use the other threads for non updates.

T-0: 18:45 Local.

Resources:

Orbital GENERAL Forum Section:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=46.0

Orbital (Antares/Cygnus) News Articles:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/orbital/

Main ORB-3/CRS-3 Feature Article - by William Graham:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/10/orbitals-antares-loft-fourth-cygnus-iss/

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L2 Antares/Cygnus Section - Really good section with a lot of documentation, hundreds of photos, video and content resources exclusive to L2:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=54.0
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Forcast for launch time At Wallopes Island, Va. from Weather Underground is;

59 degrees F
Barometric Pressure 30.09 inches steady
Wind from South Southwest at 2 MPH
0% chance of Rain.
My God!  It's full of universes!

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And here's William Graham's expansive launch overview article!
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/10/orbitals-antares-loft-fourth-cygnus-iss/

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NASA TV Launch coverage begins at 5:45 p.m.

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Excellent launch preview article from William, I should add. Best on the net, again.

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24 hour balloon data indicates upper level winds are acceptable for flight today and local weather is near perfect.

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Pre-flight  LIVE

http://www.ustream.tv/search?q=nasa

weather updates perfect as can be

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Coming up on a go/no-go decision on a drive over to Wallops.  Any issues being worked (e.g., L2)?

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new screen  control room


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Coming up on a go/no-go decision on a drive over to Wallops.  Any issues being worked (e.g., L2)?

Hearing all is fine. Antares launches tend to be very public, so I don't think L2 will hear anything unless it's leftfield. Everything else they tend to tweet and such.

L2 is more for the trip to, at, and from the ISS during Orbital ISS missions.

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And here's William Graham's expansive launch overview article!
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/10/orbitals-antares-loft-fourth-cygnus-iss/

good article  ;)

might like to focus on the history being made in the updates

1st Cots contractor to launch 3 times to the ISS
Guess several other records for supplies under COTS.
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looked like the clouds coming in a bit

 
« Last Edit: 10/27/2014 06:58 PM by Prober »
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2 hrs and 15 mins to launch.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #11 on: 10/27/2014 08:01 PM »
2 hrs and 15 mins to launch.

they have had a red team working an issue, however weather is fine.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #12 on: 10/27/2014 08:14 PM »
they mentioned something about terminating helium purge and the red team  This link has the countdown audio http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-tv-wallops
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #13 on: 10/27/2014 08:14 PM »
Looking beautiful on the pad
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #14 on: 10/27/2014 08:20 PM »
http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Oct-2014/0211.html

I just saw that the launch is at 22:45:03 UTC instead of 22:44:00 UTC. So
this is the revised estimation:

CYGNUS ORB-3 estimation2                                 198 X 255 km
1 70000U 14500A   14300.95351852 0.00000000  00000-0  00000+0 0    07
2 70000  51.6452 160.4800 0043469 137.1128   4.9765 16.17430254    04

Here the .kmz file to see the ascent profile, via Orbital:
https://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/MissionUpdates/Orb-3/Files/Orb-3_Viewing.kmz

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #15 on: 10/27/2014 08:21 PM »
countdown clock to resume at 21:28:04
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #16 on: 10/27/2014 08:24 PM »
reason for RED: sailboat in the center of the hazard area
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #17 on: 10/27/2014 08:28 PM »
countdown has resumed
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #18 on: 10/27/2014 08:29 PM »
very thoughful PAO: note to all Ustream observers that wish to leave to watch the launch outside that the stream is about 20 seconds behind
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #19 on: 10/27/2014 08:30 PM »
LO2 fill in progress
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #20 on: 10/27/2014 08:34 PM »
In honor of Deke Slayton mission control has gone retro.

EDIT: And NASATV coverage is starting up.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #21 on: 10/27/2014 08:44 PM »
here we go..
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #22 on: 10/27/2014 08:49 PM »
100% go for weather.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #23 on: 10/27/2014 08:50 PM »
ISS performed a debris avoidance maneuver.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #24 on: 10/27/2014 08:52 PM »
into LO2 fast fill
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #25 on: 10/27/2014 08:52 PM »
Vehicle preparation.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #26 on: 10/27/2014 08:54 PM »
Carrying 2291 kg of cargo. T-52 minutes.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #27 on: 10/27/2014 08:54 PM »
nice sundown shots...
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #28 on: 10/27/2014 08:55 PM »
Launch viewing. Should be spectacular.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #29 on: 10/27/2014 08:55 PM »
Range is currently red due to a boat in the area.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #30 on: 10/27/2014 08:57 PM »
SS Deke Slayton. Mission Control going retro!
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There's always a boat around.
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Hoping the boat will be cleared in time.

