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Here we go folks!

Now converted to discussion, party thread, based on the excitement. Link to the actual event update thread shortly.

***MEDIA ADVISORY***

SpaceX CEO & Chief Designer Elon Musk to Unveil Dragon V2 Spacecraft

WHO:                    Elon Musk, CEO & Chief Designer, SpaceX

WHAT:                  Mr. Musk will introduce SpaceXís new Dragon V2 spacecraft, a next generation spacecraft designed to carry astronauts into space.

WHERE:                SpaceX, 1 Rocket Road, Hawthorne, CA, 90250.

WHEN:                 Thursday, May 29. Check in begins at 6:00 p.m. PT; event begins at 7:00 p.m. PT.

Due to International Trade and Arms Regulations, this event is open to U.S. Citizens and Green Card holders only.  (Funny, as the title of the e-mail was "You're invited!" Boooooo! Not that I can afford the flight ;D)

For those who cannot attend in person, this event will also be webcast LIVE at www.spacex.com/webcast.

While I'm here. Here's our collection of recent Dragon articles:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/tag/dragon/

Remember, we have lots of Dragon threads on here. Best to keep this one as clear as possible until the event.
« Last Edit: 05/29/2014 04:50 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #1 on: 05/27/2014 10:26 PM »
Due to International Trade and Arms Regulations, this event is open to U.S. Citizens and Green Card holders only.  (Funny, as the title of the e-mail was "You're invited!" Boooooo! Not that I can afford the flight ;D)

For those who cannot attend in person, this event will also be webcast LIVE at www.spacex.com/webcast.

Is there a reason why, given that the event will be webcast (presumably worldwide), physical attendance is limited to US citizens and Green Card holders? This does not make a lot of sense to me.

I can only assume that some information will be restricted to the attendants, and will not be webcast.

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #2 on: 05/27/2014 10:30 PM »
Due to International Trade and Arms Regulations, this event is open to U.S. Citizens and Green Card holders only.  (Funny, as the title of the e-mail was "You're invited!" Boooooo! Not that I can afford the flight ;D)

For those who cannot attend in person, this event will also be webcast LIVE at www.spacex.com/webcast.

Is there a reason why, given that the event will be webcast (presumably worldwide), physical attendance is limited to US citizens and Green Card holders? This does not make a lot of sense to me.

I can only assume that some information will be restricted to the attendants, and will not be webcast.

Probably facility restrictions since it is at the main Hawthorne site, which as I understand you pretty much have to be a US citizen or green card holder to enter.

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Probably facility restrictions since it is at the main Hawthorne site, which as I understand you pretty much have to be a US citizen or green card holder to enter.

Don't think so. They've invited me over knowing I'm English and I know there's some non US people been toured around the place. Some of them are members here.

Anyway, their call. It's webcast, that's all I care about! :)

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #4 on: 05/27/2014 10:37 PM »
Any idea what the circular encoding around the dragon logo repesents?

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #5 on: 05/27/2014 10:42 PM »
Here we go folks!

***MEDIA ADVISORY***

SpaceX CEO & Chief Designer Elon Musk to Unveil Dragon V2 Spacecraft

WHO:                    Elon Musk, CEO & Chief Designer, SpaceX

WHAT:                  Mr. Musk will introduce SpaceXís new Dragon V2 spacecraft, a next generation spacecraft designed to carry astronauts into space.

WHERE:                SpaceX, 1 Rocket Road, Hawthorne, CA, 90250.

WHEN:                 Thursday, May 29. Check in begins at 6:00 p.m. PT; event begins at 7:00 p.m. PT.



Can you imagine another government contractor doing this?

I suspect Elon Musk is going to do this Tesla style like he did with the Model X reveal.

Watch this video if you want an idea of how his crew does things when they put on a show.

« Last Edit: 05/27/2014 10:43 PM by RocketGoBoom »

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Maybe the code around the logo is Morse code? Not sure, and I'm afraid I don't know Morse code. Anyway I'll be tuned in!
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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Yawn.<< That'll be me on the following morning, since this is a 3AM start for us Brits.

No effect on Chris, of course, since he never sleeps anyway.

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #8 on: 05/27/2014 11:41 PM »
Can you imagine another government contractor doing this?

I suspect Elon Musk is going to do this Tesla style like he did with the Model X reveal.

Since Elon Musk's background is from Silicon Valley style business (PayPal), that kind of showmanship is expected.