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« Reply #33 on: 10/27/2014 09:00 PM »
Hoping the boat will be cleared in time.

They said they'll update when there's more info.

Also, currently 100% favorable conditions for the launch.
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It's the only issue being worked.

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Polling is go for launch at this stage.

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« Reply #36 on: 10/27/2014 09:01 PM »
there we go....
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #37 on: 10/27/2014 09:01 PM »
Interview with Carl Walz. Sailboat is in the way.

Completed poll. Go for launch.
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« Reply #38 on: 10/27/2014 09:03 PM »
Talking about Deke.
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« Reply #39 on: 10/27/2014 09:04 PM »
luving the HD
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« Reply #40 on: 10/27/2014 09:05 PM »
30 October 1984 commercial space act signed, almost 30 years ago.

About T-40 minutes.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #41 on: 10/27/2014 09:07 PM »
Launch window opens at 6:45, does anyone know what time it closes?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #42 on: 10/27/2014 09:08 PM »
Interview with Kurt Eberly. Thankyou to range.
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« Reply #43 on: 10/27/2014 09:08 PM »
Around 0245 GMT, so 2245 Eastern.

Edit: This was the window end last I checked, apparently it's actually only 10 minutes.  My info was wrong.  >:(
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« Reply #44 on: 10/27/2014 09:08 PM »
Range Control Center.
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« Reply #45 on: 10/27/2014 09:10 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: 10/27/2014 09:11 PM »
T-35 Minutes.
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« Reply #47 on: 10/27/2014 09:11 PM »
chilldown
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« Reply #48 on: 10/27/2014 09:12 PM »
Started main engine chilldown.
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« Reply #49 on: 10/27/2014 09:13 PM »
some ice buildup now...
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« Reply #50 on: 10/27/2014 09:14 PM »
10 minute window with a one minute cutout to avoid ISS (I think).
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« Reply #51 on: 10/27/2014 09:14 PM »
Just fabulous.
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« Reply #52 on: 10/27/2014 09:16 PM »
Interview with Dr. Liz Warren talking about science payloads.

T-30 minutes.
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« Reply #53 on: 10/27/2014 09:17 PM »
Talking about Drain Brain experiment.
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« Reply #54 on: 10/27/2014 09:18 PM »
Talking about sixth Student experiment program with 18 experiments.
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« Reply #55 on: 10/27/2014 09:19 PM »
Just beautiful

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #56 on: 10/27/2014 09:21 PM »
Launch enable.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #57 on: 10/27/2014 09:22 PM »
Still RED. Pressing into launch enables
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #58 on: 10/27/2014 09:22 PM »
ISS control room.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #59 on: 10/27/2014 09:23 PM »
poll for final FTS
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #60 on: 10/27/2014 09:23 PM »
9.27 waived.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #61 on: 10/27/2014 09:24 PM »
in full dusk...
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #62 on: 10/27/2014 09:25 PM »
T-20 minutes.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #63 on: 10/27/2014 09:27 PM »
FTS A & FTS B to internal power
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #64 on: 10/27/2014 09:28 PM »
T-18 minutes. FTS on internal power.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #65 on: 10/27/2014 09:28 PM »
upper level winds go
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #66 on: 10/27/2014 09:29 PM »
a different angle
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #67 on: 10/27/2014 09:30 PM »
T-15
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #68 on: 10/27/2014 09:30 PM »
go to transfer Cygnus to internal power
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #69 on: 10/27/2014 09:31 PM »
T-15 minutes. Transferring Cygnus to internal power.
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ISS crew in sleep period, but as per usual they are up and watching! ;D

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #71 on: 10/27/2014 09:31 PM »
great venting shot
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #72 on: 10/27/2014 09:31 PM »
unplanned clock hold at T-12min (22:33:04 UTC) due to sailboat in range
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #73 on: 10/27/2014 09:32 PM »
Astronauts staying up to watch launch.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #74 on: 10/27/2014 09:32 PM »
Cygnus on internal power & nominal
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Looking to hold at T-12 mins. Due to that boat!