Maybe he will emulate Tony Stark from the Iron Man movies and they'll have showgirls doing a dance number.  :)

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #9 on: 05/27/2014 11:43 PM »

Probably facility restrictions since it is at the main Hawthorne site, which as I understand you pretty much have to be a US citizen or green card holder to enter.

Don't think so. They've invited me over knowing I'm English and I know there's some non US people been toured around the place. Some of them are members here.

Anyway, their call. It's webcast, that's all I care about! :)

its not a news conference as that might start in the morning.

Thursday, May 29. Check in begins at 6:00 p.m. PT; event begins at 7:00 p.m. PT.   

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #10 on: 05/27/2014 11:48 PM »
Maybe the code around the logo is Morse code? Not sure, and I'm afraid I don't know Morse code. Anyway I'll be tuned in!

Unfortunately not. Not a consistent set of dots and dashes, although a few could be Morse letters. I'm thinking a type of bar code used by a robotic system to identify a tool or object to pick up, and it's orientation. Or it could be somebody's idea of a cool design.

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #11 on: 05/28/2014 12:00 AM »
prediction : This thread will be 20 pages long with about -40 decibel signal to noise ratio before the actual event starts. You can do it !
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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #12 on: 05/28/2014 12:08 AM »
Could the rings around the Dragon logo be a stylised representation of IDSS? Or perhaps a top down view of Dragon 2.
« Last Edit: 05/28/2014 12:15 AM by nacnud »

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #13 on: 05/28/2014 12:22 AM »
For what it is worth, the ratio of the diameter of the largest circle to the smallest circle is almost exactly the square root of 2.

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #14 on: 05/28/2014 12:43 AM »
Is there a reason why, given that the event will be webcast (presumably worldwide), physical attendance is limited to US citizens and Green Card holders? This does not make a lot of sense to me.

You can control where the cameras are pointed, but not the attendees' eyeballs. And if a foreign person's eyeballs land on unclassified technical data subject to ITAR, it's considered an "export" under the law.

ITAR actually stands for International Traffic in Arms Regulations.
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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #15 on: 05/28/2014 12:50 AM »
Any idea what the circular encoding around the dragon logo repesents?
Could it have to do with this?

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #16 on: 05/28/2014 01:00 AM »
Can you imagine another government contractor doing this?

I suspect Elon Musk is going to do this Tesla style like he did with the Model X reveal.

Since Elon Musk's background is from Silicon Valley style business (PayPal), that kind of showmanship is expected.

Maybe he will emulate Tony Stark from the Iron Man movies and they'll have showgirls doing a dance number.  :)
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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #17 on: 05/28/2014 04:19 AM »
Due to International Trade and Arms Regulations, this event is open to U.S. Citizens and Green Card holders only.  (Funny, as the title of the e-mail was "You're invited!" Boooooo! Not that I can afford the flight ;D)

For those who cannot attend in person, this event will also be webcast LIVE at www.spacex.com/webcast.

Is there a reason why, given that the event will be webcast (presumably worldwide), physical attendance is limited to US citizens and Green Card holders? This does not make a lot of sense to me.

I can only assume that some information will be restricted to the attendants, and will not be webcast.

While SpaceX does give tours to non-US citizens, each individual has to have a background check and other security checks.  This requires advance notice of those attending.  Technically, I don't believe any of the allowed tour areas expose any information that falls under ITAR.  The Dragon unveiling will not be ITAR.  However, freely allowing non-US citizens into your facility filled with ITAR information sounds like a recipe for criminal ITAR violations.

Honestly I don't think SpaceX cares one bit.  They've gone out of their way to get special clearances to hire some non-citizen employees.  But the federal government and their ITAR laws... professors have gone to jail over them.
« Last Edit: 05/28/2014 04:20 AM by simmy2109 »

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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #18 on: 05/28/2014 04:49 AM »
Confirmed in my email: Livestream will carry the Dragon V2 unveil.

Link....

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Dragon V2 Unveil

Thursday, May 29th, 2014 at 10:00 PM EDT on spacex

On Thursday, May 29, 2014, SpaceX will reveal Dragon V2 - SpaceX's next generation spacecraft designed to carry astronauts to space. The Unveil will be webcast LIVE beginning at 7:00 p.m. PT.
« Last Edit: 05/28/2014 04:52 AM by docmordrid »
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Re: SpaceX: Dragon V2 Unveil - Discussion/Party Thread.
« Reply #19 on: 05/28/2014 07:59 AM »
WHEN:                 Thursday, May 29. Check in begins at 6:00 p.m. PT; event begins at 7:00 p.m. PT.

Damn, another late night! Or very early morning - 2100 PT is 0300 BST, if my googling is correct.

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