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Unplanned HOLD.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #77 on: 10/27/2014 09:33 PM »
IN the unplanned hold
holding at T-12 min
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Window is 10 minutes. Going to be tight.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #79 on: 10/27/2014 09:34 PM »
Holding at T-12 minutes due to boat on the range.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #80 on: 10/27/2014 09:34 PM »
fantastish
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Hopefully not as dramatic as STS-133's hold with two seconds remaining in the window!

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #82 on: 10/27/2014 09:35 PM »
Window expires at 5:55:04 pm.
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Eight minutes remaining in the window.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #84 on: 10/27/2014 09:35 PM »
Looking to hold at T-12 mins. Due to that boat!
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #85 on: 10/27/2014 09:36 PM »
Orbital Sciences control room. Deke is at the back. :-)
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Range is RED due to the boat (as you can assume).

22:55:04 ZULU for the attempt if they can do it.

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Polling at 22:45 ZULU to come out of the hold if they can do it.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #88 on: 10/27/2014 09:38 PM »
Where is the USS Seawolf when you need it :)
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #89 on: 10/27/2014 09:38 PM »
22:41:34 count to be resumed.
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Single shot at the end of the window. If they can get back into the count, they can't have any more holds or it's a scrub.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #91 on: 10/27/2014 09:40 PM »
Looking to hold at T-12 mins. Due to that boat!
Sink the boat!



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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #92 on: 10/27/2014 09:40 PM »
2 minutes to resuming count.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #93 on: 10/27/2014 09:40 PM »
enjoying this way too much 8)
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« Reply #94 on: 10/27/2014 09:41 PM »
1 minute to start of count.
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Polling to proceed!

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RED Range, but proceeding!

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #97 on: 10/27/2014 09:42 PM »
into polling
(RSO is red but proceeding)
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #98 on: 10/27/2014 09:42 PM »
Poll to proceed resuming of count.
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"If we're ready, we'll go". Going to the wire!

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Count resuming in 20 seconds.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #101 on: 10/27/2014 09:43 PM »
RSO is still red, but proceeding.
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« Reply #102 on: 10/27/2014 09:43 PM »
count has started!
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TEL armed for retract.

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« Reply #104 on: 10/27/2014 09:44 PM »
T-12 minutes and counting.
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« Reply #105 on: 10/27/2014 09:44 PM »
TEL armed for rapid retract in work
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TEL is not yet armed. In work.

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« Reply #107 on: 10/27/2014 09:44 PM »
They are either having comm issues on the net or folks aren't paying attention.  Lots of second requests for responses
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« Reply #108 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
RSO: no change in status
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« Reply #109 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
If they launch the ISS will be directly above the ascending vehicle, thanks to the delay.

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RSO still RED.

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« Reply #111 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
stop clock

scrub
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SCRUB.

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« Reply #113 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
T-11 minutes.
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« Reply #114 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
abort due the friggin boat
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Damn unlucky. They gave that all the time they could. STUPID boat.

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« Reply #116 on: 10/27/2014 09:45 PM »
The boat sunk the launch :-(


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« Reply #117 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
Where is the Coast Guard ?  >:(

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« Reply #118 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

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« Reply #119 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
Owner of that boat needs to get a very large bill for a wasted launch attempt
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« Reply #120 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
Aborting launch due to boat in range area.
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« Reply #121 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
I hope the captain of that boat is severely penalized.

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« Reply #122 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 PM »
into abort safing
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« Reply #123 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

I'd set the fine at the sum total of the daily salary of everyone who's time was just wasted.

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« Reply #124 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

I suspect that would be a seven figure bill, but it won't happen of course.

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« Reply #125 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 PM »
I would be satisfied if he was publicly humiliated in the local newspapers.

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« Reply #126 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?
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« Reply #127 on: 10/27/2014 09:48 PM »
Safing vehicle.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #128 on: 10/27/2014 09:48 PM »
Well, with the launch scrubbed, off to vote Mayor Rob Ford and his brother out of office in Toronto's municipal elections. Hope the launch scrub wasn't an omen.  ;)

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« Reply #129 on: 10/27/2014 09:49 PM »
 UGHH COME ON NOT FAIR

Really wish the boat owner gets a couple hours community service

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« Reply #130 on: 10/27/2014 09:49 PM »
Next attempt at 5:19 pm tomorrow.
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« Reply #131 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #132 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 PM »
That boat needs to get a ticket
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« Reply #133 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 PM »
Next attempt at 5:19 pm tomorrow.

That's probably 5:19 Central, or 6:19 EDT (2219 UTC)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #134 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 PM »
FTS to external power.
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« Reply #135 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 PM »
Unbelievable!

Anyone know if they had any coast guard ships or helicopters available to approach the boat and tell them to leave the area?

I recall they always did this for Cape launches whenever a boat was in the range.

For Wallops, can they only try to contact the boat by radio and wait and hope it responds?

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« Reply #136 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 PM »
Boat turns out to be a large barge with a "SpaceX" logo painted on it ;)

Better luck tomorrow.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #137 on: 10/27/2014 09:52 PM »
Hydraulics are discharging. Cygnus transferring to external power.
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I would be satisfied if he was publicly humiliated in the local newspapers.

Over here in England, we used to put people in stocks and throw rotten fruit at them for public humiliation.

Just saying ;)

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« Reply #139 on: 10/27/2014 09:53 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

So, the skipper deserves a spent booster on his head... or at least a fairing . 8)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #140 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 PM »
Rob Navias was our commentator today. Talking about efforts to try to contact boat and get them out.
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« Reply #141 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 PM »
All they can do is "try to make contact with the boat"? Lame.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #142 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 PM »
Bloody boat!

If Antares launches tomorrow will the Sunday capture still hold?
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« Reply #143 on: 10/27/2014 09:55 PM »
The Chinese and Russians have to chuckle about letting a moron in a boat getting hit by rocket stages stop a launch.  They drop rocket stuff on land and peoples houses all the time...
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Just want to thank everyone who chipped in with coverage. Especially Steven, Prober and Robert.

Really, really makes my life easier as I'm juggling everything from the launch article to the server hamsters :)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #145 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 PM »
Nice shot of the Moon next to Antares.

NASA TV starts at 4:30 pm tomorrow I believe.
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« Reply #146 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 PM »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

I honestly don't understand this. What is to prevent a fringe protest organization from indefinitely postponing a launch by occupying the range?
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« Reply #147 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 PM »
I would have paid money to see the look on the boat skipper's face if they had launched ....bet that would have soiled his pants...

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« Reply #148 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 PM »
All they can do is "try to make contact with the boat"? Lame.

May I propose an additional course of action? Turning off the radars. No boat detected - no problem...

I'm only 80% joking.

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« Reply #149 on: 10/27/2014 09:57 PM »
Going into detanking.
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You can HEAR Antares saying what she thinks of that boat with the audible sighing (its her pressurization, but you can imagine!)

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« Reply #151 on: 10/27/2014 09:58 PM »
They seriously need to improve their responsiveness on the launch net.  RSO didn't respond promptly and NASA was asked for an update before  RSO gave a really useless call.
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« Reply #152 on: 10/27/2014 09:58 PM »
We just had a bright ISS pass over NYC.  Too bad it was alone.

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« Reply #153 on: 10/27/2014 09:59 PM »
Step alpha 44 complete.

Completed all steps in abort safing except for three.
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« Reply #154 on: 10/27/2014 10:00 PM »
someone please turn the cam on the water and embarrass them !
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« Reply #155 on: 10/27/2014 10:01 PM »
Spacecraft safed and powering down.
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« Reply #156 on: 10/27/2014 10:01 PM »
I would have paid money to see the look on the boat skipper's face if they had launched ....bet that would have soiled his pants...

I doubt he or she would have noticed anything, unless the launch went terribly wrong. The ocean is big, and it is very unlikely that the small boat would have been hit by the falling first stage. (as much as we might wish it) ;)

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« Reply #157 on: 10/27/2014 10:02 PM »
At some point in the future I would expect that any boats in breach of the Notice to Mariners would simply be ignored, and their risks would have no effect on launches, only on their own insurance.

Really, if it doesn't endanger the launch and proper notice has been given, it's up to the boat owners to decide whether they want to take the risk of having some metal land on their boat from a great height.
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« Reply #158 on: 10/27/2014 10:02 PM »
Love this shot with the Moon.

Re-establishing road-blocks.
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He'd probably sue if something fell on his head.

"Have you had an accident whilst out boating? Did a fairing land on your head? Call 555-223-4323 and our teams of lawyers will tell you how stupid you were not to get out of the Range".
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« Reply #160 on: 10/27/2014 10:05 PM »
Boat was in South East of range.

Discussion of launch at 5:22 pm.
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Praise for the team. Sailboat guy getting a slap down on the loop.

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« Reply #162 on: 10/27/2014 10:07 PM »
He'd probably sue if something fell on his head.

"Have you had an accident whilst out boating? Did a fairing land on your head? Call 555-223-4323 and our teams of lawyers will tell you how stupid you were not to get out of the Range".

Wong phone number.  It should be 555-386-2277.  (Just think of Red from "That 70's Show" if you ever watched it.)
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« Reply #163 on: 10/27/2014 10:07 PM »
Culbertson is unhappy about the sailboat "captain" "operator".  :) Unfortunately he can't say what he really feels, I'm sure.
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seems to me that this would cover it. 

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=1&SID=0d26f88520f1581d3ef27102bd49ac4e&ty=HTML&h=L&r=SECTION&n=se33.3.334_1130


Title 33 → Chapter II → Part 334 → §334.130
Atlantic Ocean off Wallops Island and Chincoteague Inlet, Va.; danger zone.

(a) The area. An area immediately behind and directly offshore from Wallops Island defined by lines drawn as follows: Beginning at latitude 37°53′00″ N, longitude 75°29′48″ W; thence to latitude 37°53′03″ N, longitude 74°50′52″ W; thence to latitude 37°38′28″ N, longitude 74°51′48″ W; thence to latitude 37°22′00″ N, longitude 75°09′35″ W; thence to latitude 37°19′11″ N, longitude 75°30′00″ W; thence to latitude 37°47′57″ N, longitude 75°32′19″ W; and thence to latitude 37°53′00″ N, longitude 75°29′48″ W.

(b) The regulations. (1) Persons and vessels shall only be prohibited from entering the area when launch operations are being conducted.


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« Reply #165 on: 10/27/2014 10:08 PM »
Frank Culbertson just had a word or two about the "captain" of the sailboat.  ;D

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« Reply #166 on: 10/27/2014 10:08 PM »
Orbital. Did a fantastic job. Sail boat operator, lost or not responding. Could not get out in time. Get some rest. Good shot for tomorrow weather wise. This is the way spaceflight is. We will have a successful launch. Thanks again for the hard work.

22:22:38 UTC (6:22:38 pm EDT) launch time tomorrow.
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HA:   "Sailboat Captain, no Sailboat operator; captain implies a sense of responsibility" 
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18:22 Eastern for the T-0 tomorrow.

It was Frank C with the slapdown of the sailor. Well done sir!
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« Reply #169 on: 10/27/2014 10:15 PM »
I really hope their is a sternly worded addition to the article about idiotic ship Captains Operators in the works.
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Ok, so we'll try again tomorrow. Second attempt live thread will be set up tomorrow.

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« Reply #171 on: 10/27/2014 10:15 PM »
ISS mission control. Launch window is 10 minutes. NASA TV coverage starts at 5:30 pm EDT.
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Do we know if the arrival at ISS of Cygnus is still on November 2 if it launches tomorrow?

(oh and I'm the probably the only one who need to thank that sailboat captain - I grossly overslept and woke up at what should have been T+8 minutes!  ;))
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« Reply #173 on: 10/27/2014 10:19 PM »
Launch coverage ending, but still have video of Antares.
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« Reply #174 on: 10/27/2014 10:20 PM »
Do we know if the arrival at ISS of Cygnus is still on November 2 if it launches tomorrow?

(oh and I'm the probably the only one who need to thank that sailboat captain - I grossly overslept and woke up at what should have been T+8 minutes!  ;) )

Not the only one.  I lost track of time and was also late.  Better luck to us tomorrow.
Isn't the launch at 18:22 / 6:22 PM Eastern tomorrow?
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Do we know if the arrival at ISS of Cygnus is still on November 2 if it launches tomorrow?

(oh and I'm the probably the only one who need to thank that sailboat captain - I grossly overslept and woke up at what should have been T+8 minutes!  ;) )

Not the only one.  I lost track of time and was also late.  Better luck to us tomorrow.
Isn't the launch at 18:22 / 6:22 PM Eastern tomorrow?

Yes, window opens at 6:22:38 pm Eastern. Progress M-25M also heading to the ISS <9 hours later (though it will actually arrive first). Then 50th Atlas V w/ GPS IIF-8 another 8 hours after that.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #177 on: 10/27/2014 10:32 PM »
On the plus side. If the launch had not been scrubbed, I would not have just gone outside to rant at the sky and would have missed the HUGE meteor that just streaked by. ;D
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Flight Safety Plan for Wallops for those asking about fines and what not: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/ANTARES-ORB3-NOTMARREVA.pdf

States clearly arrests and fines are permissible so I'm fairly certain at the least, our boater friend probably has some company out there right about now.

ETA: Notice is good through Oct. 31.
« Last Edit: 10/27/2014 10:33 PM by smith5se »
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #179 on: 10/27/2014 10:34 PM »
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/ANTARES-ORB3-NOTMARREVA.pdf

"The Army Corp of Engineers Danger Zone will be in effect for all launch attempts per 33CFR
(Code of Federal Regulations) Part 334. Fines and arrest authority are permissible by U.S. Coast
Guard and Virginia Marine Police."

There are two zones, one local and one that seems to be 900 nmi or more offshore, which would be in international waters not subject to U.S. laws.  Do we know which zone had the "boat"?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #180 on: 10/27/2014 10:43 PM »
At some point in the future I would expect that any boats in breach of the Notice to Mariners would simply be ignored, and their risks would have no effect on launches, only on their own insurance.

Really, if it doesn't endanger the launch and proper notice has been given, it's up to the boat owners to decide whether they want to take the risk of having some metal land on their boat from a great height.
It seems to me that they could still meet the safety numbers with a sailboat in the range.  The limit for commercial launches appears to be less than 0.00003 expected deaths per launch. 
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/list/AC%20431.35-1/$FILE/AC431.35-1.pdf

Unless the sailboat is directly under the expected booster impact point, (or very close to the shore) that should be easy to meet. (back of the envelope - booster would need to go off course (10%), then RSO blows it up, possible area for debris to land at least 10km by 10km, sailboat is 10m by 10m, sailboat has a max of 10 people).

Of course, doing this calculation to the satisfaction of the FAA in real time is not practical.  But if they did it ex post facto, I bet the safety requirement would have been met.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #181 on: 10/27/2014 10:59 PM »
Recording of the scrub (part 1 of 2, starts at 2hr20m):
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/54578694

http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv/videos

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #182 on: 10/27/2014 11:11 PM »
At some point in the future I would expect that any boats in breach of the Notice to Mariners would simply be ignored, and their risks would have no effect on launches, only on their own insurance.

Really, if it doesn't endanger the launch and proper notice has been given, it's up to the boat owners to decide whether they want to take the risk of having some metal land on their boat from a great height.
It seems to me that they could still meet the safety numbers with a sailboat in the range.  The limit for commercial launches appears to be less than 0.00003 expected deaths per launch. 
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/list/AC%20431.35-1/$FILE/AC431.35-1.pdf

Unless the sailboat is directly under the expected booster impact point, (or very close to the shore) that should be easy to meet. (back of the envelope - booster would need to go off course (10%), then RSO blows it up, possible area for debris to land at least 10km by 10km, sailboat is 10m by 10m, sailboat has a max of 10 people).

Of course, doing this calculation to the satisfaction of the FAA in real time is not practical.  But if they did it ex post facto, I bet the safety requirement would have been met.

They could also just drop the stage on the sailboat and launch an additional 300,000 rockets to balance it out.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #183 on: 10/27/2014 11:25 PM »
We just had a bright ISS pass over NYC.  Too bad it was alone.
That was the consolation prize for those of us who all gathered in a vineyard in Southern NJ.  I pointed out ISS and at least that made some of the kids ooh and ahh.  I explained that bright dot was where the spacecraft was supposed to go. Of course I didn't think to slew my camera to record the pass... Doh!

The upside is that in a very economically depressed and sparsely populated area, there were three families on the side of the road waiting to watch a rocket launch a couple hundred miles away.  Average Joes enjoying spaceflight... Made me feel like there is still a little hope.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #184 on: 10/27/2014 11:32 PM »
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/ANTARES-ORB3-NOTMARREVA.pdf

"The Army Corp of Engineers Danger Zone will be in effect for all launch attempts per 33CFR
(Code of Federal Regulations) Part 334. Fines and arrest authority are permissible by U.S. Coast
Guard and Virginia Marine Police."

There are two zones, one local and one that seems to be 900 nmi or more offshore, which would be in international waters not subject to U.S. laws.  Do we know which zone had the "boat"?

 - Ed Kyle

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #185 on: 10/28/2014 12:02 AM »
95% chance of GO for weather tomorrow.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #186 on: 10/28/2014 12:16 AM »
95% chance of GO for weather tomorrow.

Yeah, but the important number I want to know is: what's the chance of boats in the area tomorrow?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #187 on: 10/28/2014 12:42 AM »
I went out to see them launch it in Hampton. I did see the ISS pass. It's the brighter blob in this picture I took with a potato:
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #188 on: 10/28/2014 02:14 AM »
I wonder at what point it becomes economically advantageous to forcibly evacuate and then sink the offending vessel. The operation could probably be carried out with a single helicopter. The cost of conducting the operation and replacing the vessel might be less than the cost of the scrub....
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #189 on: 10/28/2014 02:21 AM »
Just evacuate, don't need to sink it. Anyway, this is just one more reason we need to go toward high-launch-rate reusable rockets that don't have pieces falling off into the ocean or onto the steppe.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #190 on: 10/28/2014 03:56 AM »
Just evacuate, don't need to sink it. Anyway, this is just one more reason we need to go toward high-launch-rate reusable rockets that don't have pieces falling off into the ocean or onto the steppe.

That doesn't still mean there won't be a cleared area for launches.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #191 on: 10/28/2014 06:17 AM »

October 27, 2014

Launch of Third Orbital Sciences Mission to Space Station Rescheduled; NASA TV Coverage Reset

The third Orbital Sciences cargo mission to the International Space Station under NASA's Commercial Resupply Services contract is scheduled to launch at 6:22 p.m. EDT Tuesday, Oct. 28, from Pad 0A of the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport at NASA’s Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia.

NASA Television coverage of Tuesday's launch will begin at 5:30 p.m. A post-launch news conference will follow at approximately 8 p.m.

A Monday launch attempt was scrubbed because of a boat down range in the trajectory Orbital’s Antares rocket would have flown had it lifted off.

A Tuesday launch will result in the Cygnus spacecraft arriving at the space station early Sunday, Nov. 2. NASA TV coverage of rendezvous and berthing will begin at 3:30 a.m. with grapple at approximately 4:58 a.m.

For the latest information on news conferences and coverage times, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ntvnews

For more information about Orbital’s mission, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/orbital

For more information about the International Space Station, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/station

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #192 on: 10/28/2014 10:25 AM »
Concerning the cubesats on this launch:

i know currently of 29 cubesats carried inside Orb-3:

26 x Flock-1d (3U)
Arkyd-3 (3U)
RACE (3U)
GOMX-2 (2U)

Has anyone info, if there are more?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #193 on: 10/28/2014 11:48 AM »
I like how everyone picked up ISS last night, but missed Tiangong 1. Shortly after the scrub I enjoyed watching both stations at the same time sail through the evening sky. 
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #194 on: 10/28/2014 01:11 PM »
It was a beautiful night.

Now I get to drive 7 hours again!

Last image is the ISS passing over the scrubbed rocket.
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« Reply #195 on: 10/28/2014 01:41 PM »
It was a beautiful night.

Now I get to drive 7 hours again!

Last image is the ISS passing over the scrubbed rocket.

Great pictures! Especially the ISS one.  Where were you set up to watch from?

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Sorry for the delay. Was stuck in work, but here's attempt 2's thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=35939.0

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